White person tweets 'Indian food is terrible' and sparks outrage and debate about racism with regards to food

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A tweet from a US academic calling Indian food "terrible" has sparked a hot debate about cultural intolerance and racism in international cuisine.

"Indian food is terrible and we pretend it isn't," said international affairs professor Tom Nichols.

Critics called his comment a tasteless generalisation.

The remark led to a wider discussion of the immigrant experience and how many in the US have experienced racism in relation to food.





First-generation American Saira Rao wrote: "Having white people trash Indian food is extremely triggering as an Indian who has been told that I smell weird, that my food smells weird and that Indians [expletive] on the street which is why everything we are smells bad."

Some noted that in the US, international food - sometimes called "ethnic food" - is often marketed as "cheap eats". Therefore many people are more familiar with pared-down, "Americanised" street dishes that lack authentic ingredients.

"There is no 'Indian' food'," wrote one commenter.

"Also there is no curry flavour. There is no chai tea," she added, referring to the fact that chai is simply a word meaning "tea" in Hindi, and "curry" is a style of dish, rather than a flavouring.

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Others took similar issue with a "controversial food" tweet from ABC senior reporter Terry Moran, who said: "Chinese food is tired. It's boring, gloppy, over-salted and utterly forgettable."


(Sourced from BBC)

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People are, of course, free to like and dislike what they will, but yeah, the kind of tasteless (pun intended) generalizations of cuisines more diverse than entire continents (China and India, to be clear) is laughable.

Joke's on them, I adore Chinese and Indian food, both.
 

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The idea that a white person cant state another ethnic food is terrible without being racist is hilarious to me

that said, I don’t like any Indian food I’ve ever had either but I wouldn’t go around yelling it out

Although he was responding to a twitter question asking for opinions on the matter

I don’t know, people like what they like and hate what they hate, nothing wrong with that

minus him accusing those that DO like Indian food of lying, and maybe there is the crux of the issue
 

LewieP

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I'm literally on my way to an Indian restaurant right now because I saw this tweet and could taste Indian food immediately, and needed to eat some.
 

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Every time Chinese food is brought up in a conversation with white people there's always got to be at least one shitty joke about MSG or dog meat.
 

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I've never eaten Indian food before. I would like to try it but I'm afraid of it being too spicy and can't find it here anyway.
 

jerd

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I think you're allowed to dislike certain types of cuisine.

Feeling the need to shout it from the rooftop is questionable though...
 

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So not liking a certain type of cuisine is now considered racist?

With that said "Indian food" is delicious. Terrible taste, confirmed.
 

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He is generalising but I don’t think that makes him or his comment racist. At least no more so than someone saying “I love Indian food, it’s the best”.
 

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Truly, expertise died on this day (also apparently that 'death of expertise' book was originally a Federalist article, so go figure dude's a casually racist dickbag)
 

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People are, of course, free to like and dislike what they will, but yeah, the kind of tasteless (pun intended) generalizations of cuisines more diverse than entire continents (China and India, to be clear) is laughable.

Joke's on them, I adore Chinese and Indian food, both.
Can't wait for everyone to miss the point by saying of this by saying "not enjoying Indian food doesn't make you racist."

I mean it's one thing to say you don't like a specific dish, but dismissing an entire region of food is kind of bullshit and it helps to critically think about this stuff.
 

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I can order "chai tea" and restaurants advertise with "[insert country's cusine here] food" so yeah, it does exist in that form I can order it and I can criticise "chai tea" and "[insert country's cusine here] food" when I had enough samples to come to that conclusion (that at least I don't like that kind of food they are selling here under term X). People really want to get mad about anything these days.
 
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The local Indian restaurant here in town is literally my favorite place to eat. I also hate that tweet with the lady complaining about white people liking Indian food. Like, bruh.
 

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Racists like talking about food. Like that SNL guy who said that Chinese food is dishonest (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean). And we're all pretending Indian food is bad? Bullshit. I love the stuff.
 

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Does Indian food have an extremely localized variant like Chinese food does? My experience with it in the states has been pretty consistent as far as the dishes go.

So not liking a certain type of cuisine is now considered racist?

With that said "Indian food" is delicious. Terrible taste, confirmed.
His complaint lacks specificity and as such comes off as disparaging the food of a billion people.
 

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I love when people accuse others of "pretending" to like certain food and drinks. Like, yes, I'm obviously only eating Indian food and drinking double IPAs in track pants while watching professional wrestling alone in my living room to earn cool points.
 

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I think you're allowed to dislike certain types of cuisine.

Feeling the need to shout it from the rooftop is questionable though...
"I don't like Indian food" would seem pretty ignorant (there is so much variety in Indian food, I very much doubt anyone dislikes all of it).

"Indian food is terrible" is stating it as an objective fact.

I probably wouldn't say "racist" but I would say "happy to make sweeping generalisations about an entire culture's cuisine just because it's foreign."
 

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"I don't like this thing, so this thing is terrible and everyone who likes it is wrong or lying!"

I don't necessarily think he's being racist, but he comes across as self important. It also sounds like he can't take heat.
 

