Just read the thing it's completely demented at the crazy conspiracy lady is treated as equally moral and deserving of respect as the guy who you know lives in reality.
What is Being Put in the Water at News Centers: AP Runs an Utterly Baffling Cutesy Both Sides/Can We Come Together Piece About The US Election.
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Just read the thing it's completely demented at the crazy conspiracy lady is treated as equally moral and deserving of respect as the guy who you know lives in reality.
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I've read so many of this.... and this one is the most demented of them all....
She should shut the fuck up and everyone else should stop talking to her anyway
I SOLVED YOUR BULLSHIT CONUNDRUM
I SOLVED YOUR BULLSHIT CONUNDRUM
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He believed in reality, she was hoping for a violent military coup.... tee hee but they're friends so cute.
Probably would write a Meet in the Middle article after Andy DuFresne got out of the two month hole at Shawshank.
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I'm starting to question what the people who write this shit believe themselves at this point.
Even when I was trying not to be bias in my college journalism days, facts had a place.
Even when I was trying not to be bias in my college journalism days, facts had a place.
One says lizard men control our water supply, one says the Earth revolves around the sun, how can they possibly get along?
The worst thing is that so many reputable journalists absolutely refuse to see how this sort of "reporting" leads to a normalizing of what had been the lunatic fringe but is now becoming the lunatic majority on the right. The people who wrote this need to show that she's wrong, that this isn't a differing of opinions, that she is actively being brainwashed, but all they care about is depicting the "two realities" of American life.
It's depressing to see people who call out stories like this, such as Eric Boehlert, Soledad O'Brien and Parker Molloy, get so much pushback from the reporters they criticize. People died because of these delusions, it isn't something to just giggle over and set aside when things get too heated among friends.
The worst thing is that so many reputable journalists absolutely refuse to see how this sort of "reporting" leads to a normalizing of what had been the lunatic fringe but is now becoming the lunatic majority on the right. The people who wrote this need to show that she's wrong, that this isn't a differing of opinions, that she is actively being brainwashed, but all they care about is depicting the "two realities" of American life.
It's depressing to see people who call out stories like this, such as Eric Boehlert, Soledad O'Brien and Parker Molloy, get so much pushback from the reporters they criticize. People died because of these delusions, it isn't something to just giggle over and set aside when things get too heated among friends.
I don't know US politics is so polarized. Half of the damn country has shitty views and that's why it's shown with the same importance. This is article is specifically about the political divide so of course it's going to show both sides. I honestly believe that this a real problem that the US faces that one side doesn't believe in basic facts. How do you suggest we discuss the political divide without highlighting what "the other side" thinks. If your idea is to constantly shit on the other side, you aren't seriously trying to resolve the issue.
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This is basically presented as a woman believes in crazy shit that's dangerous but that's ok because she believes it and just because she wanted a military coup to violently overthrow Joe Biden doesn't mean you can't be friends with her... just different opinions bro.
He believes the world is flat. She believes the Earth is (approximately) an oblate spheroid. Surely the only sane solution is to find some common ground and meet in the middle - maybe say that the earth is a 3D disc - and then everyone can be happy. Meanwhile, she's racking up some great new ideas about turtles that we can compromise on (maybe there's a large but finite number of them...)
So do you think that AP didn't do enough to highlight the Capitol Riot and other crazy shit? Why are you focussing one specific article which is specifically about political divide? This article is about highlighting the divide, so of course it's going to focus on that.
This liberal says 2+2=4. This conservative says they feel 2+2=6. Can't we just come together and say 2+2=5 because reporting basic facts offends a third of the US population and will cause them to give our corporate friends less money (and maybe destroy democracy but we're not as concerned about that)? I'll take that Pulitzer now, thanks.
Great minds and such...
I was really hoping that the days of "Lets report the News like its a tv show" was gone but the moment Biden was inagurated in, and you didnt have Trump screaming at journalist anymore it went right back to "Here's one side, here's the other who can tell whats true"
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Its literally your job to tell the truth.
