why does Doom soundtrack on 32x sound like farts?

Era of not Yakuza · Jul 22, 2018

Edit: thanks for the info, this is the real version

Rest easy era, it still sound like farts

A friend just sent me this and we started laughing about how bad this port is. I know the story behind the 3do version, crazy stuff, but this one is hilarious.

Doom is really one of his kind, this game is part of the very history of gaming, to think that from 1993 to 2018 people have fond memories and histories to share about it.

Deleted member 71 · Jul 22, 2018

That's a joke version, but the real one isn't much better lol

Carnby · Jul 22, 2018

Lol. Funny song but that's fake.

Maximum Spider · Jul 22, 2018

LOL.

First time I heard this I lost my shit.

Era of not Yakuza · Jul 22, 2018

Cisce said:
That's a joke version, but the real one isn't much better lol

Bwahahahahahhaahha
I thought that I was pranked but that version is as bad as the one they sent me.

Kolx · Jul 22, 2018

This's the quality threads I expect when I visit resetera.

~Fake · Jul 22, 2018

I don't know. Is 32X have a bad audio chip?

Dezzy · Jul 22, 2018

That's hilarious, and sadly it's actually not that different sounding than the actual 32X music. When I bought this game on the 32X back in the day, I seriously thought something was wrong with my system and I was checking all the cables and everything.

KDash · Jul 22, 2018

I think the music wasn't properly redone for it, something along the lines of just throwing the PC midi files in there (though I could be wrong).

It's actually the only version of the game that I own. Heh.

Edit: Just heard the fake version. No clue how that sounds "close" to the real thing. Anyway, I never heard these so called sounds that others do. It just sounds like poor midi to me. Heh.

ASaiyan · Jul 22, 2018

Yeah you made a mistake OP. This is the real 32X version of the song.

For real though, why did so many console ports of DOOM mess up the music? And/or make the bizarre choice to leave it out entirely...

Shadow · Jul 22, 2018

Just need to change this to sounds like ass.

Atolm · Jul 22, 2018

~Fake said:
I don't know. Is 32X have a bad audio chip?

No, actually the 32x had a quite decent sound chip for what it was, and it could be used in tandem with the Yamaha from the Mega Drive.

Doom's issues seem more like product of a rushed port. 32x in a nutshell, basically.

Xiaomi · Jul 22, 2018

Farts from the butt of a console add-on that the 32x was.

More probably it was because it used the same YM2612 sound chip as the Genesis with occasional higher fidelity voice and percussion samples, and a lot of devs didn't add any more sound hardware to their carts or put in the work to make that chip sound good.

Pop-O-Matic · Jul 22, 2018

Because it's a Genesis game.

Rlan · Jul 22, 2018

Doom could have been a lot better, if the right people had the music.

jwhit28 · Jul 22, 2018

You really had to put in work to get good Genesis music. The tool Sega handed out was only as good as it's user and a lot of the time games would use bad presets.

~Fake · Jul 22, 2018

Atolm said:
No, actually the 32x had a quite decent sound chip for what it was, and it could be used in tandem with the Yamaha from the Mega Drive.

Doom's issues seem more like product of a rushed port. 32x in a nutshell, basically.

I believe so. I lost the times I re-watched DF retro of Doom. Maybe with proper time... but in my time people used to praise so much Super Nintendo audio chip and I kinda agree.

Fat4all · Jul 22, 2018

i remember the jaguar version being a bit wonk too when it came to the music

VariantX · Jul 22, 2018

The prank version sounds better.

Deleted member 12790 · Jul 22, 2018

Fat4all said:
i remember the jaguar version being a bit wonk too when it came to the music

The jaguar version doesn't have music

lazygecko can explain the problems with Doom's music much better than anyone else on this forum can. Isn't it literally out of tune in places? The TL;DR is that the music for doom was run through a converter that was poor at it's job, where FM synthesis is more ike playing an actual instrument in that hand crafting your music will produce better results. You hear things like the conversion from real instruments to the sonic soundtracks, and those are things that are basically Megadrive covers of the real music done by hand.

Era of not Yakuza · Jul 22, 2018

jwhit28 said:
You really had to put in work to get good Genesis music. The tool Sega handed out was only as good as it's user and a lot of the time games would use bad presets.

Nice video, thanks for sharing with us. today kids can port an audio of any extension available and do what they want, mod games, even include dub. But back in the day...

Fat4all · Jul 22, 2018

Krejlooc said:
The jaguar version doesn't have music

not during gameplay, no, but it had versions of various tracks in the game and they weren't very good

Odrion · Jul 22, 2018

32X wasn't that bad of a port.

It was playable, which is a lot more than what can be said about the SNES, 3D0, and Sega Saturn versions. And it came out in 1994, when Doom's technology was still exciting and top of the line.

Deleted member 4359 · Jul 22, 2018

Use of the Mega Drive hardware for sound instead of it's proper sound hardware that was really good, however something of a plague developed with games humping all the Mega hardware due to short dev time and lack of experience programming for the entire system really, as it goes.

Glendemonium · Jul 22, 2018

The Genesis-32X era were bad on the ears. Sonic games were the outlier, but most genesis games sounded like they used a combination of synthwave and fart machine. Even some sound effects were just as bad. It took me out of both Xmen games and a few other ports.