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Sorry but... a white friend of mine doesn't liek Sushi. Is he racist now? Like...I don't particularly like Greek food either.
People prefer some country's cuisine over others all the time, but not liking one is racist?
 

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I mean, has he tried every single Indian dish out there? There's no specific dish called "Indian food". I wouldn't call what he said racist, just ignorant.

I'm white and I hate Sushi
This is more acceptable than what the professor said, the equivalent of what he said would be "I hate Japanese food".
 

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after 2 months in India, I've come to realize the US does not know how to make chicken.
 

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the guy is a fucking idiot. India is a massive, massive country. Every few hundred miles, you will encounter an altogether new culture, new language, new food. It's like if the European continent was shrinked into a subcontinent, and governed as one country. It's extremely diverse.

What what people call "indian food" is mostly north-indian, like butter chicken, kebabs, naan, etc. There is really no ~indian food~. There is so much food variety in India it will take pages for me to describe it. South Indian dosas, Hyderabadi mutton biryani and haleem, Gujarati cuisine, Assamese, Bombay, etc etc etc. This dude labeled an entire country's food as horrible and should be ashamed of it.

I understand if you single out a specific cuisine. For example I dont really like Uthapams from South India. But it's another level to say this. What's even more terrible is he is defending his opinion and thinking he is joking, etc. Moron.
 

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If I had to choose one cousine to eat for the rest of my life, it would be Indian. At least the watered down european kind, but still. I literally cannot get tired of it.
 

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Generalizations are bad. Can you imagine saying "all food from this country is bad"
like bro come on there's almost certainly going to be some dish that suits your fancy.
 
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Man I can't believe we're in a world where we give this ignorant fool attention, like he's just an idiot with a bad opinion. I mean feel free to call it out when you see it, but this feels almost more like signal boosting since he's kind of a nobody
 

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I think you're allowed to dislike certain types of cuisine.

Feeling the need to shout it from the rooftop is questionable though...
Is a tweet from someone’s personal twitter account really “shouting it from the rooftop”? It’s not like he wrote a New York Times Op-ed about it.
 

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Idk, if a white person told me he thought Dominican food was terrible I wouldn't be compelled to call him a racist. I'm not gonna take it personal.
 

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I've never eaten Indian food before. I would like to try it but I'm afraid of it being too spicy and can't find it here anyway.
Where do you live?

A lot of Indian food is spicy, but they do have mild variants of some dishes.

Actual "Indian hot" is no joke though. My tolerance for spicy food went way up after a couple of months of eating out with an Indian coworker lol.
 

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I have a hard time believing Terry Moran would really use the word gloppy in a sentence
 

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It’s a bigoted/jingoistic as fuck take considering the scope of Indian food is so wide that the only common denominator is that it’s Indian.
 
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Lol this is ignorant, but the guy he was responding to did ask for controversial. He delivered, in spades. It's a reflection of the internet today and you see it on this site even. People can't just say "In my opinion" I don't like something, they often present it as objective fact I guess so that their opinion seems more valid?
 

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I had a white friend who LOVED Indian food.. loved so much she learned how to cook it and would basically have it on most nights. I'm sure there MUCH more... just like there are those who are picky eaters.

I love Indian food because it's fucking delicious.

To switch things up, yall should try a Burrito, made with Indian food ingredients. Oh My Fucking God.

This one food truck in SF had it, every bite was bliss.
 

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Was laughing at this shit on Twitter over the weekend.

People are allowed to have opinions. I don't care much for sushi after having eaten it.

Doesn't mean that in my spare time I squint my eyes and replace my Ls with Rs.

Some people dug far too deep with this one.
 

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Yeah, I don't think you get to say Indian food or Chinese food as a whole is trash without having tried all the different varieties of Indian/Chinese food. Indian food isn't just butter chicken and naan, you fucking idiots.

His opinion sounds like those of folks who go to one shitty Panda Express or curry shop and use their bad experience to condemn an entire cuisine. The most egregious part of Nichol's tweet is that he had the audacity to say that he doubts that Indian food made in India would be better than whatever he ate in Rhode Island.

In regards to Saira's tweet, it's an experience I've definitely felt before. While I've lived a life of privilege growing up in an environment heavily populated with Asian folks, I definitely have felt that experience of feeling like the odd one out for things I considered normal.
Does Indian food have an extremely localized variant like Chinese food does? My experience with it in the states has been pretty consistent as far as the dishes go.
Akin to how Chinese food has sub-cuisines a la Sichuan, Xinjiang, Hainan, etc., Indian food has regional cuisines like South Indian, Gujurati, Goan, etc. The most common version available in the US is the generic curry and naan shops, but there are places that serve Gujurati thalis or dosas/utthapams.
 
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"I don't like Indian food" would seem pretty ignorant (there is so much variety in Indian food, I very much doubt anyone dislikes all of it).

"Indian food is terrible" is stating it as an objective fact.

I probably wouldn't say "racist" but I would say "happy to make sweeping generalisations about an entire culture's cuisine just because it's foreign."
The sweeping generalization was what dumbfounded me. It's fine if the person who tweeted hates a certain type of food (why he needs to advertise that so strongly, who knows), but trying to speak for others was just moronic.
 
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