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Which franchise is more personal to you: The MCU or Star Wars?
- Thread starter Puck Beaverton
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MCU for me despite getting started on Star Wars almost a decade earlier. Recently I realized that, as much as I love the idea of Star Wars, very little of it is actually well executed. MCU, on the other hand, has been solid from the jump and has arguably surpassed the comics in some ways.
I came to Star Wars late but grew to love it, so much that the real Star Wars for me are the stories my friends and I created in online text-based role play rooms. Therefore the newer films could be shit-covered shit and I wouldn't care. So I don't care as much as all the Star Wars fans that are raging out there. I mostly enjoy the new films and am not bothered by anything but the quality of each film.
The Marvel stuff is a bunch of mostly fun films that I don't care for beyond the first watch. I guess it's because I never got into comic stuff - comics for me were The Beano and Whizzer and Chips from when I was young, and I was very surprised to learn later on that there were comics that adults loved. I was aware of Judge Dredd from a family friend but the art didn't interest me (and it was mostly in black white iirc) so I never read them.
The Marvel stuff is a bunch of mostly fun films that I don't care for beyond the first watch. I guess it's because I never got into comic stuff - comics for me were The Beano and Whizzer and Chips from when I was young, and I was very surprised to learn later on that there were comics that adults loved. I was aware of Judge Dredd from a family friend but the art didn't interest me (and it was mostly in black white iirc) so I never read them.
For some reason Star Wars just never hooked me. To be fair, the Star Wars of my childhood was the prequel trilogy which probably didn't help.
On the other hand, I'm currently not able to sleep from excitement about seeing Endgame twice in a row tomorrow for the premier. I was the perfect age to really fall in love with them when Iron Man first came out and to be honest, always having a next Marvel movie to look forward to on the horizon has really helped me get through what has been an emotionally and mentally difficult time these last few years. So it's a bit of an unfair fight.
On the other hand, I'm currently not able to sleep from excitement about seeing Endgame twice in a row tomorrow for the premier. I was the perfect age to really fall in love with them when Iron Man first came out and to be honest, always having a next Marvel movie to look forward to on the horizon has really helped me get through what has been an emotionally and mentally difficult time these last few years. So it's a bit of an unfair fight.
Mobile Suit Gundam.
But being for real I guess Marvel though only slightly. I actually dont care that much for either franchise besides a few aspects.
For the MCU it's the Guardians movies, Iron Man 1, and Cap 2.
For Star Wars it's both 'Clone Wars' cartoon shows, Rogue One, and some nostalgia for Revenge of the Sith (plus memes).
But being for real I guess Marvel though only slightly. I actually dont care that much for either franchise besides a few aspects.
For the MCU it's the Guardians movies, Iron Man 1, and Cap 2.
For Star Wars it's both 'Clone Wars' cartoon shows, Rogue One, and some nostalgia for Revenge of the Sith (plus memes).
Star Wars trilogy by a landslide. MCU has some great individual movies but as a whole and their group based movies are not nearly as good.
Star Wars because I grew up with it but pass the trilogy, the MCU is better in almost everything
Star Wars at one point but it's almost dead to me now. I've never been as down or depressed on it as I am now.
I'm actually excited for Marvel.
I'm actually excited for Marvel.
Born in 89 plus I'm black. Didn't even watch a Star Wars until I was grown.
Black panther means more to me then all of Star Wars.
Black panther means more to me then all of Star Wars.
I'd say Marvel has WAY more great films than the Star Wars series (not sure if any touch Empire or Last Jedi in overall film quality but some have come close), but the originals are classics and a big part of my childhood. Gonna have to go with SW on this one.
Star Wars easily, probably only because I saw those films when I was young vs MCU in late teens. I have very fond memories of watching the OT re-releases in theatres in the late 90s with my family. Don't really care much about the new trilogy (though I did like TLJ).
I don't watch most MCU films in theatres. Most of them are forgettable.
Oh and I love the KoToR games. They really expanded the SW universe in wonderful ways. That also probably is the reason for my preference of Star Wars.
