Why are people so eager for Nintendo to abandon the 3DS?

angelgrievous · May 16, 2018

It's kind of funny because of how popular the new "retro" games are now. People won't want 3DS support until it's a retro console and then when some indie dev releases a "new" 3DS game people will flip out and spend a ton of money on it.

I just got a 3ds a week or so ago and I like it. I'll be diving into it's catalog for years to come.

lame gag · May 16, 2018

To be fair, there's no point having 2 handheld consoles out with 2 different libraries.

Naner · May 16, 2018

Because my eyes deserve better than a 240p screen. And I don't see a reason to carry my 3DS around when I have a much nicer Switch.

New_Guy · May 16, 2018

Sword Familiar said:
It's the same company! They have a monopoly either way!

No see, you said ALL games on one platform. Here it is:

Sword Familiar said:
OP, if you could, wouldn't you want all games on one platform?

Sword Familiar · May 16, 2018

New_Guy said:
No see, you said ALL games on one platform. Here it is:

I obviously meant all Nintendo-bound games. But you knew that. You just wanted to argue.

New_Guy · May 16, 2018

Sword Familiar said:
I obviously meant all Nintendo-bound games. But you knew that. You just wanted to argue.

No, I took it exactly as you wrote it.

StraySheep · May 16, 2018

People who don't understand why we want to leave the 3DS in the past are worse than Yanny people.

bonch00ski · May 16, 2018

Once the switch releases a right joy con that has the analog stick in a position that doesn't make my thumb throb in pain then I'll retire my 3ds and switch. Until then the more 3ds games the better

Sword Familiar · May 16, 2018

New_Guy said:
No, I took it exactly as you wrote it.

You could learn a thing or two about context, but I'll try to be clearer in the future to avoid misunderstandings.

cardboardboxer · May 16, 2018

Jiggy said:
That 240p screen is a tragedy

Actually my 2DS XL is my favorite way to play SNES games for that reason. Native resolution or close beats any sort of upscaling I can find.

I am just sad that the 3DS SNES Virtual Console is so limited. I might end up hacking the system just to get my legitimately ripped roms on it.

Dezzy · May 16, 2018

I don't play portables, but the 3DS has a lot of games I'd love to play(RPGs like SMT games, DQ7 remake, etc), so I look at it like this: the faster Nintendo drops the 3DS, the faster the Switch gets games like the 3DS has been getting over the years, and I can play them on the TV.

Optimator · May 16, 2018

Dezzy said:
I don't play portables, but the 3DS has a lot of games I'd love to play(RPGs like SMT games, DQ7 remake, etc), so I look at it like this: the faster Nintendo drops the 3DS, the faster the Switch gets games like the 3DS has been getting over the years, and I can play them on the TV.

This x 1000.

Why those who are in favor of the 3DS continuing to get games don't see this, I don't know. And I wouldn't care at all if the 3DS continued to get games if Nintendo had a clearly communicated porting strategy for bringing games like Samus Returns to Switch.

iksenpets · May 16, 2018

For me, it's just a matter of the big gulf between the quality of Switch visuals versus the 3DS. All else being equal, I'd rather spend hours looking at the Switch's screen to play any given game than the screens on the 3DS.

citrusred · May 16, 2018

cardboardboxer said:
Actually my 2DS XL is my favorite way to play SNES games for that reason. Native resolution or close beats any sort of upscaling I can find.

I am just sad that the 3DS SNES Virtual Console is so limited. I might end up hacking the system just to get my legitimately ripped roms on it.

Pretty sure 240p is below the SNES resolution for most games.

Ripcord · May 16, 2018

Hieroph said:
It's a complete fantasy that games like Radiant Historia, Alliance Alive, Detective Pikachu, Shin Megami Tensei SJR, Wario Ware Gold or any of the upcoming 3DS exclusives would have suddenly appeared on the Switch if they weren't on 3DS.

Wishing the death of 3DS then sounds more like wishing those games didn't even exist at all, just out of some misguided spite that 3DS is still getting games.

