It's like being a fan of the DmC reboot and stating your love for it, only for the "real" DMC fans and purists to tell you just how wrong you are for enjoying a game they didn't. When even the developer of DMC V came out and said he enjoyed the reboot, you still have these insecure nerds who say it's all just lip service.Lately?
There's no one more annoyingly combative than an entitled nerd, and there is no nerd more entitled than a gamer. This has been the case for many years now. Gamers are whiny and spoiled and think the industry owes them everything they demand. They also are some of the least tolerant people of opposing views that I've ever encountered.
It's always been this way.
Lol is that where my hack brain got that? Still true nonetheless. Damn it now I want to watch The Matrix again. So thanks for that, sincerely.
Just don't spoil the GOTY in the title. ;)
People were quietly leaving GAF before the implosion. It was the catalyst but there was underlying issues which made the thought of leaving more palatable for a lot of people.GAF didn't implode because of it's discussion, it implode because the owner was found to be a sexual harrasser and people didn't want to be in a site owned by such a person.
If that stuff didn't come to the light, we would all be still on GAF.
I wish I were you so I could not notice the negative discourse that goes on in Fallout 76 threads. Don't you dare to publicly say that you have a positive view on that game otherwise you will get dogpiled on.I see nothing wrong with those threads. Bethesda (the faceless corporate entity, not the individuals that developed the game) deserve every bit of criticism they got for releasing such a mess of a product.
Again, I am strongly against attacking or even being condescending or rude to individuals expressing a different opinion. I am fine with strongly criticizing and making fun of corporations when they pull that sort of shit.I wish I were you so I could not notice the negative discourse that goes on in Fallout 76 threads. Don't you dare to publicly say that you have a positive view on that game otherwise you will get dogpiled on.
People left GAF for its discussions as much as people are leaving Resetera nowadays. Some people, yes, but not noticeable.People were quietly leaving GAF before the implosion. It was the catalyst but there was underlying issues which made the thought of leaving more palatable for a lot of people.
Just look at the Shinobi an de Andromeda fiasco.
Gaming side is great for news, sales and some communities.This just isn’t a fun place and I don’t think it’s meant to be. I think for a lot of us it’s just a place to go and get the latest news and information. For better and for worst - people take videogames very seriously here.
But there’s some fun to be had in the offtopic side if you ignore all the Trump threads.
I'll say it isn't about being positive or negative as much as it is some people not being able to handle a differing opinion tactfully and respectfully.You don’t get reactions for being positive. Reset isn’t all that different than Twitter or the comments section of YouTube in that regard.
I started browsing GAF circa 2012 and you could clearly noticed a shift in the way people interacted with on another towards the last couple of years. In the Discords people were hopeful that with a clean slate people would be more friendly. It was a huge talking point last year and IIRC the admins made it a priority at first.People left GAF as much as people are leaving Resetera nowadays. Some people but not noticeable.
The thing is that what drove the exodus fromGAF to this site wasn't the disclosure or people being unhappy with the forum, but what the owner did.
There's always people that pop and say "I hate this place, is so toxic!" yet they keep staying here. It happened in GAF, it happened in Era. And that's because people know the alternative is smaller forum that are way more toxic (unless you go to very specific subreddits for one game with limited discussions).
And that's because the toxicity, at the end, doesn't come from a forum, but from a culture.
On the contrary, I believe it's actually the forum that allows this kind of negativity to foster. Everyone has an agenda in this forum and wants their opinions to be heard while shutting down everyone else.People left GAF for its discussions as much as people are leaving Resetera nowadays. Some people but not noticeable.
The thing is that what drove the exodus fromGAF to this site wasn't the disclosure or people being unhappy with the forum, but what the owner did.
There's always people that pop and say "I hate this place, is so toxic!" yet they keep staying here. It happened in GAF, it happened in Era. And that's because people know the alternative is smaller forum that are way more toxic (unless you go to very specific subreddits for one game with limited discussions).
And that's because the toxicity, at the end, doesn't come from a forum, but from a culture.
Btw, the Shinobi stuff what happened there was utterly embarassing and I already keep saying that in there. I know it would have happened the same in any other gaming forum as big as GAF though, sadly.
