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What role and place do conservatives and Republicans have on this fourm?

Heromanz

Heromanz

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Oct 25, 2017
20,202
With the passing of John McCain and the resulting thread it got me thinking about conservative and Republicans role and places in this community. Era is one of the most liberal forum on the web. Is a home to some great liberal people. However it is no secret that this place is also home to many conservatives and republicans. It also no Secret that the Republicans party and other conservatives party have policies and views that goes against the very idea of what era stands for, like being anti poor, black, minorities, lgbtq community etc. And it has been Amplified with President Trump in office a man who also goes against what this forum stands for. So my question is what place and role do conservatives and Republican have on this forum. For example is against TOS to be a pro Trump member on this?
 
sphagnum

sphagnum

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Oct 25, 2017
16,058
They can say whatever they want so long as it does not go against the rules of the TOS. The problem is that conservatism at this point largely rests on ideas that go against the TOS.

You'd basically have to be a Rockefeller Republican, which doesn't really exist anymore, or a strongly principled libertarian to get by, and then you'd get dog piled anyway because it's a heavily liberal community.
 
hydrophilic attack

hydrophilic attack

Member
Oct 25, 2017
21,466
Sweden
if you still support the GOP, that means you are a racist/bigot/fascist, or at least ok with racists/bigots/fascists for the sake of tax cut

you're a bad person either way
sphagnum said:
They can say whatever they want so long as it does not go against the rules of the TOS. The problem is that conservatism at this point largely rests on ideas that go against the TOS.
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that's pretty much it
 

Deleted member 198

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Oct 25, 2017
12,319
Making political viewpoints against the TOS is one of the dumbest things I've heard as a site suggestion. People who are racist and such get slapped immediately anyways, so it isn't an issue.

You also can't change someone's mind if you permaban them immediately for disagreeing on smaller topics or issues.
 
Cocolina

Cocolina

Member
Oct 28, 2017
7,990
the tide of Era opinion changes more often than my underpants, it's hard to keep up so I don't really give a fuck what American political affiliation you are
 
HarryHengst

HarryHengst

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Oct 27, 2017
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Magwik said:
Making political viewpoints against the TOS is one of the dumbest things I've heard as a site suggestion. People who are racist and such get slapped immediately anyways, so it isn't an issue.

You also can't change someone's mind if you permaban them immediately for disagreeing on smaller topics or issues.
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If my political viewpoint is ''Hitler was right and did nothing wrong, shame he couldnt finish the job'', should that be OK? Especially if i also start spouting citations from Mein Kampf to support my view? Because there racism, antisemitism and political opinions intertwine.
 
Rendering...

Rendering...

Member
Oct 30, 2017
19,089
To play coy about social issues until they finally admit to some belief that's incompatible with human decency? To pretend Trump isn't a disgusting, incurious, wholly unqualified bully? To ignore evidence?
 
Clockwork

Clockwork

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Oct 30, 2017
864
Wisconsin
The same role as any political affiliation would...

...because this isn't a partisan politics forum.

HarryHengst said:
If my political viewpoint is ''Hitler was right and did nothing wrong, shame he couldnt finish the job'', should that be OK? Especially if i also start spouting citations from Mein Kampf to support my view? Because there racism, antisemitism and political opinions intertwine.
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You would would be a horrrible person, but unless the view is expressed here that's not really a TOS violation.
 
Shelbyville Milhouse

Shelbyville Milhouse

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Oct 25, 2017
22,378
Not that I'm a mod but I imagine the response is something like:
It's fine to be a Republican but if you ever defend the racism, transphobia and sexism Republicans stand for you will be in trouble.
 
Lundren

Lundren

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Oct 27, 2017
1,745
Whataboutism, just asking questions, waiting for more information, misunderstanding the first amendment, and polite defense of bigotry.

They seem to do pretty well on the gaming side, though.
 

Dekim

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Oct 28, 2017
4,301
Conservatives, if they exists on this site, are smart enough to stay out of political threads and to mostly stay in the gaming side.
 
Serif

Serif

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
3,794
Conservatives from countries that aren't America might end up leaning more left on the political spectrum and so might be less likely to hold bigoted political opinions.

We can have discussions and debates about the implementation of specific policy (e.g. universal basic income vs. living wage, or having both) but there shouldn't be a debate in the first place about whether human rights or global warming exists.

If you're an American "Republican" / conservative, you're a lost cause honestly. As a brown immigrant, I feel threatened in the presence of Trump supporters. I don't particularly care about changing your mind about me.
 
Sordid Plebeian

Sordid Plebeian

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Oct 26, 2017
17,383
I feel like they're forced into a role of ridicule, opposition, and even at some points hostility due to just how left leaning this forum is, along with current perspections of the Republican Party and the Trump Presidency. Especially today, it's difficult to separate one's morals from their politics because in many places they have become so intertwined, so it's hard to preach for balanced, civil discussion when people challenge your personal beliefs. I do wish that more conservative members felt like they could have more of a voice here because regardless of how strongly I may disagree with them, I always find it interesting to see what the other side is thinking, unless they're only here to blatantly spread hate and intolerance.
 

TheRagnCajun

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Oct 29, 2017
590
There's right and then there's far-right. I think ERA is not hospitable for the far right. If you are a conservative but reject Trump and get your news from somewhere more reputable than Fox then you might last here...
 

Ravensmash

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Oct 25, 2017
8,797
The same role and purpose as anyone else.

By which I mean, contributing to discussions, posting in good faith and abiding by the TOS.

I'm not conservative, either by the UK measure or by the US standard but I'd welcome decent discussions from differing sides during debates.
 
