I know people that did not want kids their entire life and now are in their 40's or about to be 40 and have regrets, but are too scared to try now due to possible complications from pregnancy. People can change their minds.
If I went to my grave without ever having a kid, what would be the point of it all?
Pressure from friends and family.
Boredom.
Thinking it will fix a relationship.
Someone to take care of them when they are old (seriously haha)
Someone to do chores, take care of the farm, or something.
Because they like taking care of other people kids and figure they'd want their own.
Someone to leave their stuff to when they die.
Personally I see no good reason.
then i guess it's the end of the human race as we know it.Pressure from friends and family.
Boredom.
Thinking it will fix a relationship.
Someone to take care of them when they are old (seriously haha)
Someone to do chores, take care of the farm, or something.
Because they like taking care of other people kids and figure they'd want their own.
Someone to leave their stuff to when they die.
Personally I see no good reason.
World is going to be a great place when the only people procreating are christian climate change deniers...It's not worth it imo, especially with the ongoing climate crisis that makes me never want to adopt and raise a kid that will deal with all that
yeah it's this.It's the easiest and fastest path to happiness and fulfillment for most people.
Not saying it isn't work (good luck with all that), but that is how I see it.
looooooool do I gain the knowledge when I hit 40?
Life is only boring if you're a boring person. Having kids because you're bored is hilarious.Life is pretty damn boring if youre childless in your 30s. I had my first kid at 34 and prior to that my life consisted of work, starbucks and my friends cancelling on weekend plans due to family obligations.
I have three kids and work full time. I have no problem finding time for myself if I need it. Sure I don't get as much as I used to, but I still get more than enough to be happy. As for traveling, we just went on vacation last week and had a fun time.They're an obstacle to freedom period.
I grew up with several siblings younger than me (the closest age gap was 13 years), so I know exactly how demanding kids can be. Having children means that your life is no longer entirely yours - it revolves around taking care of somebody else. Add work to that mix and you'll have very little time for yourself. So it's not just gaming time that would be limited - everything is. Good luck traveling the world with kids. Good luck doing something on the weekend just for you.
No thanks. I probably work better hours than most here, and even I feel like I don't have enough personal time.
anecdotally speaking, you'll gain depression :V
Basically.
If I went to my grave without ever having a kid, what would be the point of it all?
This site is like exhibit A on why people shouldn't reproduce.
Of course I know kids can have a passport. But traveling with kids is an entirely different experience than traveling as an adult with friends or a partner. If you're taking kids, you have to try and do things that will keep them entertained. It's just not something I have any interest in.My parents managed this just fine. You do realize kids can get passports too yes? Obviously its more of a financial investment but you're writing like the idea of the family vacation is a totally foreign concept. Families travel everywhere all the time, and have fun doing it too! Some parents are better equipped for dealing with this than others temperament wise of course.
Point being its obviously not for everyone but to act like having a life with travel in addition to kids is some nigh impossible balancing act is a bit inside your own bubble.
My daughter has slept till noon since like 6 months old . Lucky I know but even sleep ain't bad for everyoneAgreed.
I have 2 kids, was vomited on once.
The sleep thing is real though.
man...the average age of ERA is like 25, is it?
then i guess it's the end of the human race as we know it.
Kids are super adaptable. We travelled in a pretty poor country for two months with an eight month old. Going to do it again with two kids in the next few months.Of course I know kids can have a passport. But traveling with kids is an entirely different experience than traveling as an adult with friends or a partner. If you're taking kids, you have to try and do things that will keep them entertained. It's just not something I have any interest in.
Of course I know kids can have a passport. But traveling with kids is an entirely different experience than traveling as an adult with friends or a partner. If you're taking kids, you have to try and do things that will keep them entertained. It's just not something I have any interest in.
Now this is a post.This forum cracks me up sometimes. Like, I totally respect not wanting to have kids. No issue with that of all, of course. Whether it just be because you want to focus entirely on yourself, you and your partner, vacations, financial stability... or hell, maybe you just think kids are annoying. But to not even be able to understand why others might want a family... that's really that hard?
Anyway, I had a great single life. Plenty of different girlfriends/partners, a couple great hobbies (video games, photography, cars); once I got married I was able to focus on savings, buying a house, going on lots of vacations, etc. For all intents and purposes, I was living the "dream" with a good job and some financial security and a beautiful wife. I wasn't biting at the bit for kids, by any means. I knew I wanted one someday, but someday could certainly be down the road.
