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Wait, White Lives Matter is now nazi? or are you giving me an example?

Shit dude, the article, maybe?

Protesters: League of the South, joined by affiliate groups the National Socialist Movement, Traditionalist Worker Party, Vanguard America, all sometimes collectively known as the Nationalist Front, all classified by the Southern Poverty Law Center as white nationalist and white supremacist groups.
 

Ms. Virion

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It's kinda is doxxing imo because you are gather their info by digging for their pictures. Now you're trying to suggest that "it's ok, if their nazis!". No, you'll only instigate more anger and justify their actions. Having debates and discussing topics would be much better than doxxing.

I am genuinely curious what debate you think you're going to have with white supremacists that is going to change their mind on their stances.
 

Watershed

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I'm genuinely curious to see how this new forum handles disingenuous posters, people who put on an act, pretend like they are "just sharing their opinion" who "want to learn" and then reject any knowledge or evidence that is presented to them.
 

Darryl M R

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What did you type into to find this video? How did you discover it during your search?

I'm genuinely curious to see how this new forum handles disingenuous posters, people who put on an act, pretend like they are "just sharing their opinion" who "want to learn" and then reject any knowledge or evidence that is presented to them.

I hope the forum team is up to the task of being consistent on disingenuous posters. Once again these posters refuse to learn on a topic, and would probably say, "If you have a different opinion you will get dogpiled. I didn't feel like I could post on that forum" when they have shown that they are unwilling to post in good faith and have a contextualized discussion.
 

salyonara

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TaterTots

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I did my research and I also found out that some of them said on television "Kill White kids"

I've seen certain charters of BLM talking about wanting dead cops and having white people march in the back. However, you're making the same mistake a lot of others do. You pulled out your broad brush and painted everyone the same. That's a dangerous ideology.
 

Clawbvious

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In the interest of acting in good faith, here are a few books that are useful to read when learning about systemic racism in America.

I would recommend Black Looks: Race and Representation By Bell Hooks, The New Jim Crow By Michelle Alexander, The Fire Next Time By James Baldwin, and White Like Me by Tim Wise.

Obviously this isn't an exhaustive list, but it's a good starting place for examining why racism is built into the foundation of America and what it means for people who don't benefit from white privilege.
 

Darryl M R

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The interesting things with trolls is that they truly think they are getting an arise out of people. Hell I get entertained watching someone reveal themselves to be disingenuous. Because it is one more example why you don't give people that will say "Black Lives Matter is a terrorist group" a chance to make another post.

It's another example that for minorities a forum being inclusive and positive is a forum that highlights and shuns ignorance in all forms no matter how veiled.
 
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The interesting things with trolls is that they truly think they are getting an arise out of people. Hell I get entertained watching someone reveal themselves to be disingenuous. Because it is one more example why you don't give people that will say "Black Lives Matter is a terrorist group" a chance to make another post.

It's another example that for minorities a forum being inclusive and positive is a forum that highlights and shuns ignorance in all forms no matter how veiled.
Oh I can tell he's just being an ass trying to get a rise out of us.

But that's some petty childish shit to do. It's almost worse than just being an ignorant racist.
 

Watershed

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I've already used the report feature in this thread. As a new forum we must have a clear policy for "trolls" who are basically disingenuous posters clearly not interested in honest conversation or learning. The history of "trolls" trying to rile people up with thinly veiled bigotry is well-documented enough to not be tolerated on ResetEra.
 

SFLUFAN

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I've already used the report feature in this thread. As a new forum we must have a clear policy for "trolls" who are basically disingenuous posters clearly not interested in honest conversation or learning. The history of "trolls" trying to rile people up with thinly veiled bigotry is well-documented enough to not be tolerated on ResetEra.

Thoroughly agreed - I did the same as well.
 

Darryl M R

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I hope mods do not hesitate to make a pinned thread discussing people making threads in bad faith or posting in bad faith. If someone is showing that they are unwilling to educate themselves when presented with factual information or even acknowledge the factual information in front of them they are not here to engage with the community but to talk past people.

I see pinned threads about being nice to each other and positivity but I'm waiting for the thread that addresses people trying to be sly by ignoring and insulting marginalized groups through thinly veiled racism and bigotry.

And does anyone know if a post is reported multiple times it receives a banner? I definitely used the feature in this thread.
 

salyonara

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Oct 27, 2017
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This is the last thing I post here in Off topic, I never supported the [Race] rally, but some of you are calling me a Racist without any reason. Goodnight
 

Fat4all

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I always enjoy the "IM HERE TO FUCK WITH YOU AND THEN ANNOUNCE IM LEAVING THE THREAD" kind of posters because they always make it too obvious.
 

