I think I will wait until it actually feels like a WWII game, with iconic maps and Americans and Japanese in the game.
Also double the weapons.
Also double the weapons.
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Why buy Battlefield V at release?
- Thread starter Gemüsepizza
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Except the person I was replying to was talking about those games being better than BF1 because people still played them even though BF1 still has the bigger playerbase than both but okay.
How many weapons are there in the base game then? They havent said anything yet.
Did you read somewhere that the release code is exactly the same as the beta?
Ah see this is your problem. They're trying to focus on lesser known and forgotten battles of WW2. Why does a WW2 game have to have Americans in it in order to feel Authentic when there was a period of 2 years where America refused to participate. During this 2 years there were countless battles that are often forgotten about and this is what the devs want to focus on.
The weapons, we don't know how many is at launch and they're adding more in with ToW.
Probably the biggest complaint for Medics is when players immediately cancel the revive option upon dying. Often times it's a boneheaded move, so I'm somewhat okay with players not being able to hop back in like it's CoD.
Yeah all the DLC has been free and the games have been almost free. I think BF3 was a fantastic game, BF4 was good, and BF1 just felt like a step back once you got over the WW1 setting of it. I think 4 struggled a bit being a cross gen game, plus when it launched it was missing features which is not unlike what this whole thread is about haha.
I'll never buy a BF game day one again, this time I will get the EA subscription thing for one month then if I like the game I'll buy it with all DLC for about half price a year or so later.
It's always been a wait until Black Friday x Christmas sale game for me, same with call of duty
They are always at least half off by then
They are always at least half off by then
BF3 is only available on PS3/360/PC, BF4 is quite old now, it released before the PS4 released. BF1 is not even two years old yet!
You can't compare the stats of a game that's 2 years old with ones that are up to a decade old and no longer supported at all with new content.
I don't think the numbers currently playing determine the quality of a game either.
People have strange nostalgia for BF3 and BF4:
The BF3 beta originally only had Operation Metro Rush which is probably the absolute worst map to ever exist in this franchise, and then someone on PC managed to get the conquest version of the map to load and found out it was even smaller than the Rush version of the map which caused meltdowns.
Then they had that YouTuber event where they were gonna showcase Caspian Border on password protected servers, but someone leaked the password so everyone on PC only were able to join the Caspian servers only to find out half the map on the US side is literally a huge field of nothingness, and that doesn't touch on how the tower doesn't fall despite them showing that in trailers.
Then you've got stuff like the flashlights straight up blinding people that barely got fixed or the completely broken suppression mechanic.
Also the game had insane input lag on the PS3 version of the game that the only way to could fix it was to add a disable either AA option or V sync, and that didn't even work still for a lot of people.
BF4 was broke for the entire first year it was out that people started boycotting the game because of how bad the netcode and hitboxes were so we eventually got the CTE but even then some of the CTE stuff never made it into the final game like Siege of Shanghai at night, or how they had to downgrade Dragon Valley because of there being too many vehicles for consoles.
The BF3 beta originally only had Operation Metro Rush which is probably the absolute worst map to ever exist in this franchise, and then someone on PC managed to get the conquest version of the map to load and found out it was even smaller than the Rush version of the map which caused meltdowns.
Then they had that YouTuber event where they were gonna showcase Caspian Border on password protected servers, but someone leaked the password so everyone on PC only were able to join the Caspian servers only to find out half the map on the US side is literally a huge field of nothingness, and that doesn't touch on how the tower doesn't fall despite them showing that in trailers.
Then you've got stuff like the flashlights straight up blinding people that barely got fixed or the completely broken suppression mechanic.
Also the game had insane input lag on the PS3 version of the game that the only way to could fix it was to add a disable either AA option or V sync, and that didn't even work still for a lot of people.
BF4 was broke for the entire first year it was out that people started boycotting the game because of how bad the netcode and hitboxes were so we eventually got the CTE but even then some of the CTE stuff never made it into the final game like Siege of Shanghai at night, or how they had to downgrade Dragon Valley because of there being too many vehicles for consoles.