I have a 10 month old girl now, and she is - without a doubt - the most incredible, amazing, fulfilling thing I've ever done. She's beautiful. She is smart. She is already so kind and so strong-willed. I can pretty much see her brain firing when she figures something out or learns something. I have a life ahead of me of sharing the world's experiences with her. To go on trips. To find a passion. To work hard and fail. To work hard and succeed. To work hard and realize it didn't matter. To love. To lose love. To find love again but different. To meet friends. To grow as friends. To understanding what makes her tick. To finding a job and a career and then, eventually, maybe even her own family and for her to experience all of this through the eyes of a parent. And in return? I am a bit more tired, I can't go on that vacation to Tokyo this year, I have a fair bit less time for video games, and I've gained ~10lbs. Big whoop. I'd make that trade a million times over to get one more day with her.
This board is sometimes too damn cynical. There are still plenty of things worth living for in this world. There is so much wrong with it, too, yes; but hopefully I can empower her to be a voice of change. And even if not... even the littlest things can be the most magical for a child. I can't wait to share.
I was the oldest child so I had enough of it all when I was at 16 or something, seeing the stress and dealing with trying to be an example to my siblings myself. I doubt I was ever a problem for my parents, but boy was my younger sister, and somewhat my younger brother. I've seen the chaos of "you never want me to have any fun" and having finding them sneaking out of the window at night becoming the bad guy for trying to look out for them. When they finally became adults, one now being a Major in the army even, it felt like I already been through it and NOPE. The thing is, the stuff I did was just a grain of sand in actually raising someone.If you're being serious... this is supremely close-minded. I'm not saying you have to agree with anyone's reasons for having kids, but there are most certainly more positive reasons behind the decision than those above.
This forum cracks me up sometimes. Like, I totally respect not wanting to have kids. No issue with that of all, of course. Whether it just be because you want to focus entirely on yourself, you and your partner, vacations, financial stability... or hell, maybe you just think kids are annoying. But to not even be able to understand why others might want a family... that's really that hard?
Anyway, I had a great single life. Plenty of different girlfriends/partners, a couple great hobbies (video games, photography, cars); once I got married I was able to focus on savings, buying a house, going on lots of vacations, etc. For all intents and purposes, I was living the "dream" with a good job and some financial security and a beautiful wife. I wasn't biting at the bit for kids, by any means. I knew I wanted one someday, but someday could certainly be down the road.
I have a 10 month old girl now, and she is - without a doubt - the most incredible, amazing, fulfilling thing I've ever done. She's beautiful. She is smart. She is already so kind and so strong-willed. I can pretty much see her brain firing when she figures something out or learns something. I have a life ahead of me of sharing the world's experiences with her. To go on trips. To find a passion. To work hard and fail. To work hard and succeed. To work hard and realize it didn't matter. To love. To lose love. To find love again but different. To meet friends. To grow as friends. To understanding what makes her tick. To finding a job and a career and then, eventually, maybe even her own family and for her to experience all of this through the eyes of a parent. And in return? I am a bit more tired, I can't go on that vacation to Tokyo this year, I have a fair bit less time for video games, and I've gained ~10lbs. Big whoop. I'd make that trade a million times over to get one more day with her.
This board is sometimes too damn cynical. There are still plenty of things worth living for in this world. There is so much wrong with it, too, yes; but hopefully I can empower her to be a voice of change. And even if not... even the littlest things can be the most magical for a child. I can't wait to share.
There's so much awesome stuff to do these days. Awesome technology, awesome vehicles and activities. We can pay a lot of money to experience zero G, or go anywhere we want with a awesome GPS on our phones. We're only limited to the time we have off and what we can spend.Life is pretty damn boring if youre childless in your 30s. I had my first kid at 34 and prior to that my life consisted of work, starbucks and my friends cancelling on weekend plans due to family obligations.
I'm not saying it isn't rewarding to have kids and that some people can make it work for them. It's just not for me.I have three kids and work full time. I have no problem finding time for myself if I need it. Sure I don't get as much as I used to, but I still get more than enough to be happy. As for traveling, we just went on vacation last week and had a fun time.
You ain't gotta have kids, but you owe something to someone. Because you wouldn't have been able to become a functioning adult all by yourself. Someone helped you along the way. No need to be edgy.
They're an obstacle to freedom period.
Good luck traveling the world with kids.
They're an obstacle to freedom period.
I grew up with several siblings younger than me (the closest age gap was 13 years), so I know exactly how demanding kids can be.
Don't make assumptions.
Even if you get your dream job or dream relationship, eventually you will get bored and wonder if there could be more to life.
I dont get this logic. Kids who need adoption are already born and will live through climate change either way so why not adopting them if you are willing and able to give them a better lot in what life they do have?