I was in the Discord too and of course I remember people talking about hoping this place being more positive, but how do you do that? how do you make a gaming site more positive when there's so much toxic players, entitled gamers, fanboys that just want to start console wars, famous youtubers that dedicate 30 minutes videos to hate onto something that are viewed by millions of player...?I started browsing GAF circa 2012 and you could clearly noticed a shift in the way people interacted with on another towards the last couple of years. In the Discords people were hopeful that with a clean slate people would be more friendly. It was a huge talking point last year and IIRC the admins made it a priority at first.
It might be worse elsewhere but it wasn’t always like this before and it could definitely be better.
what can the forum do? some people already criticize the mods here to be too heavy-handed, do you want them to ban everyone that has a slight amount of negativity in their comment? they only can do so much.On the contrary, I believe it's actually the forum that allows this kind of negativity to foster. Everyone has an agenda in this forum and wants their opinions to be heard while shutting down everyone else.
How about start with NOT banning everyone who has a slightly different opinion?I was in the Discord too and of course I remember people talking about hoping this place being more positive, but how do you do that? how do you make a gaming site more positive when there's so much toxic players, entitled gamers, fanboys that just want to start console wars, famous youtubers that dedicate 30 minutes videos to hate onto something that are viewed by millions of player...?
That's why I say this is not a Resetera fault but a gaming culture fault, this was always in it's core, but as gaming growns bigger, the toxicity sadly does too.
Of course it could be better, and I wish it was, but it's hard to do with how gaming culture is nowadays.
what can the forum do? some people already criticize the mods here to be too heavy-handed, do you want them to ban everyone that has a slight amount of negativity in their comment? they only can do so much.
I agree. In my previous post I almost said something about how it's clear that some care way more than I do about video game details that are minor to me and that I prefer to use my limited anger on things that affect me more significantly like issues at work, politics, and the crooked system working as intended.Based on what you wrote and my own personal observations. I wish more people on here would care about representation, than they care about what suit is in Spider-Man. I wish people cared more about the feelings of the LGBTQ+ community when devs take the piss and make shitty jokes and remarks about their lives and struggles rather than being upset about how detailed or not detailed a puddle is. I wish people gave a shit more about various minority groups, your fellow friends and fans on here, than they did about how good a game was, in spite of it's creator being a Nazi.
I'm negative because a lot of folks here have a priority problem and I'm sick of it.
depending what a "slightly different opinion" means, it can be deserving of a ban. There's a TOS for a reason.How about start with NOT banning everyone who has a slightly different opinion?
Everytime I check GameFAQs after page 2/3 everyone start to insult each other, and this is in a forum about 1 single game!Era has been like this for a long time now. I only come here to get the news, and rarely explore past the first page for most threads because it always ends up the same.
Sometimes I wonder that GameFAQs is probably less toxic than here, when a decade ago the opposite was true.
Sure, I understand that, but would be nice if you consider just like that example that there are many others, single mothers / people with disabilities / minorities / etc, and so with that statement all of them suck then? (at least you didn't say fuck gamers like many others do).I cannot with good conscience call gaming a hobby with mostly good people populating it when the shitty aspects eclipse it for me. Sorry.
I'll be honest, I've never actually gone to GameFAQs, I just remember people saying it was a terrible place a long time ago. It's just sometimes after reading how some threads on here end up, I start to wonder how bad other places could be.Everytime I check GameFAQs after page 2/3 everyone start to insult each other, and this is in a forum about 1 single game!
to be honest, that happens in a lot of threads on here tooEverytime I check GameFAQs after page 2/3 everyone start to insult each other, and this is in a forum about 1 single game!
I agree, it’s a tough thing to work out and I don’t have an answer as well. Maybe more communication between the mod team and the users would help a bit? Something to foster the sense of community a bit more.I was in the Discord too and of course I remember people talking about hoping this place being more positive, but how do you do that? how do you make a gaming site more positive when there's so much toxic players, entitled gamers, fanboys that just want to start console wars, famous youtubers that dedicate 30 minutes videos to hate onto something that are viewed by millions of player...?
That's why I say this is not a Resetera fault but a gaming culture fault, this was always in it's core, but as gaming growns bigger, the toxicity sadly does too.
Of course it could be better, and I wish it was, but it's hard to do with how gaming culture is nowadays.
I missed it. what was the gist of the arguing?Holy shit that Gamespot goty red dead thread. Nastiness all around, gleeful nasitness too.
At least in ectera we can have some fun threads.
I felt bad for Dark1x reading that thread.I agree.
Even DF threads has people here attacking the content creators over nitpicks that are 'unacceptable' or are raising questions about nonexistent white supremacist backgrounds.