Dog of Bork

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This is the last thing I post here in Off topic, I never supported the [Race] rally, but some of you are calling me a Racist without any reason. Goodnight
When you post disingenuously or in bad faith, expect to be called out. If you'd bother explaining your position or answering any number of posts without deflection, you're welcome to. You'll notice many people tried to discuss with you in good faith before you "gave up" on the conversation.

Expect to discuss and defend your controversial opinions. You're welcome to have them and discuss them, but if you can't be bothered to defend your statements don't bother repeating them. Constant deflection and pivoting to new topics doesn't make for good conversation.
 
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This is the last thing I post here in Off topic, I never supported the [Race] rally, but some of you are calling me a Racist without any reason. Goodnight
No we're calling you a disingenuous ass. Some might have called you racist before it was clear you were just trying to get a rise out of us. Now you're just an ass.
 

Watershed

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Well the mods already banned one poster from this thread. To the mods, thank you for providing an explanation and a chance for the poster to change their posting behavior in the future, I agree with this approach. I hope you take a close look at @salyon's posts as well because the "I'm going to pretend to be ignorant, post a ton of disingenuous, questionable, bigoted stuff, then check out of the thread" is also pretty classic race trolling behavior.
 

salyonara

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Oct 27, 2017
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I need to sleep, because in a few hours i need to go to work, later I will try to explain what I tried to say. You need to understand english isnt my main language, maybe I screwed up something, all sudden I saw people calling me Racist without knowing me, I grew up respecting people and now all sudden I was called Racist and biggot. If I offended somebody Im sorry, it wasnt my intention.
 

Darryl M R

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If you are going to counter protest stay safe and feel free to update us.

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  • English isn't my first language [check]
  • I'm leaving! [check]
  • Wait I'm back [check]
  • Still not making posts based on the numerous of posts filled with information to educate someone willing to have a discussion and post in good faith [check]

Also my earlier statement about the mod thread should have included, I appreciate the current approach and dedication taken. I hope you all can also set the tone when it comes to these bad faith posters.
 

salyonara

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Oct 27, 2017
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Well the mods already banned one poster from this thread. To the mods, thank you for providing an explanation and a chance for the poster to change their posting behavior in the future, I agree with this approach. I hope you take a close look at @salyon's posts as well because the "I'm going to pretend to be ignorant, post a ton of disingenuous, questionable, bigoted stuff, then check out of the thread" is also pretty classic race trolling behavior.

I say what I hear on what the media Here say. Clearly I was not well informed
 

Nacho

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm genuinely curious to see how this new forum handles disingenuous posters, people who put on an act, pretend like they are "just sharing their opinion" who "want to learn" and then reject any knowledge or evidence that is presented to them.
Well we just got to see. Biggui4yee got banned for a week, specifically for ignoring arguments he was asking for references after receiving them and continuing to dig himself into the joke and take the conversation off track.

As for all of this, this sucks. I hope that counter protesters stay safe.
 

Watershed

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  • English isn't my first language [check]
  • I'm leaving! [check]
  • Wait I'm back [checl]
  • Still not making posts based on the numerous of posts filled with information to educate someone willing to have a discussion and post in good faith [check]
Also my earlier statement about the mod thread should have included, I appreciate the current approach and dedication taken. I hope you all can also set the tone when it comes to these bad faith posters.
It's a classic troll character. Next thing you know they'll show up in the Black Culture Thread pretending to be Black.
 

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In the interest of acting in good faith, here are a few books that are useful to read when learning about systemic racism in America.

I would recommend Black Looks: Race and Representation By Bell Hooks, The New Jim Crow By Michelle Alexander, The Fire Next Time By James Baldwin, and White Like Me by Tim Wise.

Obviously this isn't an exhaustive list, but it's a good starting place for examining why racism is built into the foundation of America and what it means for people who don't benefit from white privilege.
Thanks for this. I needed some new reading material while at work.
 

Cat

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I say what I hear on what the media Here say. Clearly I was not well informed

I mentioned I lived where this rally is taking place, I brought up counter-points to your posts, but you chose to ignore them. I hope you can see why the response from American posters was less than enthusiastic.

I understand that you're in a tough situation if you're discussing American issues from another country, though. It's tough to discern what is accurate when you're consuming media about a country other than your own.
If this is not a troll account, I hope you don't feel unwelcome because of this thread.
 

Metaroo

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I haven't taken a statistics class since college, but that read very ... cryptically. Honestly, I understood very few of the comparisons he was making with the data he fidgeted with. Is anyone else struggling to make sense of this, or am I just a dummy?

[MOD EDIT: As long as users can post on sensitive topics civilly, in good faith and without (1) continuously moving the goal posts or (2) playing the "I'm just asking questions" game, we're more than happy to allow everyone to discuss these subjects as adults. Two users have been given 1 week bans for failing to abide by those simple rules. We really want this forum to be a place with light moderation, but we need your help to accomplish that goal. Thank you.]
 
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