Yea I can see the paid dlc to cost around the price of the soundtrack for ps4/pc after a few months after the release of the switch version
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Why are people so angry about Dragon Quest XI S?
- Thread starter MegaManTrigger
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Yea I can see the paid dlc to cost around the price of the soundtrack for ps4/pc after a few months after the release of the switch version
It's some shocked Pikachu-ass shit to complain when you knew what you were getting into and still bought the game early. You thought the Switch release was going to be some lazy late port with nothing to sweeten the pot? Ya thought wrong. Maybe hold off next time until a better version rolls around. I did, and I have a PS4 Pro sitting ten feet away. None of that scuffed Spencer Mansion Basement music for me, no sirree.
Nope. There was orchestra music, but they refused to include it and gave the impression it would never be. Now releasing a version with it is indeed just giving people who already bought the game without any way to get that soundtrack for the version they paid for the middle finger.
What is there to suggest that Sugiyama could extert influence over the PS4 release but not the Switch release?
Saying that people should be informed consumers is cruel now?
In fact, I'm not even saying that. It's okay to be uninformed, if you don't then blame someone else for you not being informed. I'm just saying that if you don't make an effort to be an informed consumer, you don't get to complain that you were blindsided by long-public information. That's on you.
People who bought DQ XI got exactly what they paid for: a lengthy, high-quality game. It's not like SE was pushing a defective product on people.
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Um. But there is no logical connection between the orchestral OST and the delay between the PS4 and Switch release of the game. What you are saying does not make sense.
Square Enix didn't want to pay him whatever stupid cost it would have required to keep the orchestral score in the international release.
I mean people playing on PS4 and Steam got something sweet that Switch owners don't... getting the game a year early. Would you have preferred the other versions were held back?
But wouldnt they still have needed to pay him for the Switch release? Also did the original JP release have the orchestral soundtrack? I'm confused.
Yeah hopefully the music gets updated in the other versions. Hope Square Enix doesn't pull that again.
The Japan and Asia releases have no difficulty selection, QoL improvements, voice acting that was included in the Western Ps4 and pc version too.
I think it's likily to be paid DLC to cover the cost.
The original JP never had orchestral arrangements.
What the poster your speaking may be suggesting is that Nintendo may have paid SE additional money that was passed on to Sugiyama for the orchestral versions.
Obviously its conjecture, but it would explain why they finally got the tunes in the game. This was the third time the game was released--Original JP, International version, which added English VA, running and other QoL options, and the Switch version with its additions.
I don't think any version was released with orchestra music, so not sure what you're referring to.
Sorry man. Buy a game for what is in there. If you don't see it in there don't assume it will be added. That transaction is done.
What a slap in the face to the millions of Japanese fans. They should have been DLC.
The result of people waiting and not buying something like Dragon Quest on day one tends to result in the publisher making statements about how they're not sure if it's worth localising any further games in the series for the West, or for that particular platform at least. That's not the signal you want to send either.
If we'r talking about something like Spider-Man, then sure. I'm confident we'll see a GOTY version of that later this year, and probably a Definitive Edition on PS5. But there was also no risk of the game flopping at launch.
To each their own, idk why yall tryna cover it up but ok. Agree to disagree
Huh. Apparently not.
But regardless, I can't understate one point enough.
SUGIYAMA IS A FUCKING RAT-ASS BASTARD
and he will keep a firm grip on the use of his orchestral music until his war crime-denying ass is six feet under. The only reason that it's in the Switch version is because some party convinced him to let him use the orchestral music in the Switch version with a large check.
The original Japanese release didn't even have a Japanese voice track. The Switch version is the first release to get one.
All of that should be patched into those versions as regular game updates, and if it's not already that's some bullshit and Square needs to fix their nonsense.
Yea. Which is why I can see it coming as paid Dlc for pc/Ps4 for around the same price as his album.
No one gave a shit and they can't pretend to now. It was expected and celebrated that the western version would have upgrades from the Japanese version.
Why would dual audio be in when the Japanese version itself never had audio in the first place? It already had two SKUs with the 3DS and PS4 version. Another PS4 international version one year later would've looked worse.
