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What is the appeal to the modern style of pop music?
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Yeah, in my 20s and I can't stand most modern pop, I mainly just listen to 60s-70s.
Both your definition of pop and the definition "music that charts" are valid ways of thinking about the genre. But when talking about what's actually broadly culturally relevant, as the OP and others seem to be, the second is more appropriate.
Nobody actually likes Pop Music, everyone collectively tolerates it so shopping malls get away with playing it as white noise as you're looking for vegetables, also applicable for work spaces where everyone tolerates it equally while not playing their own taste over the speakers. ;P
Had no clue that this was such a popular song worldwide, somehow thought it would have just been popular in a couple of Euro countries.
I love the song though
Is the study linked in the OP that one penned by engineers with zero background in music that uses a flawed database as their primary source of data?
Literally who are any of these acts? I think OP is talking about top 40 music. Which definitely sucks.
Capitalism leads to less risks. It's all been exacerbated by a better objective understanding of how to write, structure, produce, promote and distribute songs for maximum profit.
There's great pop out there, but it doesn't have nearly the reach of the stuff that is made to be at the absolute top.
Pop turned into a min/max competition.
There's great pop out there, but it doesn't have nearly the reach of the stuff that is made to be at the absolute top.
Pop turned into a min/max competition.
no, see, that doesn't count because it doesn't use the specific definition of pop music i want, which is "stuff i hear on the radio that i don't like"
anyway, stream king princess's new hit album cheap queen
even then there are fun pop rap bangers in the top 40 rn so idk, i think this really is people just not listening to stuff
Except those three are not really pop, by genre or top 40 definition. I would argue Sheryl Crow isn't either.
it is with a heavy sigh that i move you over to the "problematic fave" column
I don't know why you're hand waving
I would make the claim that top 40 music is different from pop music.
Some music is definitely min/maxed to be as profitable as possible. That's just capitalism. The songs we see topping billboards Have been engineered by a team of people to be drilled into the minds of the listener.
Of course not all top 40 music is like this, but I would wager that acts like Taylor Swift, Shawn Mendes, Billie Eilish, etc definitely fall into this category.
smaller acts may use musical conventions that superstar acts use (and often times use them better) which qualifies them as pop music, but I would not qualify them as top 40 contenders.
Excuse any typos/grammatical errors, on mobile
Perhaps OP should have said Top 40 Music instead of Pop then.
I'm sure they've all had at least one song in the top 40.
But you're just strengthening my point that there was a lack of non-sexualized female pop/top 40 musical talent in the 80s and 90s if even those don't count.
I agree, I was trying to strengthen your point in fact since I agree with it.
I like Kero Kero Benito, Billie Eilish, CHVRCHES, fka twigs, and Carly Rae Jepsen
Isn't rap music also just pop music? How popular is Danny brown?
Isn't rap music also just pop music? How popular is Danny brown?
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The first person that comes to mind Celine Dion.
The lyrics were not so sexual as today. The focus was more on romance.
We just got a new Hounds of Love like last week and it's already been posted in this thread 😜
I kinda feel this way too. 90s and 00s music seemed too try-hard, IMO. Not all music, but the ones that did seemed like they were compensating for something they didn't believe were a part of 80s music. It was like, "Aw fuck it! 80s was too friendly and unoffensive, it's time to get ugly and NASTAY!"
And perch yourself for the chart-climbing of The legendary xmas song All I Want For Christmas Is You 😻
Exactly what I was thinking of. FKA Twigs destroys this notion. Fantastic album too.
I dunno man. I listen to a vast variety of genres, and very little of it ends up on Top 40.
I will say though, what's happening in the Australian rock scene is something special.
I will say though, what's happening in the Australian rock scene is something special.
I certainly don't get it. Instead of listening to beautifully crafted electronica tunes with sophisticated use of ambience, white noise, and busy beats people would rather settle for the far more simple watered down imitations in recent pop stylings.
So easy to access different types of music than it used to be that gotta do mass appeal drivil because if you don't you won't be making much money as tastes are too spread out across the other stuff as people don't need settle for next closest thing anymore. And it has of course been run into the ground. It not just pop that suffered this.
It's immaculate from start to finish. She deserves all the acclaim she's getting.
Music revenue has also never recovered since the fall of music sales. Streaming has brought it up a little, but it's still a far smaller number than when people bought physical records. With less money to be made, there's a lower desire for a risk.
80's music was very offensive, especially to Christian groups on both sides. Are we really fotgetting the PMRC and the filthy 15 list?
Granted 80's pop music is still better than everything after.
Good question. I don't know. I wish I had been able to avoid pop music from the last 5 years. I just don't like it. It's sad. It's annoying. It's repetitive. Scientifically manufactured earworms. And overall it's just thinly veiled songs for teens about sex, drugs, and partying that glorify self-popularity. None of it appeals to me at all.