Kernel

Kernel

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Oct 25, 2017
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Heromanz said:
This forum has been pretty anti conservatives and Republican send day zero
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Only because of what they stand far. I imagine there's quite a few people here negatively impacted by Republican policies on a daily basis .

Hard to pro conservative when they're trying to deport you or kill you by taking your insurance away etc.
 
Soda

Soda

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Oct 26, 2017
8,876
Dunedin, New Zealand
I'd say fiscal conservatives can fit in here. There's a significant difference between fiscal conservatives and your modern GOP, republicans or alt-right, though.
 
Vas

Vas

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Oct 25, 2017
4,016
There are more conservatives on this forum than you think, but in an insidious way, going on what NeoGAF was like.

Lots of alt-right use this forum and pretend to be liberals/progressives to 'troll' the Left. You can usually sniff them out if you look for people with controversial avatars who interject themselves into political discourse with suspiciously odd political language that no regular Americans use with lots of odd spelling and grammar mistakes that no regular Americans make. They'll post at odd times of the day to concern troll to try to point out the hypocrisy of the forum. It's not a science, but if you look for the signs, you should hold such posters with a bit a wariness.

I'm fine with conservatives. Even infuriating gun-rights types, if they follow the rules and are sincere. The alt-right trolls are a different animal.
 
tulpa

tulpa

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Oct 28, 2017
3,878
A massive one. The board has a huge population of people who are essentially conservative. But, since they are anti-Trump and liberal, that is OK, apparently. Just look at any thread about Trump and how filled it is with jingoism and appeals to nationalism framed around "treason" and "traitors" against the United States.
 
HStallion

HStallion

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Oct 25, 2017
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Magwik said:
Making political viewpoints against the TOS is one of the dumbest things I've heard as a site suggestion. People who are racist and such get slapped immediately anyways, so it isn't an issue.

You also can't change someone's mind if you permaban them immediately for disagreeing on smaller topics or issues.
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It's not anyone's responsibility here to change anyone's mind.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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HarryHengst said:
If my political viewpoint is ''Hitler was right and did nothing wrong, shame he couldnt finish the job'', should that be OK? Especially if i also start spouting citations from Mein Kampf to support my view? Because there racism, antisemitism and political opinions intertwine.
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I mean how am I supposed to know what you think unless you express it? Because saying something like Hitler was right will catch a ban no matter what unless you're on GAF.
But if someone identifies as a conservative and just thinks about smaller Government, then what good to do by flat out banning and not trying to change their mind? How does this idea apply globally where we have members from pretty much every corner? It's just a waste of time and effort.
Say dumb or horrible shit and you're gone. It's that simple.
 
Jag

Jag

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Oct 26, 2017
11,673
Up until now I've never been party specific at all. I've hated people on the left and right. I always voted the better candidate regardless of party, but I have leaned fiscally conservative and want government to have a smaller role.

However, those days are long gone and every vote I make from now on will always be Democratic unless they are a full Trump like nutjob.
 
Orb

Orb

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Oct 27, 2017
9,465
USA
Their role is in the fucking garbage in my opinion.

I cannot imagine how anyone who chooses to identify as Republican or conservative (at least in the US) does not hold at least one "opinion" that is hateful or bigoted in some way, even if it's only inadvertently. Because even those people who say "I'm socially liberal but fiscally conservative" don't realize that their fiscal opinions are actually the cause of many societal problems that disproportionately affect marginalized groups. (Plus I often find that those people are actually just "anti-PC" idiots.)
 
Bandage

Bandage

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Oct 25, 2017
11,626
The Internet
Conservatives have no place in polite society let alone this forum.
Their ideals, life style and beliefs are all harmful to humanity as a whole and individuals.
The more their ostracized from the public, the better.
 
Sev

Sev

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Oct 27, 2017
422
They don't have a role because they're being silenced by the SJWs and the political correctness army.

Truly the most oppressed minority :(

 
Fisty

Fisty

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Oct 25, 2017
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True Republicans should be fine. It's when you start getting into the identity politics that have become associated that you catch a justified ban.

Joe Scarborough and Malcom Nance wouldn't get banned from ERA.
 
nemoral

nemoral

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Oct 25, 2017
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If they can manage to express their opinions without violating the TOS, I don't have any problem with them being here. But most of them either wind up violating the TOS because they express racist, homophobic, sexist, or transphobic viewpoints, or they flip out when they're trying to argue with forty-seven people at once, start calling people names and get hosed.
 
TheFuzz

TheFuzz

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Oct 25, 2017
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TheRagnCajun said:
There's right and then there's far-right. I think ERA is not hospitable for the far right. If you are a conservative but reject Trump and get your news from somewhere more reputable than Fox then you might last here...
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I have voted both Republican and Democrat in US elections, never watch Fox News, despise Sean Hannity, and whenever I did vote Republican, I did so based on economic ideals, especially at the local level. Never voted for Trump and am overall pretty disgusted with the Republican Party and what it has become, I get by just fine.

I imagine I'm not the typical user since I don't necessarily identify as extremely liberal or progressive, but I think you can manage here as a "Republican" just fine as long as you have an open-mind and willfully acknowledge that 'your' party is a dumpster fire and is currently a disgusting representation of all that is wrong with this country.

Not to say democrats don't have their issues, they certainly do, but it's nowhere near close.
 
PJV3

PJV3

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Oct 25, 2017
25,676
London
It will be good to get back to normal conservatives v Liberals v socialists at some point, the religious nationalist stuff is a dead end and the sooner it gets dropped the better.
 
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