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This article literally presents reality and batshit crazy as having equal value... and talk about it in a very meet cute aww look how two people can still be friends.
It's literally toxic optimism
The article should be
This person believes in reality, this other person doesn't and not matter how nice reality is to fiction, fiction refuses to accept reality
The end of this article is that both of them are just agreeing to respect each other's pov and stay friends... It's worthless, she's no closer to believing in reality than she ever was.. and now there's a lovely AP article that presents her as an aww shucks lady with different opinions, and puts her on equal standing as the guy who believes in reality.
Because by treating it as just another viewpoint, they're normalizing support for that violent rhetoric and the actions it led to. They believe in something dangerous and demonstrably wrong. It shouldn't be presented as just a difference of opinion.
Because like all the profiles on Trump supporters before and after the 2016 election, and the push for "economic anxiety" narrative that went along with it, this sort of garbage is another way to normalize these nutjobs.
We've already seen the result of this. The attempted coup wasn't even a month ago for fuck's sake. The media's ought to know, they covered it, they were very angry and firm about the terrorists and Trump's culpability.
But it took only a couple of weeks, hell a couple of days for some of them (Dana Bash talking about Trump's presidential tone anyone? lmao), to go back to this maddening bullshit.
Look, it's not just this article. It's stuff like suddenly caring about the deficit again. Pearl clutching over the number of executive orders as if their content is irrelevant. Running bad-faith thinkpieces about the need for bipartisan, come to the middle with the Nazis, etc etc.
If we let them run with this unchallenged we'll just find ourselves back to where we were, nay, are at right now. They have to be better.
To be honest, a lot of the American news media spent the Trump years talking about "divisiveness", but instead of rightfully placing the blame on the cult-like Trump GOP, they would often make it a "both sides" issue.
I assume that this is the kind of thing the "average American" likes to see, because it shows two people "putting their differences aside", never mind that one of them is completely batshit.
I assume that this is the kind of thing the "average American" likes to see, because it shows two people "putting their differences aside", never mind that one of them is completely batshit.
He was a boy
She was a girl
Can I make it any more obvious?
He was a Democrat
She wanted the rightfully elected president to be publicly exacuated
What more can I say?
She was a girl
Can I make it any more obvious?
He was a Democrat
She wanted the rightfully elected president to be publicly exacuated
What more can I say?
Yeah, there's been a lot of this recently and you gotta look at who's on the masthead at these places that these stories are getting run. That should tell you everything.
This normalisation of lies is one of the worst byproducts of Trump's presidency, but I don't think most reasonable people are buying it anymore, so that's good at least. No more placating vacuous nonsense just because you want to appear impartial.
The AP has been guilty of lots of loaded language, suspect headlines and this sort of thing for a while. So there's def something going on there.
If it looks and smells funny, it probably is.
Anyway, if someone says white privilege doesn't exist just point to America's genial yawn-worthy reaction to the successful storming of the capitol in what was a planned coup attempt.
This normalisation of lies is one of the worst byproducts of Trump's presidency, but I don't think most reasonable people are buying it anymore, so that's good at least. No more placating vacuous nonsense just because you want to appear impartial.
The AP has been guilty of lots of loaded language, suspect headlines and this sort of thing for a while. So there's def something going on there.
If it looks and smells funny, it probably is.
Anyway, if someone says white privilege doesn't exist just point to America's genial yawn-worthy reaction to the successful storming of the capitol in what was a planned coup attempt.
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I strongly, deeply, with all of my heart believe that dinosaurs are still alive.
I'm sure some of you don't agree with me (but I can't understand why, you're just eating up whatever the books tell you huh).
Can we come to some sort of agreement? Like, what if we can agree that there are dino's in HALF the continents? I'm going out on a limb here, so you better do the same. You want that UNITY right?
Also btw, I require a australian-dino-hunting-license and a huge gun.
I'm sure some of you don't agree with me (but I can't understand why, you're just eating up whatever the books tell you huh).
Can we come to some sort of agreement? Like, what if we can agree that there are dino's in HALF the continents? I'm going out on a limb here, so you better do the same. You want that UNITY right?