Nintendo doesn't have a Wii or DS anymore, that's why.

Shrug. Maybe they would have been Switch games if the 3DS was retired. We'll never know for sure and it doesn't matter, cause they're not. I never said I wished those games didn't exist. They might as well not exist for me and that's okay. I feel no spite. Nintendo can release games on the Switch and have some chance of me purchasing them or release them on the 3DS where I've no chance of purchasing them. There's a ton of other games out there to spend money on, so getting mad about the 3DS still being alive is silly. I am eager for it to die because I think that'll mean more support for the Switch. Dunno if that's actually true.

Deleted member 29464 · May 16, 2018

I feel like this would have been less of an issue if it was possible to be making switch games that were also released scaled down for 3ds. Right now though, it seems like people are either making games for 3DS or Switch. One of the big selling points of the switch was the idea of a unified platform but how long will it take to actually get one. Also, I'm curious about how long the switch going to last and how long will it receive full focus by first and third party devs? Guessing we will see shorter console cycles by MS and Sony for home systems but I'm not hoping for that with Switch if it means untapped potential.

Dog of Bork · May 16, 2018

Sword Familiar said:
You could learn a thing or two about context, but I'll try to be clearer in the future to avoid misunderstandings.

Don't bother. This is a guy who thinks anyone with complaints about the 3DS is pushing a "narrative" rather than expressing opinions. He's not here to discuss this in good faith.

Kenpachii · May 16, 2018

angelgrievous said:
It's kind of funny because of how popular the new "retro" games are now. People won't want 3DS support until it's a retro console and then when some indie dev releases a "new" 3DS game people will flip out and spend a ton of money on it.

I just got a 3ds a week or so ago and I like it. I'll be diving into it's catalog for years to come.

I wish the switch had a 3DS + DS cartridge slot that upscales resolution of all those games through a emulator on the Switch. Would make the library of the switch a lot more interesting.

Kenpachii · May 16, 2018

cardboardboxer said:
Actually my 2DS XL is my favorite way to play SNES games for that reason. Native resolution or close beats any sort of upscaling I can find.

I am just sad that the 3DS SNES Virtual Console is so limited. I might end up hacking the system just to get my legitimately ripped roms on it.

Native resolution in my opinion is garbage. Sure some games on some platforms it's doable but 240p for a 3D enviroment game is just to low you lose a lot of detail. And alot of detail specially in moving pictures get completely destroyed in a tornado of unstable output.

Here are good examples:

Here is what i mean in motion:

https://i.gyazo.com/5dc71bad625104392fdae6bafe7a51cc.mp4

3DS and DS emulator with upscale resolution on switch would be godly.

maximumzero · May 16, 2018

Kenpachii said:
Native resolution in my opinion is garbage. Sure some games on some platforms it's doable but 240p for a 3D enviroment game is just to low you lose a lot of detail. And alot of detail specially in moving pictures get completely destroyed in a tornado of unstable output.

Here are good examples:

Here is what i mean in motion:

https://i.gyazo.com/5dc71bad625104392fdae6bafe7a51cc.mp4

3DS and DS emulator with upscale resolution on switch would be godly.

Surprise surprise you're upscaling lower resolution content onto a higher resolution display, no duh it looks like garbage in your examples.

New_Guy · May 16, 2018

Night Angel said:
Don't bother. This is a guy who thinks anyone with complaints about the 3DS is pushing a "narrative" rather than expressing opinions. He's not here to discuss this in good faith.

As opposed to people who believe that killing the 3DS would mean they would get every game on the Switch that is coming or has come to the 3DS since the Switch release. People who believe a 3DS game can be ported to the Switch quickly and easily ignoring the second screen on the 3DS and knowing they won't be satisfied with 3DS graphics upscale to 720p.

These are people arguing in good faith? To me, complaining that a company is still supporting it's product is indefensible. It's like people are jealous of the 3DS.

Twig · May 16, 2018

Kenpachii said:
Native resolution in my opinion is garbage. Sure some games on some platforms it's doable but 240p for a 3D enviroment game is just to low you lose a lot of detail. And alot of detail specially in moving pictures get completely destroyed in a tornado of unstable output.

