What is your personal belief about the death/afterlife?

Forerunner

The Fallen
Oct 30, 2017
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San Diego
Grew up believing in heaven/hell then I got to the point of nothingness. Now I'm at I don't know and I'm not going to worry about it.
 

Troast

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Oct 31, 2017
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If people really understood the concept of eternal afterlife and infinity, they would actually see heaven as the same as hell. No matter what you experience be it pleasure or pain, doing it forever and ever is torture.
 

plngsplsh

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Oct 28, 2017
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I am legion and the legion will dissipate,
my consciousness vanishes as cells disintegrate.
 
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takriel

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
5,365
We either die and that's it, or, if we're living in a simulation, our consciousness is somehow saved and reloaded or whatever.
 

lvl 99 Pixel

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Oct 25, 2017
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Sometimes people are gone or become someone else before they're dead thanks to degenerative diseases. Does my grandma get to live on in that horrible state after death or is it this optimal state where its her best years?

That's the most infuriating problem with the concept afterlives and persistent consciousness for me - the fact that we can perceive its growth and deterioration due to it being tied to your biology yet there's this wish to persist and presume you get to keep the complex brain function you have right now.

Its pure fantasy and takes away from how important it is to treat people with respect while you still can because we're only here once.
 

Typhon

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Oct 25, 2017
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I have absolutely no idea, it's not even something I give any consideration anymore. Don't know, don't care.
 

Froli

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Oct 25, 2017
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Philippines
It's either
  • Nothingness
  • Wake up from a simulation
  • Get reincarnate/relieve life in another (infinite) universe
Maybe all of the above
 

Axon

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Mar 9, 2020
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Probably nothing, but I don't pretend to know for certain either way. There are a lot of things we don't know yet (we don't even have a full grasp yet on what consciousness even is) and to pretend otherwise would be foolish.
 

Foffy

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Oct 25, 2017
7,401
If we define continuation of the "me" as the self, there is no continuation because this is a product of thought. The self existing, let alone existing after death, depends upon a dualistic cosmos.

Millions of cells in your organism die every few minutes. There's no central, unchanging "you." What exactly are we assuming carries on beyond death?
 

Temp_User

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Oct 30, 2017
2,160
There is no life after death. Unless you're counting undeath . . . . and only because liches are awesome!




There is no divine justice or eternal reward at the end. Which is why its imperative that we should strive to be more humble and be a more decent human being in order to be less of a burden to society as a whole.
 

PKrockin

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Oct 25, 2017
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The idea of a disembodied mind or soul that escapes the body upon death is about as reasonable as believing the demon Titivillus is responsible for the typos you make writing your TPS report.
 

Kinggroin

Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
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Uranus, get it?!? YOUR. ANUS.
I'm Christian, but have a hard time wrapping my head around the brief description of heaven found in the Bible. Sounds like an idealized version from the mind of someone who was poor and had little imagination.

I don't know, I think heaven is peace. Your energy (soul) is thrown back into the collective (God) and you're no longer burdened by a human husk. I hope (have faith) that our consciousness works like that to some degree.

Personally I like the idea of the reset switch also found in the Bible. Like a mix of reincarnation and traditional Christian views of heaven (earth remade, your body restored).
 

Aurongel

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Oct 28, 2017
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Oblivion, unless we develop some form of consciousness upload. I believe that life is lived truth which only has meaning because it doesn’t last forever. The notion of some eternal realm for your soul gives me major I Have no Mouth and Must Scream vibes once you exhaust every possible thing you could ever do there. True “eternity” is something that humans can’t even comprehend nor quantify. When I read other spiritual descriptions of their versions of an afterlife I’m left thinking that the whole thing sounds so... Small?
 

Monkey DTT

Avenger
Oct 28, 2017
3,279
USA West Virginia
Don't know, I don't expect what people have told me from like a heaven or hell thing but at the same time I don't fully understand this moment in time right now where I have a believed participation. Ultimately we are such small things in the universe it's hard to imagine any type of personal reward but I can't fully comprehend absolute death when we are alive now, in all of human history we are alive right now.
 

Mathieran

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Oct 25, 2017
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I dunno. Many cultures have independently come to the conclusion that there is some sort of higher power. So I hope that’s not a coincidence. I believe if there is one, that everyone is correct to some degree. I think if there is one, it just expresses itself differently to each culture.
But I am very skeptical.
 

DarknessTear

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Oct 25, 2017
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There's no form of consciousness, just nothing. Maybe since we're energy and we can't be destroyed, we become something once we break down - but our conscious selves are gone and this life we have now is it.
 

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Boring ass oblivion.

Here's hoping my brain does something epic before my consciousness completely fades out. Chances are it won't though, I'll die as I lived, disappointed with my unrealistic expectations.
 

Hey Please

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Oct 31, 2017
14,777
Not America
That there is a soul. The "I" factor.

However, bereft of hardware, it has no power of perception, thought, motor function, memory and sense of self.
 

Kinggroin

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Oct 26, 2017
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Uranus, get it?!? YOUR. ANUS.
Oblivion, unless we develop some form of consciousness upload. I believe that life is lived truth which only has meaning because it doesn’t last forever. The notion of some eternal realm for your soul gives me major I Have no Mouth and Must Scream vibes once you exhaust every possible thing you could ever do there. True “eternity” is something that humans can’t even comprehend nor quantify. When I read other spiritual descriptions of their versions of an afterlife I’m left thinking that the whole thing sounds so... Small?
See my earlier post. I 100% agree.

