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Now it's time to vote on the sequels. Adding poll.
Now it's time to vote on the sequels. Adding poll.
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Which is best? Dragon Quest 2, Final Fantasy 2 (JP), Phantasy Star 2
- Thread starter Phediuk
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Final Fantasy 2. DQ2 is too hard for it's own good; not even the battles necessarily but the hidden items are very cryptic. PS2 has awful dungeons and is a bit of a boring slog though the story is fantastic. FF2 is actually really fun to play with if you get invested in the mechanics and the story and scope of the adventure hits the spot.
I didn't like Phantasy Star II as much as the original, and it had some really annoying dungeons. Still, I really enjoyed its dark atmosphere, characters, soundtrack, and battles. I found it a much more memorable experience than the other games in the poll.
Haven't played DQ2, but between FF2 and PS2, I'd go with PS2. I didn't particularly love either of them though.
Easily Phantasy Star 2. I'm one of those weird people who love FF2(famicom), but even I voted PS2
Dragon Quest 2 just because I remember everything about it and it's had plenty of remakes that fix its issues.
DQ2 definitely. Besides hard difficulty being more of a feature than a bug for me, it also had the superior map design over the other two and better gameplay.
I agree, but...
For Number 4 it is
PS4>DQ4>FF4
imo. While Phantasy Star 3 was a big step back compared to PS2, Phantasy Star 4 rivals (and in my eyes surpasses) the very best 16 bit jrpgs.
I haven't played the Phantasy Star series at all, I really like DQ II (well the remakes), but I think I gotta give it to FFII. I feel the ambitious for it's time story and characters really edge it out, though I just ADORE the DQ2 trio.
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Now this one is way harder
Only thing i'm sure is "definitely not Dragon Quest II". Despite being a buggy mess FF2 is somewhat endearing and it took a lot of liberties in both mechanics and storytelling - it was FFIV before FFIV came and became praised all around. Phantasy Star II i remember very little, but what i remember was pretty fun.
Only thing i'm sure is "definitely not Dragon Quest II". Despite being a buggy mess FF2 is somewhat endearing and it took a lot of liberties in both mechanics and storytelling - it was FFIV before FFIV came and became praised all around. Phantasy Star II i remember very little, but what i remember was pretty fun.
Probably FF2 (though I'm biased on that since I have the game's mechanics more or less memorized).
The Battle System while goofy as all hell, does eventually give us the SaGa games, and the Story itself is surprisingly dark.
That said, it's still very much a flawed game.
DQ2...the original version is a pretty difficult game. (Also, the Cave to Rhone was a special kind of hell.)
Probably my least favorite DQ that I've played.
As for PS2...I've only played a little bit of it, so I'm probably not qualified to say much about it.
The Battle System while goofy as all hell, does eventually give us the SaGa games, and the Story itself is surprisingly dark.
By the game's end, more than 3/4 of the world's population is annihilated thanks to the Cyclone, and then the Emperor manages to defeat the Devil himself in death and raise Hell/Pandemonium into the World. Shit gets a bit nutty. Oh, and Party Members stayed dead...unlike FF4.
DQ2...the original version is a pretty difficult game. (Also, the Cave to Rhone was a special kind of hell.)
Probably my least favorite DQ that I've played.
As for PS2...I've only played a little bit of it, so I'm probably not qualified to say much about it.
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Reminds me of the 90s when emulation wasn't as easy. Download .txt walkthrough on computer on on room, then go to the other room where the game and cosole are,, then return to the computer room to double-check something, then back to the game, repeat ad infinitum.
Lufia II
Mother 2 (i.e., Earthbound)
Shin Megami Tensei II
Shadow Hearts 2
But Suikoden is better than the poll options, for sure.
I completed PS2 a month or two back and I was planning on making a thread about the 4 main games since I've played them all now, and well I voted for PS2 since as much as I love Dragon Quest, I really loved PS2 - the music, graphic style it was everything I wanted from a sequel to the first game except for the lack of 3D dungeons. I've never been huge on FF, it feels a bit dry for me, I love the saturated worlds of PS and DQ.
Phantasy Star 2 is a pretty bad RPG with some memorable characters and a cool setting. Those dungeons are simply unpleasant. It feels almost duct taped together compared to 1 and 4 being so polished.
Final Fantasy 2 has a great setting and everything else is weird and unbalanced.
Dragon Quest 2 is probably the best of these but it's also easily the worst mainline Dragon Quest game. It doesn't do anything especially badly, it's just inconsistent difficulty-wise and in the original version this could really catch you off guard in a way that wasn't particularly fun. DQ isn't like Wizardry where you go in expecting to get ganked.
Rough time for RPG sequels! Although sequels in general were really all over the place during this era, with some of them being complete reboots almost entirely unrelated in gameplay to the previous game, while others were essentially really difficult expansion packs to the original game.
I dunno... I assume you're talking about PS3. Which shouldn't have ever been a Phantasy Star game. But honestly I think it's a much more enjoyable game than PS2.
And it'll absolutely deserve it compared to the likes of FF3 and especially DQ3! PS4 deserves to come out ahead again, though. It might be one of the best RPGs of that whole era, easily on that venerated Chrono Trigger tier.
Final Fantasy 2 has a great setting and everything else is weird and unbalanced.
Dragon Quest 2 is probably the best of these but it's also easily the worst mainline Dragon Quest game. It doesn't do anything especially badly, it's just inconsistent difficulty-wise and in the original version this could really catch you off guard in a way that wasn't particularly fun. DQ isn't like Wizardry where you go in expecting to get ganked.
Rough time for RPG sequels! Although sequels in general were really all over the place during this era, with some of them being complete reboots almost entirely unrelated in gameplay to the previous game, while others were essentially really difficult expansion packs to the original game.
I dunno... I assume you're talking about PS3. Which shouldn't have ever been a Phantasy Star game. But honestly I think it's a much more enjoyable game than PS2.
And it'll absolutely deserve it compared to the likes of FF3 and especially DQ3! PS4 deserves to come out ahead again, though. It might be one of the best RPGs of that whole era, easily on that venerated Chrono Trigger tier.
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There's a reason for that:
http://shmuplations.com/phantasystarii/
Granted, Dragon Quest 2 was created in about the same amount of time, though that was at least on the same hardware.
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Would vote DQ2 for its remake which is actually good due to its QoL improvements but I know the NES version is terrible so it's not really fair.
FF2 tried something different with its battle system and birthed the SaGa series in the process. So I'm going with that.
I got PS2 and 3 at the same time. PS2 was just a grindfest. PS3 was much more enjoyable and the game that really got me into JRPGs.
I never knew about this. I chalked up a lot of its inconsistent graphics and overall design to being an early Mega Drive/Genesis game, turns out there was a bit more to it than that. Really illuminating.
The degree of hate for PS III has always been ridiculous to me. It received mostly great reviews at the time.