Here are good examples:

Here is what i mean in motion:

https://i.gyazo.com/5dc71bad625104392fdae6bafe7a51cc.mp4

3DS and DS emulator with upscale resolution on switch would be godly.

Holy fucking shit I had no idea the assets would even be high enough resolution to work this well haha.

maximumzero said:
Surprise surprise you're upscaling lower resolution content onto a higher resolution display, no duh it looks like garbage in your examples.

You're 100% right, but the point of that comparison is to show the detail loss. Not to say "this looks better side by side".

maximumzero · May 16, 2018

Twig said:
You're 100% right, but the point of that comparison is to show the detail loss. Not to say "this looks better side by side".

I'm not sure anyone would argue with you that a game displayed at 720p offers better detail than a game displayed at 240p.

Twig · May 16, 2018

maximumzero said:
I'm not sure anyone would argue with you that a game displayed at 720p offers better detail than a game displayed at 240p.

Then you have nothing to argue with! Cool!

maximumzero · May 16, 2018

Twig said:
Then you have nothing to argue with! Cool!

Right, right, but what does this have to do with the 3DS still being supported as a platform?

Twig · May 16, 2018

maximumzero said:
Right, right, but what does this have to do with the 3DS still being supported as a platform?

They want the games to be on a system with higher resolution, because they like the way games look that way?

UltraGashInferno · May 16, 2018

Just the screens. The screens were sub-PSP quality when 3DS came out and it's 13 years since the psp launched. It's absolutely fucking ridiculous. I feel like they almost have to go out of their way to get screens this bad at this point.
If it had nice screens, i wouldnt feel very strongly about then sticking with or abandoning it, though id lean towards the latter

Thank god for Citra.

maximumzero · May 16, 2018

Twig said:
They want the games to be on a system with higher resolution, because they like the way games look that way?

Cool, so that's settled, let's move onto other reasons that the 3DS still exists, such as price point.

Fawz · May 16, 2018

You can only move as fast as the slowest member of the group, and unless they're looking to do another 3DS refresh any of the titles that come out for it at this point feel wasted due to the platform's shrinking audience and limited capabilities when compared to the Switch's handheld offering. It would have been nice if the Switch came with a 3DS cartridge reader of some sorts so it could extend it's lifetime a bit more, but its been 7 years. Time to move on to the next gen!

Twig · May 16, 2018

maximumzero said:
Cool, so that's settled, let's move onto other reasons that the 3DS still exists, such as price point.

Okay. But the OP posits the question: "Why are people so eager for Nintendo to abandon the 3DS?" That post provides one reason.

You seem perturbed by that post's existence, and I honestly don't understand why.

I literally do not give two shits about why the 3DS still exists. I want it gone because I don't want to use it ever again.

maximumzero · May 16, 2018

Twig said:
Okay. But the OP posits the question: "Why are people so eager for Nintendo to abandon the 3DS?" That post provides one reason.

You seem perturbed by that post's existence, and I honestly don't understand why.

I literally do not give two shits about why the 3DS still exists. I want it gone because I don't want to use it ever again.

I can understand why folks want to never use the 3DS again, but it serves its purpose in Nintendo's hardware lineup, and it's not a smart business decision for Nintendo dump it right now. What you want and reality don't necessarily line up.

Hydrus · May 16, 2018

Why so eager? Is this a troll thread? It's 7 years old. It was outdated the day it released and it's even more outdated now. Every game that releases on it would look and play a million times better on Switch. They should be putting 100% focus on Switch, not splitting their customer base. Trying to support two different handhelds is just dumb, especially when one is 7 years old and neither can share content. If anything, Nintendo should release an affordable mini Switch to help get Switch in even more hands.