This is funny. Is that what's taught in Europe to try and justify how the Germans overran the continent so quickly? The United States had essentially no army until 1941. Roosevelt started an precedented peacetime draft after the Phony War turned hot in 1940. The United States started providing aid to the UK and USSR in 1940 starting with the Destroyers for Bases program and arms shipments, without which it's unlikely that the USSR would have been able to hold on.
So no, the United States did not "refuse to participate", since it wasn't in immediate danger Roosevelt felt it better to properly prepare the country and allies in terms of war mobilization before attempting direct intervention. Roosevelt was in constant contact with Churchill to plan the Liberation of Europe. If the Japanese didn't attack the US would have went into Europe in early 1942.
Ignore list for you.
Ignore him, he's not even worth it. Just comes to shit on BF in every single thread.
They overran the continent so quickly because absolutely nobody did anything and let Germany, Italy and Japan run amok, it was a total and utter fuck up when you look back on it.
And no it's not taught in Europe, it is taught that the US didn't take part in the early War because
A) like you say, there was no immediate threat to the US, the US had other priorities.
B) The US was in a major economic depression and couldn't afford to amass a huge army and even if they could the American people didn't want a War.
C)Yes, when push come to shove the US helped Britain out with Aid and Loan weapons/ships. The US decided to build it's armies, navies and air forces in anticipation.
I wasn't saying there was an expectation of the US joining Allied forces earlier on. I was simply saying that the US refused to join the War for the first 2 years and there were loads of battles which would be interesting to see in BFV. It's not hard to understand so please don't make it out like I was saying anything wrong.
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A WW2 game can only be iconic with Japanese and American soldiers? Despite the fact the Europe was fighting for 3 years before America got involved?
I didn't buy BF1 until the Revolution version was $20. Part of me regretted being a latecomer because I was enjoying myself, but going through the struggle of unlocking the nicer guns. Something longtime players already had.
So if it's a game that interests you, it can be worth buying in when it's fresh.
So if it's a game that interests you, it can be worth buying in when it's fresh.
Hopefully they are, I think Dice should give us the option of choosing which Allied force you play as depending who participated in the battle.
You should as the gunplay and movement is the best it has been since years. And the game is way more tactical and slower paced. Wich a old skool BF fan can appreciate also.
You will definitely have US or Canada specific uniforms and hats, but I don't know how much of it is going to make into the current season (Fall of Europe).
I dunno I've been having fun in the beta... Guess I'm the only one. I'm still going to wait a bit before I purchase though.
There's the argument getting at launch will give you a advantage, because you will get used to the new things first. It also means you will have more time to enjoy the multiplayer since getting down the line means getting closer to when the servers will close.
Plus, with Battlefield, it's very important to know all maps .Joining late means everyone knows the map except for you, means you will be spawn sniped more often than you want, means you'll hate dying a lot.
Well, my reasons for not buying at launch aren't the ones you listed, but I still won't be buying at launch.
As I've liked to say for every Battlefield since BF3:
"I'll buy it when it's fixed."
There is at least one massive bug where you go to the respawn screen and get stuck there (has something to do with Critical Deaths, I think). You have to quit out entirely when you encounter this. Major bummer.
Currently there are the typical Battlefield server disconnects, and issues with dropping party members while joining a game. I DO have to give some credit where it's due...the party system here and in BF1 were massive improvements from previous games. Hell, BF4 didn't even have a party system at launch at ALL, and it took a couple of months to get one.
Now, they DO have 2 months to work these issues out, and I'm hoping they can get there. But, I will not purchase it until I have confirmation that these things are fixed. Could be the day after launch, or a week after, or whatever. I can wait.
As I've liked to say for every Battlefield since BF3:
"I'll buy it when it's fixed."
There is at least one massive bug where you go to the respawn screen and get stuck there (has something to do with Critical Deaths, I think). You have to quit out entirely when you encounter this. Major bummer.
