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Which was your favorite province?

  • Iliac Bay (High Rock/Hammerfell)

    Votes: 3 0.9%
  • Vvardenfell (Morrowind)

    Votes: 143 42.1%
  • Cyrodiil

    Votes: 92 27.1%
  • Skyrim

    Votes: 102 30.0%

  • Total voters
    340

SolVanderlyn

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Hey, all. Let's discuss one of my absolute favorite settings in games, the continent of Tamriel. A place where gods are real, vampires run amok, dragons travel through time, and humans become so self-aware they can essentially glitch themselves out of the Matrix and become a god themselves.

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The continent is so huge that entire games take place in ONE of the provinces that you see. Until Elder Scrolls Online, we didn't see most of Tamriel - and much of it still remains unexplored. Let's take a look at the provinces that have been fleshed out in the series proper, shall we?

For the sake of this thread, I'll keep my explanations/flavor text as simple as possible. If you want to know more, check out the links to the wiki. Each province has heaps of lore to read!

Elder Scrolls 1 had us exploring...

The entire continent!?

Yes, but sadly, the presentation and story, while well received at the time, is primitive in how it compares to the rest of the series, and is no longer representative of its respective provinces. In fact, I know of few who played this game, and fewer who recommend it. So let's move on to...

Elder Scrolls 2: Daggerfall

Iliac Bay area (High Rock and Hammerfell)

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The upper half is the province of High Rock.

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The lower half is the desert province of Hammerfell.

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High Rock is probably the most stereotypical fantasy setting of the lot. With the Bretons living there, there's a lot of focus on political machinations, castles, magic, etc. I personally recognize it by its somewhat dreary atmosphere, with deep emerald fields of grass and overcast skies, as well as a stuffy populace.

Hammerfell is a vast desert inhabited by the Redguards. The culture here is one that reflects its rough geography, a hardy people who are physically strong (enough to resist poison) and set in their ways, with the ancient Redguard religion prevalent throughout the province.

Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind

Vvardenfell (Morrowind)

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The first game, in my opinion, to really make its province "pop."

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Morrowind is home to the Dark Elves, and is chock full of extremely unique flora and fauna, such as tree-sized mushrooms, giant insects, and other alien-esque creatures. It has a fairly large amount of Dwemer (Dwarven) ruins in the area, and its religion is focused around the Tribunal, three gods who have a real, physical presence among the populace.

The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

Cyrodiil

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The imperial province, where the emperor resides smack dab in the center of Tamriel.

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When I think of Cyrodiil, I think of vast rolling plains, breathtaking sunrises, peaceful towns... and bandits, vampires, and GATES TO HELL. Cyrodiil is a geographically idyllic province that can be described as the most "vanilla" place in Tamriel, but I personally love its down-to-earth atmosphere. During the Oblivion crisis it was a particularly interesting place to be, as there were oblivion gates popping up everywhere... regardless, Cyrodiil is arguably the most important province, or one of them, due to it being the seat of the empire.

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

Skyrim

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The land of the Nords, located at the very roof of Tamriel, far to the north.

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When I think of Skyrim, I think of vikings, snow, and dragons. And that's basically what it is. It has its fair share of forests and plains, too, but it's mostly a wintery place, full of pine trees and ice and cold things. During the time of Skyrim (the game), it's also chock full of dragons.

Which was your personal favorite, and why?
 

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Morrowind, easily. Weird and alien. Plus an expansion featuring a Norse-inspired island with werewolves. It's a bit of a shame we only got the island of Vvardenfell, but it's still so cool and original. Plus all of the factions, branching storylines, etc. blow Oblivion and Skyrim out of the goddamn water.

Oblivion was a bit of a let down as they totally retconned the lore's version of Cyrodiil, which was a thick jungle, and turned it into a boring Western Fantasy version of Europe. Gee, we sure didn't have enough of that setting represented in role playing games. That said, Shivering Isles did help make up for the main game.
 

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I love Oblivion the most, but it's world isn't as well realized as Skyrim. Themes of racial superiority, discrimination, religion, first people's were some of the themes that really made Skyrim feel like a real place. Oblivion felt too naive, and unrealistic. I do looove oblivions world for it's novel high fantasy feel, just a different type than Skyrim. The world building of the TES games is really top class.

Thalmor - Elite Elves who believe themselves to be genetically superior to non elves, and engage in persecution of Nord faith (Talos)

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Grey Quarter - Where Dunmer refugees are subjected to live in ghetto's, and are looked down on by the Nords

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Forswarn - A mixed race of people who are native the the Rhineland. Engaging in guerrilla warfare, bandit raids, cult blood rituals.

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Falmer - A proud race of Snow Elves that used to rule modern day Skyrim, defeated by the Nords, then sought refugee underground from the Dwemer. Where then betrayed by the Dwemer, blinded, and enslaved. Become a mindless abomination of people who can no longer function as before.

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Imagine thinking Cyrodiil is the best when it's 95% grassy temperate forest.

Morrowind> Skyrim> Oblivion in terms of settings (and as games)
 

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Morrowind.

