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Which FPS is more likely to come out this year, Black Ops 5 or Halo Infinite?

Which game has better odds of launching in 2020?

  • Black Ops 5

    Votes: 120 58.0%

  • Halo Infinite

    Votes: 87 42.0%
  • Total voters
    207
ItWasMeantToBe19

ItWasMeantToBe19

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Oct 26, 2017
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These are games that obviously their publisher does not want to delay at all. These are the major holiday releases for Activision and Microsoft and Microsoft has been hyping up Halo Infinite as the main launch title for Xbox Series X since e3 2019. However... it's looking not great for either. To summarize for both.

Black Ops 5: Started development late 2018/early 2019 after Sledgehammer Games was fired as a lead Call of Duty developer and thus will have a much shorter dev cycle than other games in the franchise. Probably aiming to release on PS5 and Xbox Series X (which Treyarch has never worked on) and might use the Modern Warfare 2019 engine (which I don't believe Treyarch has ever used before).

Halo Infinite: Been in development since 2015, but 343 lost top people pretty recently and there have been some murmurs of things not going that well. It's critical to get the quality of this game right as the series has been on a decline so Microsoft may not want to launch it in a heavily rushed state.

Now these games were already looking shaky before COVID-19 probably pushed the development of games back a month or two due to working from home. Which is more likely to hit this year?
 
EvilChameleon

EvilChameleon

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Oct 25, 2017
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I still think both will come out this "holiday season", especially since the launch of the XBOX Series X is irrelevant to Halo Infinite, since any XBOX One copy will be able to be played on the XBOX Series X the moment it launches.

However, if I had to pick one, it would be whatever Call Of Duty game we get this year. Activision sees this virus and laughs at it and demands their overworked and underpaid developers to get back to work, as Call Of Duty cannot miss a year, otherwise the monies go down!
 
Gundam

Gundam

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't even think Halo Infinite is real

I'd love to be proven wrong though
 
Skittles

Skittles

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Oct 25, 2017
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Black ops, both have significant dev problems. But acti has never delayed a cod game before
 

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Activision would rather push out a trash BO5 and maaaaybe fix it later than delay it because it is dependent on the yearly COD. Microsoft could afford to launch Halo Infinite piecemeal if necessary or just delay it outright.
 
¡Hip Hop!

¡Hip Hop!

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Nov 9, 2017
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Activision is a slave to shareholders. They never miss a year with COD. Black Ops 4 shipped without a campaign. The only reason they'd miss it is if the pandemic took far too many key devs away or their supply chain was heavily disrupted.

Halo Infinite is also likely to come out this year, with the pandemic being the main reason for a possible delay as well. I'd guess that if things got bad enough for Microsoft to delay the Series X to next year, they'd delay Halo as well.
 
defaltoption

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Oct 27, 2017
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I mean we all know Call of Duty doesn't really know what skipping a year means so its probably that but if Activision was smart they'd release MW2 remastered with multiplayer and continue support for MW/Warzone for this year instead and give the other teams more time on their games.

I don't think Halo will miss but its just more likely and a delay would be more beneficial to Microsoft then Activision because Activision will just sell millions no matter what then delete it with a new game a year later, Halo cant do that and it would affect their console platform.
 
TheXbox

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Black Ops might be rough, but at worst they will ship another multiplayer-only package and call it a day. Easier said than done, obviously, but I am 90% certain Activision will ship a new COD this year.

Halo... personally, it's hard for me to separate pragmatism from optimism, but I think they'd rather delay Infinite and get it right than ship another subpar entry. The series will not recover if it fails.
 
poklane

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Black Ops 5 (or whatever is called). If Activision doesn't release it they have no big CoD release for the year, shareholders would go insane.
 
ArchedThunder

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Oct 25, 2017
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Black Ops 5.
Activision will crunch the fuck out of the devs to make up any lost time, but 343 has said that they want to avoid crunch for Infinite.
I hope that WFH doesn't hurt productivity too much at 343 and we get Infinite this year though.
 
Proven

Proven

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Oct 29, 2017
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Lmao people are voting for a game that hasn't even been announced yet over a game that has already been announced and a release date. Never change.
 
cyrribrae

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There's still been no real evidence that there are any issues at 343. Besides rumors based on rumors based on things. Could be true. The bigger issue is that Seattle was hit hard by the virus and many studios were thrown off their game (not just 343, since I imagine there are plenty of contractors involved too). Hardware might be on track, but software is definitely impacted. SO the question is: how valuable is Halo to Xbox as a launch title vs not a launch title. I don't think there's any reason Halo MUST launch with Series X.

But all that said, I would still be surprised if they didn't make this year. I can't vote for the unannounced game.
 