Currently there are the typical Battlefield server disconnects, and issues with dropping party members while joining a game. I DO have to give some credit where it's due...the party system here and in BF1 were massive improvements from previous games. Hell, BF4 didn't even have a party system at launch at ALL, and it took a couple of months to get one.
Now, they DO have 2 months to work these issues out, and I'm hoping they can get there. But, I will not purchase it until I have confirmation that these things are fixed. Could be the day after launch, or a week after, or whatever. I can wait.
I don't usually play SP for COD so it doesn't bother me. Never touched the SP in WW2. Prob wouldn't you touch SP in this game neither.
Is this a serious post? Come on man, you know better than to make this comparison.
The same reviews that praised BF1 almost exclusively because of the War Stories despite negating that the gameplay was heavily dumbed down and did not play anything like BF?
After playing the beta this weekend, the answer is simple: because it's fun.
I don't know about you guys, but I play games to have fun, and I find this to be fun.
I don't know about you guys, but I play games to have fun, and I find this to be fun.
The game isn't done, it's just laughable EA is trying to mask this with excuses and that tiny delay
Just push to spring and release it in its entirety
Just push to spring and release it in its entirety
just to add my two pence in, but I'd take 32 guns over 83 any day. That's a silly amount of weapons that I'll never touch,
That's a bonus. More dedicated resources to the modes 99% of the people play Call of Duty for
Germain SP Campaign in a WWII shooter alone is enough for me to get it, even if a a week or two after launch.
I'd say Bad Company 1 at least kind of kept some of the trappings of the classic games. BCII introduced most of the garbage we see today, culminating in BF4 which was absolute trash tier.
BF1 thankfully brought back the feeling of genuine combined arms gameplay for the first time since 2142, where you'd see a tank rolling onto a point or a bomber flying up and genuinely panic a bit as infantry. Or being in a destroyer or blimp on Hegioland and escorting those little troop transport boats around. No wonder all the BF4 fans hated it.
BFV looks like it's bringing back the trappings of the classic infantry gameplay, but I doubt the vehicle gameplay will be as interesting.
Says the guy with some shitty anime avatar.
Hey look, i can be judgemental too.
Yes! They need to remake that for next year's release, and copy this game's Battle Royale mode and Rush as added modes. Give away for free (or $15?), and watch it make millions in MTX.
I don't see any point in it either. I got into BF1 around the time they've release 3/4 DLC-s for free, and the game had already been on EA Acces for a while now.
What I missed out on was mostly the playerbase. In return I got the most polished version of the game, for the price of EA Access.
As Operations was my favorite mode, and my goal was to reach the 2000G, playing the Operations Campaign with a few CQ matches worked out fine sticking to EU servers all the time. The weapons were fun to unlock, and even in downtimes, when I didn't progress with the unlocks, the gameplay loop was very enjoyable. I never felt useless to the team, and even if there were some Lv150 players, they still had pretty much the same equipment I did (which isn't the case in the current BFV beta at all).
At least I got to spend most of my time on Verdun, Achi Baba, Heligoland, Passchendaele and Somme, intstead of Grappa, Suez or Empire's Egde, which I all detested.
What I missed out on was mostly the playerbase. In return I got the most polished version of the game, for the price of EA Access.
As Operations was my favorite mode, and my goal was to reach the 2000G, playing the Operations Campaign with a few CQ matches worked out fine sticking to EU servers all the time. The weapons were fun to unlock, and even in downtimes, when I didn't progress with the unlocks, the gameplay loop was very enjoyable. I never felt useless to the team, and even if there were some Lv150 players, they still had pretty much the same equipment I did (which isn't the case in the current BFV beta at all).
At least I got to spend most of my time on Verdun, Achi Baba, Heligoland, Passchendaele and Somme, intstead of Grappa, Suez or Empire's Egde, which I all detested.
It's not a series for me honestly. Only reason I would buy it is to add to the sales while the man children scream about no women in WW2.
Out of curiosity, which Battlefield games had their servers closed? Any console games?