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Why is fascism spreading across the world in the 2010s?
- Thread starter Bronx-Man
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in the US at least this all happened because voters got complacent during Obama era and assumed that everything was gonna be fine on the other side. Apparently only 60 percent of eligible voters actually voted. 40 percent sleeping on the job or didn't want it to be their problem. But guess what, it is now :(
It will be almost 100 years since fascism first arose all over the world. The people that had first had experience it back then are likely dead, dying or have no more agency to tell thier stories. Whole populations are literally forgetting the horrors of fascism. Up next in the next few decades, communism! The next fifty years are gonna be fun!
Mark Blyth (Professor of Political Economy at Brown University) has had a few talks about it. You can find them on youtube. Basic premise is that a lot of it is driven by economics disparity.
Yeah, especially after that PBS Frontline special about Facebook, it's hard not to make the connection.
Normal people were Netflixing every day relaxing while hateful shitheads were organizing online. We are starting to wake up and take back our countries.
The generations that saw the world fight over nationalism are dying down. The survivors of those genocides are as well.
Now we have generations of people that are trained to not believe what they read, reading about the holocaust.
Here's an example: https://www.thejc.com/news/world/in...eard-of-the-holocaust-survey-reveals-1.473131
In France, a fifth of young people 'have never heard of the Holocaust', survey reveals
A third of Europeans say they know either 'just a little' or nothing at all about the events of 75 years ago
Now we have generations of people that are trained to not believe what they read, reading about the holocaust.
Here's an example: https://www.thejc.com/news/world/in...eard-of-the-holocaust-survey-reveals-1.473131
In France, a fifth of young people 'have never heard of the Holocaust', survey reveals
A third of Europeans say they know either 'just a little' or nothing at all about the events of 75 years ago
i personally believe it to be a reaction to the imposition of neoliberal austerity. because the center left and right have aligned behind such punishing policies which have shattered normal peoples trust in the polity, a vacuum has been created where so called populists have found room to grow, often by preying on peoples fear and distrust - stoking paranoia about borders and race are effective and powerful ways of appealing to people already feeling deeply isolated and forgotten.
After the great recession, we are still seeing growing inequality between the richest people and the rest of us. Record breaking profits, yet we still see stagnating wages and work conditions.
People blame their situation on a variety of scapegoats, right wing politics and media lean into nationalism and populism.
People blame their situation on a variety of scapegoats, right wing politics and media lean into nationalism and populism.
Typically after recessions politics tend right, during prosperous periods it tends left
And I think the swings get more extreme as the decades go by
Along with a ton of other crazy factors though I'm sure
And I think the swings get more extreme as the decades go by
Along with a ton of other crazy factors though I'm sure
It's mostly a delayed response to the Great Recession and its aftermath, which saw the enactment of harsh austerity policies in Europe that galvanized the far-right and other euroskeptic movements (UKIP and Brexit). In the United States, Trump is a rebuke to an establishment elite that failed to heed the problems of the poor after the Great Recession. In Brazil, Bolsonaro represents the backlash to Dilma's inept governance and the Lava Jato scandal that exposed the corruption of Brazil's government after 2008. The rise of the far-right is tied to the Great Recession.
We're still in the Wild West of things like having a damn car
Now we ramped up to having superpowerful computers in our pockets and a consistent way to get your opinion out immediately and potentially having it reach millions
Everybody has a voice
Which ends in disaster
Now we ramped up to having superpowerful computers in our pockets and a consistent way to get your opinion out immediately and potentially having it reach millions
Everybody has a voice
Which ends in disaster
Internet + dumb racist people is a big factor.
Decline in home values is linked to right wing swings in the US.
Who on the center left is pushing austerity? That's very much a right wing thing.
The internet is giving these people a platform, a place to gather, and a place to spread disinformation. It's giving them pseudocredibility in the eyes of their followers.
Just looking at the news, it's easy to see how some countries are seeing stuff that is frightening everyday.
The internet makes you see even more everyday.
The more affraid you are, the less "smart" you get and the less you think rationally.
Because of that, you tend to hear only what you want and what you feel would be reassuring from a primal standpoint.
Differences, and unknown are things that our mind finds weird and frightening.
When you are told that "those ones" (immigrants, some religious people, environmentalists - can be pretty much anything) who are/think different will probably change your way of life to something you don't know, you get affraid, and want it not to happen.
So, you reject those people and center onto people who tell you that they'll do something to prevent those changes and you end up with fascism.
The internet makes you see even more everyday.
The more affraid you are, the less "smart" you get and the less you think rationally.
Because of that, you tend to hear only what you want and what you feel would be reassuring from a primal standpoint.
Differences, and unknown are things that our mind finds weird and frightening.
When you are told that "those ones" (immigrants, some religious people, environmentalists - can be pretty much anything) who are/think different will probably change your way of life to something you don't know, you get affraid, and want it not to happen.
So, you reject those people and center onto people who tell you that they'll do something to prevent those changes and you end up with fascism.
sure jan
That was a totally disgusting poster. The idea that the 17.4m people that subsequently voted for Brexit support fascism is absolutely mental, though.
Bad people with lots of money, and poor people with no money who look like those bad people. The bad people promise the poor people that without these other people, the poor people could succeed, too.
Reductionist, to be clear.
Reductionist, to be clear.
Merkel was a big proponent of austerity after the Great Recession and her country is now the focal point of a revived far-right in the form of AfD.
Merkel is not left by anyones standards, EU or NA.
The CDU was pulled massively leftward by the grand coalition. And they still ended up center right.
The global recession basically. The governments of the world did little to actually address it's underlying issues and people eventually started blaming immigrants and brown people for their new economic realities
They really did a great job making it obvious by almost copying old Nazi propaganda
sure jan
Agree. Conservatives, who are strict adherents to neoliberalism, tend to be the ones that become fascists. The question is why..
Coordinated effort to get these places bleach white. Constant othering has a ceiling. Something is always going to happen.
Yes the Democrats who *check notes* passed a stimulus and who did not support austerity measures.
Good god.
If you are in the same voting bloc as all the fascists you need to take a hard look in the mirror.
this and social media and big tech being so easy to manipulate by certain interests
Correlation doesn't equal causation and all that, but World War II occurred not long after the Great Depression. I agree that far right ideology tends to thrive in times of economic hardship.
Fucking up the German recovery postWW1 by being overly harsh is pretty applicable to the austerity bullshit.
Racism, misguided perceptions about job displacement, irrational fear of a different world.
With that said, people shouldnt pretend there are NO downsides to globalism. I think the benefits far outweigh the downsides, but they do exist. I think the neoliberal wing of the democrats and other left of center/ center left parties around the world have done a bad job addressing the less positive aspects of the global economy, and right wing reactionaries have capitalized on it.
With that said, people shouldnt pretend there are NO downsides to globalism. I think the benefits far outweigh the downsides, but they do exist. I think the neoliberal wing of the democrats and other left of center/ center left parties around the world have done a bad job addressing the less positive aspects of the global economy, and right wing reactionaries have capitalized on it.