Milennia

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Literally both will and i'll be surprised if i'm wrong
Of the two though it's halo I guess since it's a for sure launch alongside the console
 
skeezx

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a CoD-less year would be devastating to activision's balance sheet. but way this year is playing out it's just was well i suppose
 
Outrun

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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
.... and there have been some murmurs of things not going that well. It's critical to get the quality of this game right as the series has been on a decline so Microsoft may not want to launch it in a heavily rushed state.
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I need a link to these murmurs.

Also if it has been in development since 2015, how is this game rushed?
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19

ItWasMeantToBe19

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Triggerhappytel said:
Yep, ItWasMeantToBe19 can you please provide a link because this is the first I've heard of such rumours.
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www.resetera.com

PlayStation 5 page is up on all EU Playstation websites, "We're not quite ready to fully unveil the next generation of PlayStation"

I have heard from multiple people that Halo Infinite has had a long and rocky development cycle. (I broke the news that their CD left.) Of course, all of 343's Halo games had long and rocky development cycles.
www.resetera.com www.resetera.com

www.resetera.com

PlayStation 5 page is up on all EU Playstation websites, "We're not quite ready to fully unveil the next generation of PlayStation"

I'll be curious to see if Halo actually makes it. On one hand console launch games can't get delayed. On the other hand, games that lose their creative directors midway through development aren't exactly going through the most stable productions.
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Ricky

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I think if Series X gets delayed, Halo will also get delayed. I don't think we get one without the other.
 
--R

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Both of those games are going to release this year.
 
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Snake Eater

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Activision isn't going to upset the stockholders, a COD game will release, simple as that. Halo is meaningless to MS in the grand scheme of things by comparison
 
Prine

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Halo is tied to XSX release.

But I think XSX will launch this year, so it's definitely coming out.
 
ArchedThunder

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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
www.resetera.com

PlayStation 5 page is up on all EU Playstation websites, "We're not quite ready to fully unveil the next generation of PlayStation"

I have heard from multiple people that Halo Infinite has had a long and rocky development cycle. (I broke the news that their CD left.) Of course, all of 343's Halo games had long and rocky development cycles.
www.resetera.com www.resetera.com

www.resetera.com

PlayStation 5 page is up on all EU Playstation websites, "We're not quite ready to fully unveil the next generation of PlayStation"

I'll be curious to see if Halo actually makes it. On one hand console launch games can't get delayed. On the other hand, games that lose their creative directors midway through development aren't exactly going through the most stable productions.
www.resetera.com www.resetera.com
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The actual development lead didn't leave, the creative director wasn't the one in charge.
 
Ra

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The question is, if Halo is ready in 2020, but COVID-19 delays the XSX to 2021, will they release Halo on the current-gen consoles in 2020?
 
bsigg

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Infinite is releasing day and date with the Series X. They won't miss that.
 
ArchedThunder

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With the Halo Infinite radio silence don't forget that Microsoft did the exact same thing with Gears 5. E3 cinematic trailer, a year of radio silence and then the E3 of the release year was the start of the marketing cycle proper.
I still think Halo Infinite has a good chance of being delayed, but more because of COVID-19.
 
Triggerhappytel

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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
www.resetera.com

PlayStation 5 page is up on all EU Playstation websites, "We're not quite ready to fully unveil the next generation of PlayStation"

I have heard from multiple people that Halo Infinite has had a long and rocky development cycle. (I broke the news that their CD left.) Of course, all of 343's Halo games had long and rocky development cycles.
www.resetera.com www.resetera.com

www.resetera.com

PlayStation 5 page is up on all EU Playstation websites, "We're not quite ready to fully unveil the next generation of PlayStation"

I'll be curious to see if Halo actually makes it. On one hand console launch games can't get delayed. On the other hand, games that lose their creative directors midway through development aren't exactly going through the most stable productions.
www.resetera.com www.resetera.com
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Fair enough, although they seem like fairly general comments and he doesn't go into specifics. I mean, you could also say that there are rumours of things not going well at Naughty Dog and TLoU2 possibly suffering, but this seems to happen to them every time and their games always turn out superb.
 

Chille

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Doesn't Halo infinite have a half billion dollar budget or was that bullshit? If so MS will want it out to make money back on project asap
 
Shpeshal Nick

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Halo is announced and has a release window alongside a new console

Black Ops doesn't technically exist and Modern Warfare is doing incredibly well. They could release more content for that.
 
Scottoest

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If Halo got delayed, it'll be because the console itself got delayed. There's no chance they let their single biggest launch title, and what will probably be one of the focal points of their marketing in the run-up to launch, slip that date.

The game will have been in development for five years.
 
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