Shauni · Jul 22, 2018

Oh my God, that gag version is killing me lol

Vivian-Pogo · Jul 22, 2018

Lmao, I'm crying. I can't handle this

Even the original is cracking me up.

Windrunner · Jul 22, 2018

Because it was a rushed game and it used the awful GEMS sound engine that many other western Mega Drive games used: https://segaretro.org/GEMS

It's not a coincidence that all the good Mega Drive music is from Japanese games.

Pop-O-Matic said:
Because it's a Genesis game.

Wrong. Mega Drive music is awesome.

Davoid · Jul 22, 2018

Slayven · Jul 22, 2018

Why is it so funny? I am dying

LewieP · Jul 22, 2018

Ass blast processing.

Windrunner · Jul 22, 2018

Glendemonium said:
The Genesis-32X era were bad on the ears. Sonic games were the outlier, but most genesis games sounded like they used a combination of synthwave and fart machine. Even some sound effects were just as bad. It took me out of both Xmen games and a few other ports.

You didn't play many good games on it then. Mega Drive music (that doesn't use GEMS) has aged wonderfully:

This meme about Mega Drive music being bad really needs to die.

JCW · Jul 22, 2018

3DO version is renowned terrible but this version of At Doom's Gate is really good. 1.25x speed is close to the original as well.

Velocity:Design:Comfort · Jul 22, 2018

Odrion said:
32X wasn't that bad of a port.

It was playable, which is a lot more than what can be said about the SNES, 3D0, and Sega Saturn versions. And it came out in 1994, when Doom's technology was still exciting and top of the line.

That's pretty embarassing, how was the saturn or 3do one worse? I thought those were much stronger than the 32x.

yogurt · Jul 22, 2018

DAMN why is that so funny? I'm losing my shit laughing over here.

Jawmuncher · Jul 22, 2018

Easily the best rendition of the doom theme still. Right up there with the masterpiece basement theme from the resident evil greatest hits directors cut.

javac · Jul 22, 2018

let it rip and tear

Pop-O-Matic · Jul 22, 2018

Velocity:Design:Comfort said:
That's pretty embarassing, how was the saturn or 3do one worse? I thought those were much stronger than the 32x.

The above Digital Foundry video on the Doom console ports goes more in depth, but the short version is:

3DO: The company that got the rights to port the game were completely incompetent, thinking you could just create new weapons in MSPaint and then directly drop it into the game and have it work and other such dumbfuckery, and they only hired someone who actually had some computer programming skills to fix their shit with a few weeks to go until it shipped.

Saturn: The devs had a better build of the game that utilized the Saturn's unique hardware and would have easily been the best Doom port to date, but John Carmack vetoed it because he was hung up about texture warping, resulting in them instead being forced to make a horribly gimped, poor performing port of the PS1 version instead.

Freakylinks · Jul 22, 2018

omg reading the title of thread i knew exactly what you was talking about but playing that fake one is fantastic :D never heard it before lmao

Benji · Jul 22, 2018

Holy shit I straight up almost started crying I was laughing so hard at this thread

The original and the joke version both are hilarious

Giga Man · Jul 22, 2018

Ewwww, it sounds so wet!
I'm fucking dying!

Your Cousin Vinny · Jul 22, 2018

FM synthesis at its finest. Mmmmmm.

Era of not Yakuza · Jul 22, 2018

Shauni said:
Oh my God, that gag version is killing me lol

Vivian-Pogo said:
Lmao, I'm crying. I can't handle this

Even the original is cracking me up.

Slayven said:
Why is it so funny? I am dying

yogurt said:
DAMN why is that so funny? I'm losing my shit laughing over here.

Yeah, right? For a second I was sad realizing that it was just a joke BUT then I heard the original sound and it was so close that I LMAO

Deleted member 14377 · Jul 22, 2018

holy shit, this is killing me. This is the perfect soundtrack to derailing your own thread with your own OP

Anth0ny · Jul 22, 2018

the fact that the joke version sounds so close to the real version is amazing

Pasokon Deacon · Jul 23, 2018

Glendemonium said:
Sonic games were the outlier, but most genesis games sounded like they used a combination of synthwave and fart machine. Even some sound effects were just as bad.

I get that you got taken out of the experience because of the FM-synth music in these Mega Drive/32X games, but "synthwave" doesn't make any sense for what you're describing (that's a music genre/style). "Fart machine" is a dumb insult because the FM-synth sound chips used in these machines are very capable of sounds way beyond the atonal, poorly programmed blasts heard in this shoddy Doom port.

Jaypah · Jul 23, 2018

Rlan said:
Doom could have been a lot better, if the right people had the music.

Was this done on real MD/Genny hardware?

andymcc · Jul 23, 2018

Pop-O-Matic said:
Because it's a Genesis game.

Quality post

Psyrgery · Jul 23, 2018

The audio chip in the genesis needs a bit of working in order to get a decent sound, but if you give it enough love it can sound awesome (Mr. Koshiro and Tallarico might want to have a word of two with those who still claim that the Genesis sounds like farts).

Basically, the DooM 32X port was so rushed, the developers used a Midi to FM synth convertor and called it a day. They didn't even bothered to properly convert the drums track, that's why it sounds awful.

Deleted member 21709 · Jul 23, 2018

I never understood why people made fun of the MD's sound chip, I guess it is a system wars meme that stuck.

why does Doom soundtrack on 32x sound like farts?

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