RPGam3r · May 16, 2018

1. One less system to lug around and keep charged
2. Resources squandered on 3DS dev rather than Switch
3. The Switch is more comfortable to me and the power/resolution makes going back to the 3DS tough

I'm done with the 3DS, its old and and I'm ready to pack it away for long term storage.

kdillman · May 16, 2018

I think people want Ninty to focus on the Switch or perhaps another project if/when the 3DS is sunset. Maybe even have devs putting out quality 3DS titles be able to focus on Switch games and/or ports.

Deleted member 35077 · May 16, 2018

UltraGashInferno said:
Just the screens. The screens were sub-PSP quality when 3DS came out and it's 13 years since the psp launched. It's absolutely fucking ridiculous. I feel like they almost have to go out of their way to get screens this bad at this point.
If it had nice screens, i wouldnt feel very strongly about then sticking with or abandoning it, though id lean towards the latter

Thank god for Citra.

Yeah, the 3D was an unnecessary gimick and I would give it up for an increase in resolution. It also doesn't help that it was absent for most of the pokemon games, only used in a cave and credits on XY.

TrickyAssist · May 16, 2018

Because we would like to play more than SMO, BotW, MK8D, and Splatoon 2 on our new $300 devices with nice, large, high-resolution screens rather than on a small 7-year-old device with a screen the size of a postage stamp.

PrimeBeef · May 16, 2018

It's pretty simple OP, the sooner all development for 3DS is over the more ga.es will come out for the Switch.

RM8 · May 16, 2018

TrickyAssist said:
Because we would like to play more than SMO, BotW, MK8D, and Splatoon 2 on our new $300 devices with nice, large, high-resolution screens rather than on a small 7-year-old device with a screen the size of a postage stamp.

Making Switch games costs money. If only Nintendo could find a way to make more money without having to invest a lot of resources.

Deleted member 6949 · May 16, 2018

Every version of the 3ds has horrid ergonomics except for the 2ds, which has its own host of issues. I just hate physically holding them. I'm a HUGE Metroid fan and I still haven't played the 3ds game because I am that committed to never holding one of those systems again. The 3ds XL in particular feels like it was purposefully designed to give you nerve damage. Now that I have a Switch that is portable and has better control options I just want to be able to play all of Nintendo's new games there.

DoItForJohnny5Alive · May 16, 2018

I disagree, I think it DOES take away from the Switch' library. All the developers and resources spent supporting the 3DS could be going towards Switch exclusives making it sell even better. Why would you want a new top down Zelda on old 3DS hardware when you could get that on the Switch? Why wouldn't you want to use the Switch' power to really make Samus Returns and Luigi's Mansion really shine? All these little games could be even better and give us Switch owners even more Nintendo 1st party games to play. If Nintendo then wanted to port down to the 3DS to get some of that install base money that's fine. But they have a chance to sell even more Switches as long as they give us the games yet the 1st half of 2018 is underwhelming and could be so much better had they put these 3DS games on the Switch instead. This is just more evidence that Nintendo has awful business sense. They squander their amazing IP and developer might so much. It's a testament to that IP that they can sustain success despite all the bone-headed decisions they make that hurt themselves.

aerozombie · May 16, 2018

I have no interest in using my 3DS and would rather all of Ninty's resources go into new (not ports, not sequels, not cardboard, new IP) Switch content

Twig · May 16, 2018

maximumzero said:
I can understand why folks want to never use the 3DS again, but it serves its purpose in Nintendo's hardware lineup, and it's not a smart business decision for Nintendo dump it right now. What you want and reality don't necessarily line up.

Sure, but that's not what the question is. Hence...

And that's pretty much it. Glad this thread has been solved.

RM8 · May 16, 2018

hippopotamus said:
Every version of the 3ds has horrid ergonomics except for the 2ds, which has its own host of issues. I just hate physically holding them. I'm a HUGE Metroid fan and I still haven't played the 3ds game because I am that committed to never holding one of those systems again. The 3ds XL in particular feels like it was purposefully designed to give you nerve damage. Now that I have a Switch that is portable and has better control options I just want to be able to play all of Nintendo's new games there.

Samus Returns is amazing, though!

Why are people so eager for Nintendo to abandon the 3DS?

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