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Whose the Worst Disney Princess?
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Wow, I'd have never thought that turning the Beast's human form into Kirk Douglas would actually be an improvement, but... there you go! Damn, that actually works pretty well!
Yup.
Have you not read Fables? Because you need to read Fables.
Eh., she acknowledged she fucked up, paid a price. Just because daddy gave her the keys back at the ernd doesn't mean she didn't learn a lesson.
When you ground you're children did you take there phone, car, PlayStation away permantly?
I have not! I'll definitely check it out soon though, once I have the time and resources to do so! I could go for some more Kirk Douglas as the Beast.
You're in for a treat. Open up a LTTP topic when you do, I'd love to participate.
I can understand the hate for Snow White and Ariel, but delve a little deeper than what's on the surface.
Snow White was, kind of like Cindy, living a life of servitude under an overbearing woman who gained her power from misbegotten means.
When Snow finally breaks away from the castle, the only life she ever known, she comes upon a house and immediately takes control environment by making all the wrongs right. i.e. cleaning. And, eventually, she becomes the gentle overlord of her little dwarven kingdom.
- What sucks is that she leaves her rightful inheritance, where she would be queen, and the people of her home kingdom without a ruler, providing that she never returns home. So, actually, Snow takes a step down in power to be with some guy that just happened to be at the right place at the right time.
Ariel does easily come across as a snot-nosed and selfish brat. You're not wrong. However, she does have the courage to break away from the hive mind and try something new. She was the secret rebel by being fascinated with land people - who she was taught to be horrible beyond imagining - and tried to make contact.
-- Yes, a bunch of bad stuff happened, but that's fallout and eventually proved that both sides could unite to defeat a shared enemy.
We really can't judge Aurora. We don't really get to know her. And, living a very sheltered life away from society, she may not know herself.
My votes is on Rey as the worst, if we can consider her a princess.
Snow White was, kind of like Cindy, living a life of servitude under an overbearing woman who gained her power from misbegotten means.
When Snow finally breaks away from the castle, the only life she ever known, she comes upon a house and immediately takes control environment by making all the wrongs right. i.e. cleaning. And, eventually, she becomes the gentle overlord of her little dwarven kingdom.
- What sucks is that she leaves her rightful inheritance, where she would be queen, and the people of her home kingdom without a ruler, providing that she never returns home. So, actually, Snow takes a step down in power to be with some guy that just happened to be at the right place at the right time.
Ariel does easily come across as a snot-nosed and selfish brat. You're not wrong. However, she does have the courage to break away from the hive mind and try something new. She was the secret rebel by being fascinated with land people - who she was taught to be horrible beyond imagining - and tried to make contact.
-- Yes, a bunch of bad stuff happened, but that's fallout and eventually proved that both sides could unite to defeat a shared enemy.
We really can't judge Aurora. We don't really get to know her. And, living a very sheltered life away from society, she may not know herself.
My votes is on Rey as the worst, if we can consider her a princess.
Anakin: "I slaughtered an entire village, including the women and children."
Padme: "Okay..."
Yea, I have to agree with the Snow White mentions, especially the movie itself. But Disney's newer movies are great though. Watched Moana when it was released and I have to say it's one of the best animated films I've seen.
Ariel. Her actions doom herself, her friends, and her family. She doesn't even fix her own issue. Other people do that for her. And on top of this she learns absolutely NOTHING from this because the same thing happens again with her own daughter for even dumber reasons that could've been solved with a single conversation.
She learned NOTHING! NOTHING I TELL YOU!
Elsa is a queen
She learned NOTHING! NOTHING I TELL YOU!
I'll make a note to do that once I get the chance to read it! Might be awhile though, as I didn't realize the series was so long!
Aurora and Snow White are terrible so bland and boring.
I love Megara and Esmeralda but they're not princesses.
I love Megara and Esmeralda but they're not princesses.
Don't have to do it all at once. The series has narrative archs that are usually covered in their entirety in each TPB.
Ariel's probably the worst (with Snow White and Aurora tied for blandest) but to be fair her old man is a racist arsehole so you can't fault her for wanting to get away from him, even if that meant doing really, really stupid shit in order to get a little bit of land action.
Tinkerbell may have been part of the original line up, but I don't think the official Disney Princess brand existed before the 2000's. I could be wrong but I just don't remember it being heavily marketed until the 2000's.
When you have a little girl you know these things.
King Triton is an abusive controlling father who burns his children's belongings out of pointless rage and makes an evil sea witch more caring my comparison
Just fyi
Just fyi
Oh and Ariel wanted to be human long before any man of her dreams came into her life.
And, despite the title, the lyrics of Part of Your World, sung long after she had compiled a liberal cave worth of human artifacts and before she even sees Eric, is: "part of that world".
And, despite the title, the lyrics of Part of Your World, sung long after she had compiled a liberal cave worth of human artifacts and before she even sees Eric, is: "part of that world".
It was an accident, and in the end she saved her sister and her people.
The worst Disney Princess by far is Aurora. What exactly does she do besides laying there and waiting for Prince Charming to save her? Cinderella went through hell, Snow White also went through ordeal and had a heart of gold, and Bell showed that looks shouldn't be what a person's character should be based on. Then you have Princess Aurora who pretty much slept through the whole thing and woke up like, " *yawn* what did I miss guys?!"
To be fair to Ariel, she wanted to be human before she ever saw Eric. Eric was just a valuable bonus until Ursula stipulated that her spell could only be broken by true love's kiss and suddenly that became her primary objective.
I thought Moana was decent, but her unfortunate chicken sidekick held her back. Moana would've been the best if she snapped that damn chicken's neck and gave it to her village as food, imo and all.
