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Which movie will do better at the box office- Toy Story 4 or Pokemon: Detective Pikachu?
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So Detective Pikachu is going to be near Infinity War or Star Wars The Force Awakens?
Pokemon is going to be huge. But those doubting Toy Story are likely going to feel a little silly.
Toy Story 3 was the most successful Pixar movie ever until just this year with Incredibles 2. TS4 is a nearly guaranteed $1b film.
Toy Story 3 was the most successful Pixar movie ever until just this year with Incredibles 2. TS4 is a nearly guaranteed $1b film.
There's no losers here, both will be successful, but I think TS4 will top 900mil, and Pikachu north of a 1.1 billion
I know people already expect the Detective Pikachu movie to do "good", but people are really really REALLY understating the brand recognition of Pikachu and Pokemon, especially in foreign markets
You mean the best in the series Toy Story 3 at 98% on RottenTomatoes?
You are in the teeniest tiniest minority on that one.
As of right now, I don't see how TS4 doesn't take it. Unless it's a huge flop critically or something.
Detective Pikachu has a good presence online, but I'm not sure that'll translate to the box office. I can't seem to find any tracking numbers, so that might change my mind.
But, if I had to guess, I'm going to go with TS4 beating Detective Pikachu handily given all the things in favor of one and not the other. Including that DP is launching a couple of weeks after what is likely going to be the biggest movie of 2019.
Detective Pikachu has a good presence online, but I'm not sure that'll translate to the box office. I can't seem to find any tracking numbers, so that might change my mind.
But, if I had to guess, I'm going to go with TS4 beating Detective Pikachu handily given all the things in favor of one and not the other. Including that DP is launching a couple of weeks after what is likely going to be the biggest movie of 2019.
I mean, GTA4 has a 98% on metacritic that don't mean people like it.
Either way, I don't think people are going to be lining up for yet another formulaic Toy Story movie. Can't wait to see how they make Buzz Lightyear forget he's a toy again!
Yeah people are regularly conflating the idea that pokemon is well known with pokemon makes the most money. 00s peak pokemon movies performed like trash riding on a huge wave of various media successes.
Pokemon Go alone has made the IP relevant in a way it wasn't before + its not anime so I exepect it to do better than the previous 5 movies combined easy though.
Everyone is down on Toy Story so a better comparison would be Avengers v Pikachu since they're daring to release in the wake of peak Avengers.
Realistically, Toy Story 4. I think Incredibles 2 showed us that a long awaited sequel made by Pixar, even an average one, is going to dominate the BO.
But I want Pikachu to win because it looks great, so it got my vote ;)
But I want Pikachu to win because it looks great, so it got my vote ;)
I don't understand how people are still doubting that Detective Pikachu is in the same ballpark as TS4.
Not only does Detective Pikachu generate more discussions and interest online than Toy Story does, it's also overwhelmingly positive.
Toy Story is going to make money, don't get me wrong, but the reception to the movie so far is mixed with many unsure whether or not they're going to watch it. That would be a basically a death sentence for most other movies. If it weren't for the quality and the nostalgia for the previous 3 movies, it would be a certain victory for Pikachu. But as of right now, no one knows where this new entry will land and it still hasn't convinced people. Hell, after the trailer for Frozen 2 dropped it was like all discussions about Toy Story 4 disappeared.
This will be closer than some are willing to admit
Not only does Detective Pikachu generate more discussions and interest online than Toy Story does, it's also overwhelmingly positive.
Toy Story is going to make money, don't get me wrong, but the reception to the movie so far is mixed with many unsure whether or not they're going to watch it. That would be a basically a death sentence for most other movies. If it weren't for the quality and the nostalgia for the previous 3 movies, it would be a certain victory for Pikachu. But as of right now, no one knows where this new entry will land and it still hasn't convinced people. Hell, after the trailer for Frozen 2 dropped it was like all discussions about Toy Story 4 disappeared.
This will be closer than some are willing to admit
Do you mean hype with the general public aswell as on forums or social media? Star Wars TFA and Infinity War appealed to a very wide demographic young and old.
Complete trainwreck, one of the most disappointing movies of all time.