But I was also never generally into comics as a kid outside of Batman: TAS. That and Raimi Spiderman films are maybe the only comic book things I really care about. I do like the MCU films but just don't really connect with them.
I don't watch most MCU films in theatres. Most of them are forgettable.
Oh and I love the KoToR games. They really expanded the SW universe in wonderful ways. That also probably is the reason for my preference of Star Wars.
But I was also never generally into comics as a kid outside of Batman: TAS. That and Raimi Spiderman films are maybe the only comic book things I really care about. I do like the MCU films but just don't really connect with them.
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It's Star Wars for me, but the games were deeply tied to that. Dark Forces, Jedi Knight, Kotor etc. I'm glad I got to experience the best of SW though.
Marvel by far.
Star Wars means absolutely nothing to me. I'm 27, so the OT released well before my time, and despite catching up on them as a kid...they just didn't stand out compared to many of the other films I had already seen by that point. And then the Prequel Trilogy started and I was old enough to recognize how poor they were, on top of already having a general apathy towards Jedi and Sith. I had so little interest in the IP that I never even bothered playing any of the licensed games. Not even KOTOR.
And then there's the Sequel Trilogy. Eek! The first one was a bland retread that felt overly familiar, and the less said about The Last Jedi, the better. Other than Rey's parents being nobodies, I thoroughly disliked pretty much everything about it.
I'm honestly pretty confused as to how Star Wars managed to retain it's grip on pop culture. Is it especially huge in America? I grew up in the UK and Australia, and it just...never really felt like a big deal from my POV. Maybe it's just my bubble, but nobody mentioned it at school. The prequels didn't seem popular even with other kids at the time. I have no idea how Disney managed to get my generation to view seeing these films as almost a cultural obligation.
Star Wars means absolutely nothing to me. I'm 27, so the OT released well before my time, and despite catching up on them as a kid...they just didn't stand out compared to many of the other films I had already seen by that point. And then the Prequel Trilogy started and I was old enough to recognize how poor they were, on top of already having a general apathy towards Jedi and Sith. I had so little interest in the IP that I never even bothered playing any of the licensed games. Not even KOTOR.
And then there's the Sequel Trilogy. Eek! The first one was a bland retread that felt overly familiar, and the less said about The Last Jedi, the better. Other than Rey's parents being nobodies, I thoroughly disliked pretty much everything about it.
I'm honestly pretty confused as to how Star Wars managed to retain it's grip on pop culture. Is it especially huge in America? I grew up in the UK and Australia, and it just...never really felt like a big deal from my POV. Maybe it's just my bubble, but nobody mentioned it at school. The prequels didn't seem popular even with other kids at the time. I have no idea how Disney managed to get my generation to view seeing these films as almost a cultural obligation.
Star Wars. I grew up with it. Hell we nicknamed our team's center (basketball) in highschool Vader.
I read Marvel comics as a kid and later after college, but it changed so often it didn't have any meaningful relevance. The movies have been great but they kind of all run together. Meanwhile each Star Wars release is like a touchstone.
I read Marvel comics as a kid and later after college, but it changed so often it didn't have any meaningful relevance. The movies have been great but they kind of all run together. Meanwhile each Star Wars release is like a touchstone.
5 years ago I would've said Star Wars. But episode 7 and 8 really took them down a peg for me.
And Cap 2,3 and Infinity War are 3 of my favorite movies now. So I have to go with MCU.
And Cap 2,3 and Infinity War are 3 of my favorite movies now. So I have to go with MCU.
I think as the years go on that Star Wars numbers will get lower since they weren't able to produce something that comes close to the quality of the original films so far, unlike the Marvel films which got better and better with no ceiling in sight yet.
But since both belong to Disney now, they probably don't care from which brand we buy merchandise...
But since both belong to Disney now, they probably don't care from which brand we buy merchandise...
I've grown up with the MCU, so that. I'm not nearly as attached to them as I used to be, though.