Edit: I know Cinderella gets shit from some feminist group because she was basically given her happy ending by being a good little girl and waiting for it, and while yes I agree to an extent, it doesn't make her a bad character. Cinderella remained a good person besides the years of dealing with her step-family's shit and being their slave. Also it's not like she was some docile human, Cinderella knew her situation was bullshit, but couldn't exactly leave her own home, and she fought for her happy ending to the extent of her abilities after being locked away by her step-mother.
I like 50's Cinderella better than remake Cindy.
Edit: I know Cinderella gets shit from some feminist group because she was basically given her happy ending by being a good little girl and waiting for it, and while yes I agree to an extent, it doesn't make her a bad character. Cinderella remained a good person besides the years of dealing with her step-family's shit and being their slave. Also it's not like she was some docile human, Cinderella knew her situation was bullshit, but couldn't exactly leave her own home, and she fought for her happy ending to the extent of her abilities after being locked away by her step-mother.
I like 50's Cinderella better than remake Cindy.
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As someone who's not a furry, there's still no denying that's a pretty big downgrade.Yeah, I die every time I watch this movie because she looks disappointed with his transformation. To be fair, he's even more scary as a human.
So....Ariel is a weeaboo.
She, consumes every little tidbit about her fetishized culture (in a way that would be considered weird) to the point of wanting to go there based on her interpretation rather than fact.
She hangs out with a weird friend (Scuttles), from whom she get's her information on her fetishized culture (and he knows all this information because, you know, he's an expert).
She has a falling out with her parental figure over this.
She finally gets to go and is just as much a misfit in the human world (because of bad intel) as the fish world.
She's totally a weeaboo.
;P
For the record, Elsa didn't zap Anna's brain. She knocked her unconscious. The trolls did the zapping to change her memories to exclude anything about magic, and then her asshole father repressed her abilities destroying the sisters' relationship because Elsa feared to be near her.
As for the question, I don't care about many of them. Elsa (she was a princess until she grew up anyway), Moana (she has a animal sidekick, makes her a princess), Jasmine (actually a princess) and Belle (marrying a ... lord?) are the best though. Mulan too, but her entire character was NOT accepting the pretty girl role, and except for recognition by the emperor she's nowhere near royalty anyway.
As for the question, I don't care about many of them. Elsa (she was a princess until she grew up anyway), Moana (she has a animal sidekick, makes her a princess), Jasmine (actually a princess) and Belle (marrying a ... lord?) are the best though. Mulan too, but her entire character was NOT accepting the pretty girl role, and except for recognition by the emperor she's nowhere near royalty anyway.
Definitely sleeping beauty. She doesn't even have a name. And she's known for sleeping.
Also kissing a sleeping person is sexual assault right
Also kissing a sleeping person is sexual assault right
For those saying Ariel you should see the sequel her offspring is even worse!
She has a daughter called Melody, who finds out her mum is a mermaid (it had been kept secret to protect her) and flips out, at one point gives something to Ursulas sister to give her almighty power even when Ariel is telling her how dangerous it is!
She has a daughter called Melody, who finds out her mum is a mermaid (it had been kept secret to protect her) and flips out, at one point gives something to Ursulas sister to give her almighty power even when Ariel is telling her how dangerous it is!
This all after, instead of telling Melody "You can't go in the ocean because of a sea witch trying to kill you," they just build a wall and assume she won't do the EXACT SAME THING ARIEL DID. Melody may be terrible but that's only because Ariel and Eric are terrible parents.
Ariel, your dad had vague reasons for not wanting you on land. You have a very specific and very rational reason for Melody not to be in the ocean. Why not tell her? You're sheltering her from a threat that you didnt tell her existed and then got upset when she was frustrated that shes wasnt allowed in the ocean for no given reason.
"The black one from The Black Girl and the Frog" goddamn Woolie is savage, I mean I agree but damn.
Anna and Elsa's parents apparently took tips from Ariel and Eric.
Do we actually have a list of "approved" princesses?
Using my gut, I'm going with Mulan easily.
Using my gut, I'm going with Mulan easily.
Best princess is Mulan. She succeeds in her goal of saving her father from dying in the war, fights off an enemy invasion and saves China.
Worst princess narratively is Ariel for the reasons Pat highlighted. Actively empowers her own villain.
Worst princess overall is Pocahontas due to political reasons previously mentioned in this thread.
Additional honourable mention to Esmeralda from Hunchback who is not a princess for getting with Frolo's right hand man who was an accessory to genocide (but he's hot so OK).
Additional shout out to Chez Lindsay (formerly the nostalgia chick), for making great videos critiquing modern movies. She's well versed in Disney and here's a relevant video:
http://disneyprincess.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Disney_Princesses
Elena, Elsa, Anna and Tiana are not considered princesses.
Worst princess narratively is Ariel for the reasons Pat highlighted. Actively empowers her own villain.
Worst princess overall is Pocahontas due to political reasons previously mentioned in this thread.
Additional honourable mention to Esmeralda from Hunchback who is not a princess for getting with Frolo's right hand man who was an accessory to genocide (but he's hot so OK).
Additional shout out to Chez Lindsay (formerly the nostalgia chick), for making great videos critiquing modern movies. She's well versed in Disney and here's a relevant video:
http://disneyprincess.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Disney_Princesses
Elena, Elsa, Anna and Tiana are not considered princesses.
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Snow White, Aurora, Cinderella, Ariel, Belle, Jasmine, Mulan, Tiana, Pocahontas, Elsa, Anna, Merida, and Elena of Avalor