Just the fact it's so different from what you typically see still has me going back to play that one. Would love to go back one day in a future game (expansion?) and explore more of the actual continent.
 

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Skyrim. Love the winter atmosphere. Love pretty much everything about the setting except the spiders.
 

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Cyrodiil is a geographically idyllic province that can be described as the most "vanilla" place in Tamriel, but I personally love its down-to-earth atmosphere.
Same. I loved this very classic approach to basic fantasy. While Morrowind is beautiful, it was too wild and exotic to me.
I really loved the Oblivion sections of the game too. You're basically in Hell, and the game becomes an action game, I find it fun.

Cyrodiil's town are also my favorites out of Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim.

People are expecting TES VI to makes us explore High Rock once again based on the teaser, no ? Really excited for this.
 

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Oblivion due to the diversity, yeah it's generic fantasy but what is wrong with that? Snowy peaks, lush forests, hellish alternate dimension, everywhere you went was something new to discover, every town had its own style. And Shivering Isles, oh man that place was fantastic.

Skyrim was nothing but a sea of brown and white, nowhere was fun to explore because it all looked the same and featured the same boring enemies. I had to use a mod to turn the whole world into a snowy wonderland just to get through it. Can't comment much on Morrowind, I never played it but everything I've seen of it looks cramped and brown too.
 

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I don't know if it's simply because it was the first Elder Scrolls I played and therefore had the greatest impact, but I love Morrowind and its world the most. The variety of it, from the coastal eleven towns or strange volcanic caverns to the more traditional places like Balmora, makes it feel like a grand adventure. That sense is what I really crave for in an RPG.
 

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Oblivion barely wins out over Skyrim, but it's really because of how much it nailed *my own personal idea of* what classic fantasy worlds would look like.

I could picture myself existing in that world, and it being somewhat pleasant and cozy and adventurous, while Skyrim seems very harsh and cold and depressing. Both are a blast though.
 

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Cyrodiil. I loved all the green, lush landscape, and some regions being more colder or more mediterranean, like Continental Europe basically.

I'd love the/a next mainline Elder Scrolls to be set on the Summerset Isles though. They are just so beautiful and magical to me:

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I think it has to be Skyrim for me. The music in combination with the beautiful Nordic-inspired setting was breathtaking. It's a world I still immediately get immersed and lost in as soon as I boot it up.
 

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While I love Conan inspired Skyrim stuff and I like the feel of solitude and I just love Skyrim in general. Oblivion is my first choice , I just love high fantasy idyllic near peaceful portrayal of the world. I just love the lush green forests and hills . It just screams classic fantasy adventure and theres a sense that you could actually live there .
 

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Oblivion due to the diversity, yeah it's generic fantasy but what is wrong with that? Snowy peaks, lush forests, hellish alternate dimension, everywhere you went was something new to discover, every town had its own style. And Shivering Isles, oh man that place was fantastic.

Skyrim was nothing but a sea of brown and white, nowhere was fun to explore because it all looked the same and featured the same boring enemies. I had to use a mod to turn the whole world into a snowy wonderland just to get through it. Can't comment much on Morrowind, I never played it but everything I've seen of it looks cramped and brown too.

You do not remember either game very well then.
 

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Morrowind is the most unique. Cyrodiil the most pleasant with a traditional fantasy vibe and Skyrim is the most well realized world.

Personally, I find Morrowind boring. I'm not really big on something just because it looks unique/weird/alien. There are other qualities Morrowind has that the others don't.

I liked Cyrodiil/Oblivion the best when it came to the world design. Was just so peaceful and magical feeling. It hasn't aged well at all though (in fact none of them have. Skyrims world still looks pretty great though in the special edition).

It's a shame and quite frankly stupid how Bethesda has abandoned their biggest IP for what will likely be over 10 years.
 

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Cyrodil is so special to a lot of us because we had never played a game like that before. Emerging from the sewer the first time to see the world is absolutely a top 5 gaming moment for me, and I'm sure for a bunch of us.
 

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Cyrodiil is my favourite. It had some great towns (Cheydinhal is my favourite for aesthetic) and the lush, rural landscape was nice to explore.
 
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If we are talking settings it's Morrowind and it's not even close.
Mechanically I find all of them incredibly shallow, so it's hard to point a "favorite".
 

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It's Morrowind which is also the best setting in any RPG. You have the competing houses, fungal forests, plantations, marshland and ashlands. Then there's the Colonial push by the empire that gives some foreign flair that's not really found in Skyrim or Oblivion, I suppose Skyrim has a Dumer focused Solstheim while Morrowind's is more Nord oriented. Morrowind takes a bunch of familiar things and blends them together into something unique, love the mix of adobe architecture with more eastern influences found in Mournhold.

Balmora (Morrowind) is also my favorite town in the series, with Bruma (Oblivion) close behind.
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Morrowind, there's no other right answer.

We can argue about the second best one, in which case i'll say Cyrodiil in Oblivion. Perfect blend of an idyllic fantasy world and demonic invasions.
 