Here they can spin this version as the definitive one, add story content, add the 3DS content, and add Japanese voices. It's much better value proposition for the Japanese market than another relatively minor, in terms of changes, PS4 release.
Because the orchestral OST should have been an option from the beginning. I have the music mod for the PC version so it's.m not the ends of the world, but it makes you feel like you bought an unfinished product.
Having to compromise on the graphics to play with it, and expecting people to pay full price twice in a year is low.
Having to compromise on the graphics to play with it, and expecting people to pay full price twice in a year is low.
The problem with this is that it has been announced and PRONOUNCED that it will have exclusive features for awhile now.
Like is it not logical to not wait and see?
The onus is on them to communicate, maybe they will change their plans after the backlash? So far they haven't said anything.
The music itself doesn't bother me, but I am jealous of the 2D stuff. I didn't expect the Switch version to get it, and now I genuinely wish I had waited.
Nobody celebrated shit over the Japanese version not getting features, the west were happy we got improvements over the Japanese release but i have seen nobody actively being against something being patched in, unlike in this thread.
I finished the PS4 version true ending and all and am not remotely upset that a Switch version I won't be getting is receiving neat extra content to justify it's existence
But a proper soundtrack that existed at the time of release due to issues with the composer that appear to be solved now should not be considered an "exclusive feature".
This. I would never have begrudged Japanese fans for requesting the International features be patched into the Japanese versions. That's just petty.
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I'm not saying the onus isn't on them to communicate, but I'm seeing a lot people ITT treat no news as if it's a foregone conclusion when DLC could always be announced later down the road. But there's also the legitimate issue of whether Nintendo paid for the rights to use Sugiyama's content or not.
Exactly. Not only was the PS4/PC release not ever claimed to be the final incarnation of the game, it was explicitly stated not to be, long before anyone bought it, and people are still upset about being "slapped in the face" or whatever.
I don't have a ton of sympathy for people whining that the newer version has extra stuff, just because they assumed that it wouldn't.
And of course, DQ XI is still a great game and a good value for your gaming dollar on any platform.
It's likily solved by Nintendo paying for the rights. I think it's possible for a paid dlc for the sound tracks to happen down the road for PC and PS4 unless he hates money.
To be fair, Square Enix isn't known for going back to update old releases. NieR Automata on PC still hasn't been patched. The BGM bug persist in the new console ports of FFIX, as it was never fixed on PS4. The latter did get an update to the UI, but that was not made available for the Steam version owners.
I think the pessimistic attitude towards the way this company handles consumer service is warranted.
In my experience this kind of stuff with enhanced rereleases or ports used to be a common habit, especially with Japanese games, but for a variety of reasons many have eased off of this approach in favor of different distribution/update models that keep the access barriers smaller, ensure better content parity between different platforms, and/or package enhancements and additions in a way that's more appealing to many of those who bought the initial release. We aren't getting a Final Mix release of Kingdom Hearts 3 that basically requires the initial buyers to buy the entire game again to access new/updated content, for example, and even Pokemon has seemingly moved away from the "Director's Cut" style third versions to make stuff like sequels instead. I'd say overall what's happening here isn't as common as it used to be, so in these cases where it does happen and people take notice, it'll be controversial.
Of course, I obviously don't know if anything was worked out to make this happen, or if they have something in mind for people who have the PS4/PC versions and don't want to or can't buy it again on Switch. I'd like a version of the game that's optimal in every way, but oh well, maybe someday. As far as content definitive versions of DQ games tend to end up on handhelds, so that it happened yet again isn't really surprising to me personally.
Of course, I obviously don't know if anything was worked out to make this happen, or if they have something in mind for people who have the PS4/PC versions and don't want to or can't buy it again on Switch. I'd like a version of the game that's optimal in every way, but oh well, maybe someday. As far as content definitive versions of DQ games tend to end up on handhelds, so that it happened yet again isn't really surprising to me personally.
Nintendo fans are kind of immune by now to the frustration of not getting games that come to other systems, or getting gimped versions of them.