I'm not letting this comment chain go.
This is the comment chain between Hollywood Duo and '3y Kingdom
The original thread was locked and there is no point in going over the reasons it was locked. What matters is the discussion here about parenting so use your own imagination on what would warrant this chain. The scenario you should be thinking of is that you are a parent raising a child that increasingly shows behavior that is a danger to even your own family members.
[edit]When I say things have reached a point that even your own family is being threatened I'm talking about it has gotten to a point your child since a teenager has started verbally assaulting immediate members and has gotten into physical confrontation with friends, relatives and strangers at school.
You had previous signs of problems around when they hit puberty but even with all you could do to address those problems then it spiraled out into these immediate threats to the rest of the family.
The discussion I'm focusing on is whether or not parents should always be held responsible when things get this bad. If you do believe they are responsible what could you have done better than already attempting to use multiple therapists, increasing the levels of which you monitor your children with each new incident and having heart to heart conversations.[/edit]
Personally I've held the attitude that a parent is ultimately responsible for how a child comes out but today I've come to agree with RedMercury's assessment.
Personally while professional help is also needed I would take additional time off from work to drill down into my kid's reasoning for doing the things they do. I would question why they did every little thing that builds up to such a serious problem that I would have to be worried about the safety of everyone else in the family.
As much as I would like to believe you can plan ahead to be an amazing parent certain scenarios are too crazy to deal with because there isn't any sufficient ways to get prepared beforehand.
Considering being psychopathic is a mental illness...sure. An attentive parent would probably notice that a child showed very little to no empathy and get them help.
The idea that everything has to be concretely blamed on the parents in situations like this is inhuman, ironically far closer to the black-and-white mentality of the Internet subcultures you're railing against than anything resembling reality. It's just a deluded subset of the myth that everyone deserves what's coming to them, circumstances be damned.
f the account is real, he let this shit happen for at least 3 years. It is inattentive.
The idea that everything has to be concretely blamed on the parents in situations like this is inhuman, ironically far closer to the black-and-white mentality of the Internet subcultures you're railing against than anything resembling reality. It's just a deluded subset of the myth that everyone deserves what's coming to them, circumstances be damned.
There are multiple concrete things the parents could have done and failed to do (Again assuming this is real which I doubt it is)
This is the comment chain between Hollywood Duo and '3y Kingdom
The original thread was locked and there is no point in going over the reasons it was locked. What matters is the discussion here about parenting so use your own imagination on what would warrant this chain. The scenario you should be thinking of is that you are a parent raising a child that increasingly shows behavior that is a danger to even your own family members.
[edit]When I say things have reached a point that even your own family is being threatened I'm talking about it has gotten to a point your child since a teenager has started verbally assaulting immediate members and has gotten into physical confrontation with friends, relatives and strangers at school.
You had previous signs of problems around when they hit puberty but even with all you could do to address those problems then it spiraled out into these immediate threats to the rest of the family.
The discussion I'm focusing on is whether or not parents should always be held responsible when things get this bad. If you do believe they are responsible what could you have done better than already attempting to use multiple therapists, increasing the levels of which you monitor your children with each new incident and having heart to heart conversations.[/edit]
Personally I've held the attitude that a parent is ultimately responsible for how a child comes out but today I've come to agree with RedMercury's assessment.
Yeah, we really can't get into blaming the parents. There are just too many vectors for this hateful shit to permeate and as a parent you do your best but you cannot keep your children in a bubble 24/7- you have your own things to worry about too, your own career, paying the bills and mortgage, a lot of times other children as well. You can do everything you can and your child can still go down a bad road, you can offer them every lifeline but they can refuse to take it. Parents are not psychiatrists or therapists, there is a limit to what we can be reasonably expected to achieve.
Personally while professional help is also needed I would take additional time off from work to drill down into my kid's reasoning for doing the things they do. I would question why they did every little thing that builds up to such a serious problem that I would have to be worried about the safety of everyone else in the family.
As much as I would like to believe you can plan ahead to be an amazing parent certain scenarios are too crazy to deal with because there isn't any sufficient ways to get prepared beforehand.
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