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Vvardenfell is so fucking strange. I love it. I love Oblivion but them going from the alien world of Morrowind to the high fantasy of Cyrodiil was lame as fuck. Skyrim just fucking sucks. Mountains that are a pain to traverse and snow. WOW.
 

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Morrowind/Vvardenfell, and it couldn't be any less decisive.

Cyrodiil is especially disappointing given how it was depicted prior to Oblivion changing it into a generic fantasy landscape.
 

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Great OP!

It's unfair from me considering I only played Oblivion and Skyrim, but Skyrim wins by far. I love the cold, snowy, cloudy settings in that game, helped by the much better graphics and effects. The more I think about it, I think The Reach is one of my favorite locations from how everything is put together, even if there's not much snow.

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The music was fantastic too, this one makes me think of running around The Reach, when suddenly, in the middle of the night, Auroras!


Oblivion I couldn't get much into.
 

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The music was fantastic too, this one makes me think of running around The Reach, when suddenly, in the middle of the night, Auroras!

If Bethesda doesn't bring back Soule for the OST of TES VI then they already fucked up.

I'd love the/a next mainline Elder Scrolls to be set on the Summerset Isles though. They are just so beautiful and magical to me:

It's Hammefell though. Which I'm personally excited for.
 
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Cyrodiil bores me to tears. It feels like the same setting as Two Worlds it's so generic.

Skyrim is often beautiful, and feels like a real place. I play most video games to explore places I never could in real life though, so the absolute winner has to be Morrowind.

Everything feels so alien and strange and the people all freaking hate you. All of it makes the eventual mastery of the space feel so rewarding. Another thing I think that works in Morrowind's favor is the diegetic fast-travel system. You really had to pay attention to the world to quickly navigate through it. This creates texture as there is a real different between location types and even regions. Boats are available on the coast, silt-striders in the less-developed regions, mage guild teleporters in the big cities, intervention spells took you straight to a temple, but you had to know which temple was closest to your location or you were going to end up in the wrong place. All of these systems overlapped and forced you to get to know each location.
 

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Morrowind definitely had the most interesting setting of the modern TES games.

I liked the ideas behind Skyrim's art direction but I'm personally not a fan of its execution in-game. Everything is way too gray and I'm not a huge fan of the architecture and armour design, all of it just looked way too boring. This is made even worse when combined with the general lack of variety in dungeon themes (caves, falmer caves, nordic ruins, dwarven ruins, and forts). I personally would have also preferred a bit more variety in terms of the province's regions (the pale, winterhold, and north eastmarch look a little too similar IMO). I also really wanted more snow covered forests and denser flora (the "forests" in vanilla skyrim were not nearly dense enough).

Cyrodiil in Oblivion is a little generic. Now, personally I don't think there's anything wrong with standard fantasy fare, it's just when combined the bad graphics tech used at the time and a world that often feel like it's procedurally generated, Cyrodiil is clearly less interesting than both Skyrim and Vvardenfell. The overwhelming bloom and often garish colors make the game a little painful to play at times and it's a real shame too since I think the actual art direction of Cyrodiil is actually nice, just brought down significantly by the technical limitations of the time. Modern attempts to remaster Cyrodiil by the skyrim modding community in mods such as Beyond Skyrim: Bruma, Skyblivion, and Vigilant (which remakes the imperial city albeit with a lot more sand, dust, and decay due to being in coldharbor) are a a lot more visually interesting than its depiction in the original game.

Arena and Daggerfall's setting are weird to critique since it's pretty clear that Tamriel as we know it today wasn't really set in stone back then. Tamriel in Arena was basically someone's homebrewed DnD setting based off of Greyhawk, with not a whole lot that was unique or novel. Daggerfall was a little better in this regard with a few unique elements such as Daedra instead of demons. Arena also improved by trying to give the Iliac Bay a somewhat more unique culture with region exclusive factions such as Knightly orders, political entities, and witch covens. Even then, the setting is still fairly similar to Arena and like that game shouldn't really be compared to later entries.

My personal ranking hat's just based on the vanilla games would go: Morrowind > Skyrim > Oblivion.
 

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Have to go with Skyrim for the mainline games.

Favourite area from ESO is Morrowind with a special nod to their excellent depiction of Coldharbour
 

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All of them! That's what ESO is for.

From the mainline series I enjoyed Cyrodiil the most. It's just cozy and it has the absolute best OST for exploring. The cities actually felt like cities too. Buying a house in Chorrol and making it my own was just good vibes all around.
 

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Skyrim, and it's not even close. Give me mountains, snow, and evergreens in every RPG and I'm happy for life.
 

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Vvardenfell/Morrowind for sure. It was also the last well written and truly interesting RPG from Bethesda. Since then it's been only downhill with Skyrim being a slight upwards tick, but still ultimately inferior to Morrowind in terms of lore and writing.
 

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While Morrowind is conceptually the best one, my favorite is Skyrim, because of the lovely winter setting, as well as just how well it realizes its world.