Also btw, I require a australian-dino-hunting-license and a huge gun.
They ran these same worthless piece of shit pieces when Trump won.
Republicans in a nutshell.
Republicans in a nutshell.
This is how you sustain and infect these conspiracies onto more new people. Like I expect the worst thing for Trump was being removed from Twitter, eventually his support will die out, unless you have the main stream media and others doing his work for him like this.
There is no middle ground with people who can't agree to objective reality.
"I believe everyone should have equal rights." "I believe the Jews start forest fires with space lasers." "What if we agree that everyone should have the equal right to start fires with space lasers?"
They become no more a part of reality, while the other person becomes less a part of reality.
"I believe everyone should have equal rights." "I believe the Jews start forest fires with space lasers." "What if we agree that everyone should have the equal right to start fires with space lasers?"
They become no more a part of reality, while the other person becomes less a part of reality.
Someone who doesn’t think they’d be hurt by the viewpoints they’re normalisingz
And/or they’re related to or are friends people who have those violent ideologies
And/or they’re related to or are friends people who have those violent ideologies
Most US news outlets are about making money first, don't forget it. Piss people off and you lose that revenue
People need to learn that being unbiased doesn't mean that you have to validate a blatant rejection of truth.
There is no "middle ground" between believing an election was "stolen" and believing the several court cases and inquiries by officials showing there's no evidence suggesting that the results were illegitimate. Especially not when the former belief caused five people to be killed not even a full month.
This piece is absolute amateur hour on the part of AP. I would expect something like this on CNN or NYT.
There is no "middle ground" between believing an election was "stolen" and believing the several court cases and inquiries by officials showing there's no evidence suggesting that the results were illegitimate. Especially not when the former belief caused five people to be killed not even a full month.
This piece is absolute amateur hour on the part of AP. I would expect something like this on CNN or NYT.
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This is part of the problem in this country. The media's obsession with both sidesism. When someone is factually incorrect, that person should not be treated at the same level as someone who is factually correct. What next, is the AP going to portray someone who denies the Holocaust this way?
This is how Trump got elected. By giving legitimacy to far right conspiracy theories especially propelled by the media, it leads to people like her who are looking for the next populist candidate to come in and wreck shit worst than Trump.
we got hella lucky that we didn’t get a competent autocrat in the last four years. Trump was an idiot and did so much damage, imagine if he was actually smart.
we got hella lucky that we didn’t get a competent autocrat in the last four years. Trump was an idiot and did so much damage, imagine if he was actually smart.
This obsessive need to appear "unbiased", on any subject, out of fear of the right shitting themselves screaming about how unfairly they're being treated is one of the biggest curses of the 21st century.
This article, much like the recent one shared about the neo-nazi being normalised to show just how "every day" these people are, doesn't do its due diligence in highlighting just how dangerous and deluded these people are.
There is 0 value in presenting an image of both sides as some snapshot to highlight the divide on its own, and it is incredibly irresponsible.
This is why I groan every time republicans boohoo about the media. The media has always been advantageous for republicans. If Biden never said anything about unity they’d be roasting him and equating that to being as divisive as Trump.
Just wait until they start pinning all of Trump’s fuck-ups on him too.
Just wait until they start pinning all of Trump’s fuck-ups on him too.
Yep. Almost as if Billionaires (whose interest lies in republicans winning) controlling all mainstream media was not an absolute win for progressives who want to tax them into just regular obscene wealth, not mindblowingly ridiculously criminally obscene wealth.
But no, they want communism because they hate money and white people.
Arabs love conspiracy theories. For decades, CTs / rumors were all they had since governments censored the truth. Add in the post-colonialism humiliation and feelings of inadequacy and you can imagine the rest. Official-looking fake news are an epidemic.
Source: family whatsapp...me and my brother had to stomp on this shit countless times...even after warning people countless times to vet their sources and not share screencaps instead of verifiable URLs, etc.
While at the same time allowing the right to have their own media platforms that are blatantly biased for them.