rip pilotsSomething like this is probably far more feasible
Why don't passenger jets have an emergency system to drop passengers out with parachutes?
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My apologies, but in my haste I was attempting to ELI5 for OP
I can't imagine the legal and safety clusterfucks of dropping people out of an airplane with no training and with little preperation.
If you drop the passengers over water you also gotta arm everyone with harpoon guns to fend away the sharks
Hundreds of people suddenly parachuting together from jet altitude sounds just as dangerous as a crash landing, if not more.
Taxes?
On topic, even if it was possible and financially viable. I wonder what kind of range the parachutes would land in. IE is someone going to land in a tree 50 miles away from someone who lands on a high voltage wire and gets cooked?
Yea, look back at most airplane accidents....
Don't think its feasible to drop a compartment or such and ensure that it will not be destroyed too. Either angles of plane, the speed, the heading, the terrain etc etc. Way too messy to be doing that logistically.
Don't think its feasible to drop a compartment or such and ensure that it will not be destroyed too. Either angles of plane, the speed, the heading, the terrain etc etc. Way too messy to be doing that logistically.
most plane accidents occur during take off or landing. dropping people out at 30k feet will kill them by asphyxiation and turn them into falling ice corpses. a catastrophic break up of the plane (say a wing or tail breaking off) will put the plane into a death spiral that no person can safely escape from.
They got their licenses. They knew what they were getting into. I say let em crash.
I’m not sure such a system would work but if it did I’m sure they could move to the passenger cabin. If the plane is going down there probably isn’t much they can do in the cockpit anyways.
That looks so ridiculous Dahir Insaat probably designed it.Something like this is probably far more feasible
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I can see from many comments talking about the parachutes. These wouldn't be "personal" parachutes, the passengers would be fastened in their seats, the parachutes would automatically deploy themselves without the passenger having to do it.
The fuel, you do know that most planes store their fuel in the wings right? Some do have a center tank (between the wings) you could simply get around this by forgoing seats over that tank, make it like the storage/flight attendant area where they serve drinks/food from and such so it isn't wasted space.
The luggage? Just drop it, I mean I don't think anyone is gonna give a shit in this case if their bag is dropped.
As far as the speed and drop, that is an issue I haven't figured out yet.
No not every chair. Have the chairs sectioned off into groups like say 12 seats to each section for one chute to carry the weight.
The fuel, you do know that most planes store their fuel in the wings right? Some do have a center tank (between the wings) you could simply get around this by forgoing seats over that tank, make it like the storage/flight attendant area where they serve drinks/food from and such so it isn't wasted space.
The luggage? Just drop it, I mean I don't think anyone is gonna give a shit in this case if their bag is dropped.
As far as the speed and drop, that is an issue I haven't figured out yet.
The chutes would automatically deploy once the seats are dropped, the passenger would just need to be strapped in their seat securely and not have to do anything stupid.
Yeah, the procedure to make it used greek fire so it's kinda hard to replicate.
I read somewhere it's cheaper to settle on deaths from a major accident than injuries/deaths that would occur from the misuse of parachutes.
Also, imagine jumping out a plane and getting sucked straight into the engine.
Also, imagine jumping out a plane and getting sucked straight into the engine.
I don't know the stats, but every time I've seen this brought up, it's pointed out that most crashes happen during take off or landing where a parachute system wouldn't work. So then you are designing a super complicated, expensive safety solution that would work in like 1% of crashes.
So we’re dropping a significant portion of an aircraft from tens of thousands of feet?
Not to mention just because there aren’t fuel tanks in the center doesn’t mean there isn’t critical lines and other connections running through the area. You’d have to simultaneously close off anything running there and explosively remove the section you’re dropping.
I took a 7 hour course once so I could jump out of a plane at 13,000 ft with 2 skydive instructors with me to make sure I pulled at the right time and like half of it was on how a parachute operates
Shit ain't easy, I was terrified I was going to break both my legs on landing with the chute
Shit ain't easy, I was terrified I was going to break both my legs on landing with the chute
I just found skydiving jumps for $80 including a rented chute.
As low as $25 with BYOC.
So figure $55 to rent a parachute that's being used every flight.
I remember back in the day on an old forum (not that one), there was a thread and OP that proposed building a giant pumping system to move excess atmosphere from Venus to Mars.
This parachute is better than the giant space pipe, I'll give you that.
This parachute is better than the giant space pipe, I'll give you that.
This. Cargo doesn't have to breathe.
The highest a human can safely jump with no oxygen (or special prep) is 15,000 feet. Even then, if you don't have gloves, expect some cold ass fingers.
Speed kills.
Like literally it would actually rip the passengers apart or if they survive it, they would be frozen solid because of high altitudes these planes are operating from.
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And what happens when a section of seats land in a tree and dump everyone on their heads, breaking necks? The flimsy safety belt is not equivalent of being in a five point harness unless we re-engineer every seat to be like a racing seat with a roll cage.
Many reasons why they don't just do this...
- Expect passengers but then find out the pilot can land begs the question of when is the time to pull it?
- I think there are weight restrictions on parachutes that could cause problems.
- Unless the whole plane gets disconnected, all it takes is one person to have their arms in the wrong place and they can get snagged and then sue. No one listens to those emergency rule things.
- Speaking of no one paying attention, parachutes usually work if the user is operating the controls and they go through training. You can't just have a chute attached to a chair and have everything turn out well.
- Putting the parachute on a seat would probably require most of the technology taken off the seat since it would need not to be connected to anything to really just fall out.
- It would really require passengers to wear real seatbelts, the one the flight attendants wear that go across your chest.
A lot of this forum operates on that mentality. They just forgot the realization part.
you end up with 300 people who probably have never used a parachute before gliding to where the fuck ever and probably untrackable in the woods somewhere stuck in a tree