Some of y'all don't realize how well Detective Pikachu is gonna do. It's gonna be massive. But Toy Story will also be massive. So just like the poll, I think it'll be a toss up.
I mean, to each their own. That's quite the uncommon opinion. :P
Pretty much this, I think Toy Story 4 wins in the us market but Pikachu wins globally.
I think people will be very surprised at how well Toy Story 4 will do.
Detective Pikachu will do well for sure, but I really don't think it's going to do as well as people on here seem to think.
But this is all speculation, who knows what will actually happen. It all depends on how word spreads upon release.
Detective Pikachu will do well for sure, but I really don't think it's going to do as well as people on here seem to think.
But this is all speculation, who knows what will actually happen. It all depends on how word spreads upon release.
Yes, I've seen people with only a vague sense of what Pokemon is and excited for it in non internet circles.
detective pikachu has snakes on a plane vibe. i don't think it will end up eating shit like snakes, but i don't see it being a massive global hit, either.
I don't think people are underestimating Detective Pikachu as much as they are underestimating Toy Story. Both will make bank, but claiming that Pikachu is going to make over 1.5 billion or even just over a billion are straight up delusional.
Because it's an unproven Hollywood movie IP. Who know how general audiences will react after the first weekend in a crowded month. It could do extremely well, but unlike Toy Story 4, we don't have any prior movie box office records to compare it too. We could compare it to the first Pokemon movie, but that would only be to its detriment.
In Hollywood's eyes, Detective Pikachu might as well be a brand new IP.
I think I'm skeptical of Toy Story because I've been hearing a lot of general word of mouth about it not needing a sequel, but also established IPs aren't the sure fire successes studios are hoping for them to be. The Lego Movie 2 performed well below expectations, and How To Train Your Dragon 3 is doing alright, but it's showing worse legs than the original. Toy Story is a strong brand, but 3 was heavily marketed as a conclusion and "what happens when Andy grows up and the toys have to deal with that?" That's a compelling premise. All the new one seems to be conveying is "Hey, Bo Peep is back!" I just... don't have a desire to see it in theaters unless it turns out to be something especially great.
I'll have a better idea once TS's marketing ramps up and we get a proper trailer. The new character teasers have been more baffling than anything IMO.
We'll see. Judging from what Tom Hanks said and that poster. I think we're getting a different movie than what's being marketed. And hey do you know what else was a different movie than what was being marketed... Frozen... which went on to be the biggest thing Disney has made barring Marvel and Star Wars.
I think Infinity War, Star Wars, Lion King, and possibly Frozen 2 are all guaranteed $1B films. Toy Story and Pikachu are going compete for that last spot in the top 5 on the global chart.
What's also worth noting is that two weeks into Pikachu's run, Aladdin hits theaters - which may hurt its legs. Comparatively, Toy Story 4 is essentially the only animated release for all of July AND August. That could absolutely inflate the numbers just due to a lack of competition.
What's also worth noting is that two weeks into Pikachu's run, Aladdin hits theaters - which may hurt its legs. Comparatively, Toy Story 4 is essentially the only animated release for all of July AND August. That could absolutely inflate the numbers just due to a lack of competition.
Toy Story 3 was fucking huge and was an insane critical/commercial success. Don't be ridiculous. The main issue would be that TS3 sent the franchise off too well.
I've been bitching about the existence of a new toy story since it was announced but I'll be there to see it.
Pikachu is an undetermined market. We are going to need to get closer to release before silly polls like this. Meanwhile Toy Story 3 is a billion.
Let's close this thread.
Let's close this thread.
That's fair, and the movie may surprise. But I think a large part of the draw of 3 was that Andy was basically a perfect stand in for the people who watched Toy Story as a kid and then grew up. That's a powerful connection to the story and you want to get that closure through him. Without that, it just feels like Toy Story is now just an ongoing franchise, and nothing feels particularly special about this movie as opposed to Toy Story 5 and so on.
Toy Story, but I am way more excited to see Pikachu. I want to see how nightmarish those Pokemon can be when done for live action.
I think Detective Pikachu will do well, but Toy Story has a much broader audience appeal but what the fuck do I know.
What movie would I rather see? Pikachu.
What movie is going to make insane amounts of money? TS4.
What movie is going to make insane amounts of money? TS4.