The descriptions of heaven, in any religion (my own included) sound so limited by human imagination.
 

Exellus

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Oct 30, 2017
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You remember that nothingness you experienced before you were born?

That was what death is like.

Or that dreamless sleep you experience every night. That's like being dead.

That's it.
 

FaceHugger

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Oct 27, 2017
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I used to be an atheist. But after reading Carl Sagan I became an agnostic. I don't see any evidence of an afterlife, nothing compelling. But I can't rule it out because how can one disprove a negative?
 

Kinggroin

Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
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Uranus, get it?!? YOUR. ANUS.
You die, that’s it. Stop looking for a mulligan from a magic sky fairy. Treat real people that exist now with dignity and, more importantly, equity.
You've gone off rails. Who are you having this conversation with? The OP posed a simple question. And also, no need to denigrate the faithful (however illogical it is to have faith in the first place) with labels like "sky fairy". We can be adults about this conversation.

(In another conversation, I would agree with you fwiw. No one should be using belief in an after life as an excuse for shitty behavior in the one we can measure right now).

My belief, we end. Sucks though, I envy those who can believe in an after life. I don't wanna die, I don't want my wife to die, and I damn sure don't want my daughter to die. Even if we could simply survive as nothing more than a program inside a PC one day, I'd take it to be with them forever. But it is what it is, we're falling off the cliff eventually, I'm just glad I found good partners for the duration of my climb.
I got choked up reading this
 

Tawpgun

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Oct 25, 2017
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The idea of reincarnation was always silly to me. If you don't remember your past life anyway what is the point? "You" basically died into nothing and something else took your place.

Anyway, death is nothing. Before you were born etc.

I just take some (lightly spiritual) solace in the fact that what we can consider our life force. Our energy etc. Gets transfered back into the earth and the universe and will be used by other living beings or assembled into something else. That's p cool.

I'm a big fan of those tree pod things that in lieu of a coffin you basically get put in this pod and your body nourishes a tree.
 

KastroXi

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Jun 11, 2018
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After reading all these posts stating that there’s no life after death; I’d like to bring this book to your attention - “The Urantia Book”. A book that all humans on this planet should at least read once. I don’t think I can cover all the topics mentioned.

It’s from a more or less a Christian standpoint (many would disagree since it forces you to re-learn a lot that the modern Christian Faith has taught - for example: there is no hell.

The book extensively covers:

The definition of God

The history of our local universe

The cause of the “Big Bang” all the way to the formation of earth

The early stages of earth and the evolution of the human species to this point

The actual origin of Adam and Eve and their default

A perspective of all religions, and where they have faltered and excelled (highly recommended

Full description of the afterlife - it’s not just endless bliss and repetitive actions that are being carried out. The post would be pages long if I had to list what goes on on the other side, better to read it yourselves. Our short stay on earth is the first link on this chain that is our long journey ahead.

And last but not least,(imo) the definitive life and teachings of Jesus Christ. It really puts him in a new light. Jesus for the masses, for everyone willing to learn by example from how he lived his life, from childhood to death.

Im not sure what more I can say, many of you will dismiss this book and that’s okay, some of you may even read it and be put off by it but those that do chance to really dig in will be better for it I assure you.

By a Christians definition I would labelled somewhat a heretic - but this book has changed my perspective made me even more Christ like and caring to my fellow person that I could ever imagine. Between religions and people it’s not a competition, it’s ultimately a group project.

The book doesn’t hold your hand, it’s very technical which is a pro and con. I would recommend reading in this order for ease of understanding:

Part 3: The history of Urantia

Part 4: The life and teachings of Jesus Christ

Part 1: The central and super universes

Part 2: The local universe

I’ll leave you with a few choice quotes relating to the thread:

“Eternal truth should not be slighted because it chances to be found in company with obsolete ideas regarding the material world.”

“Science teaches man to speak the new language of mathematics and trains his thoughts along lines of exacting precision. And science also stabilizes philosophy through the elimination of error, while it purifies religion by the destruction of superstition.”

“Modern man is adequately self-conscious of religion, but his worshipful customs are confused and discredited by his accelerated social metamorphosis and unprecedented scientific developments. Thinking men and women want religion redefined, and this demand will compel religion to re-evaluate itself.
Modern man is confronted with the task of making more readjustments of human values in one generation than have been made in two thousand years. And this all influences the social attitude toward religion, for religion is a way of living as well as a technique of thinking.
True religion must ever be, at one and the same time, the eternal foundation and the guiding star of all enduring civilizations.”

“Evolved religion commands respect because its followers believe it is The Truth; “the faith once delivered to the saints” must, in theory, be both final and infallible. The cult resists development because real progress is certain to modify or destroy the cult itself; therefore must revision always be forced upon it.
Only two influences can modify and uplift the dogmas of natural religion: the pressure of the slowly advancing mores and the periodic illumination of epochal revelation. And it is not strange that progress was slow; in ancient days, to be progressive or inventive meant to be killed as a sorcerer”

There’s so much more - I can’t force you to believe in life after death, only put the info out and ask that you may reconsider.
There’s so much to do in this life and even more in the next, but with that said we should try our best to do good by others and lookout for each other especially at times like these - not only should we love others as we love ourselves, but endeavour to take it a step further and love others more than we love ourselves!