I had Star Wars put upon me as a kid, and I even thought I liked it for a few years. Then, after The Force Awakens, I finally admitted to myself that I can't stand Star Wars and that I had no obligation to myself or anyone else to keep engaging with it.
I had Star Wars put upon me as a kid, and I even thought I liked it for a few years. Then, after The Force Awakens, I finally admitted to myself that I can't stand Star Wars and that I had no obligation to myself or anyone else to keep engaging with it.
I do not agree at all. For example I think the Last Jedi is better than every MCU film to date (and I love the MCU) and up there with Empire Strikes Back. Obviously not everyone agrees, but enough do feel TLJ is the best if not one of the best for it to fuel the interest and discussion for a long, long time.
I would agree if everything of the new era was safe and nostalgic like TFA but TLJ is one of the most impactful blockbusters of the past 30 years. Hell, just look at the endless discussion going for nearly 2 years at this point. That film alone was a loud statement in support of Star Wars remaining special.
Both MCU and Star Wars will remain massive and significant film franchises for decades.
I mean James Bond is still going for nearly 60 years at this point.
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As far as personal goes...neither really. Like them both but neither are really that important for me, though I actually am very fond of the prequels because of memes and some good times I've spent(and still do) joking about them and finding myself actually enjoying them with friends.
Harry Potter is what I'm actually attached to.
Harry Potter is what I'm actually attached to.
I think you mistake controversy for cultural relevance. And that controversy only happened because it's part of Star Wars. If that wouldn't have been the case it would've been critized as the promising but flawed movie it is and it would've been forgotten by now.
Also James Bond doesn't add to your point because the franchise only survived until now because it constantly modernized itself. Imagine if the newer movies tried to bank on nostalgia as hard as Star Wars tried to do. It would be a shitshow.
TLJ DID modernize Star Wars. That is part of why so many who just want nostalgia reacted so drastically. And saying it is a flawed movie that would be forgotten otherwise....doesn't hold up at all against the rave critical reception it received.
Star Wars. I fell in love with the originals as a child, saw the 90s re-release in the cinema, then the prequels and now the sequels. They are so influential and have such powerful storytelling elements. They are decent films on their own right, Empire for example ranks high in countless lists of "greatest movies ever". They've pioneered so many elements of filmmaking from outstanding special effects in the 70s to filming digitally. There is no comparison to the MCU.
Neither, they're both kinda low down on my list, still watch the movies when they come out though. Other than that I have loved other series more like Firefly, Battlestar Galactica, The Expanse, Transmetropolitan when it comes to comic books etc.
What is most personal though is Warhammer 40.000
In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, everything is goddamn awful for everyone and I fuckin' love that. Here and there you can read the stories of those who try to make things better though and that gives hope. And even then there is no real "good vs. evil", some are only slightly more rationale and not as insane/mindless as others (Tau/Imperium/Eldar vs. Tyranids for example), everything moves around in a grayscale of horrible and that makes it very interesting. Plus the Emperor of 40K is way more awesome than the Emperor of Star Wars, and the God Emperor is dead.
What is most personal though is Warhammer 40.000
In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, everything is goddamn awful for everyone and I fuckin' love that. Here and there you can read the stories of those who try to make things better though and that gives hope. And even then there is no real "good vs. evil", some are only slightly more rationale and not as insane/mindless as others (Tau/Imperium/Eldar vs. Tyranids for example), everything moves around in a grayscale of horrible and that makes it very interesting. Plus the Emperor of 40K is way more awesome than the Emperor of Star Wars, and the God Emperor is dead.
Pre-Disney, Star Wars was a strong part of my childhood. Now? I couldn't care. I haven't felt invested in the new saga one bit. While I can't say the Marvel movies hold a stronger connection with me, I have been enjoying them more than the current SW stuff.
Marvel doesn't really do much for me. They're okay. But, I'd trade them all away for more Nolan Super flicks.
STAR WARS, on the other hand, is LIFE.
STAR WARS, on the other hand, is LIFE.
