Don't forget, profitable too. Even BvS made money. Maybe not as much as it could have, sure. Even trash like Suicide Squad made a killing. So you may not like the DCEU, but it has a few critical hits, and basically all of them were financial hits. Hardly a failure by most metrics.
If you can't remove casting from other issues from the movies then yeah... but I think this is a very myopic view and doesn't really address the real issue.DCEU fails because it doesn't have RDJ, Chris Hemsworth, Tom Hiddleston, Jon Favreau, Samuel L. Jackson.
I know a lot of people hate the stories and writing, but I honestly believe the cast itself is bad and the core problem.
Nolan's Batman movies was awesome because he had fantastic actors in it.
But this Justice League group is mostly awful, save Gal Gadot and Jason MoMoa.
Supes Cavill sucks.
Lex Eisenberg sucks.
The entire Suicide Squad sucks.
Bad casting is a big problem.
I agree with this. They started with the big guns and it's kind of hard to start a universe with a character that's kind of limitless in the audiences eyes. Batman is similar in that he's "dark" and it's hard to connect a universe to that too.It's just Superman, really. The problem is Superman is the foundation everything else was built on, so it's exceptionally hard for the good work that's done to properly course-correct. The DCEU would probably be fine if they'd just done a hard break after BvS and said "everything else is in a new universe".
Gadot and Momoa were great in their roles.If you can't remove casting from other issues from the movies then yeah... but I think this is a very myopic view and doesn't really address the real issue.
Affleck and Eisenberg are better actors than Gadot and Mamoa. But because Mamoa and Gadot were in better movies you seem to give them a pass.
It's kind of weird. DC superhero movies will keep going but the DCEU as we know it is effectively dead.
Hard disagree on this. Both could have been great if given decent material to work with. They needed a shot at the characters with out Snyder's interference.
It's been so long since I watched that movie, how did the ending differ again and why was it so bad?
They tried to ape the Nolan movies, which were simply dark in look and mature in tone, while still having a core you can root for. Humans are flawed, but deserve a chance. Snyders vision is fuck humans and you can't trust Superman.
The action sucks. Yes, it is on the more kinetic side, but action tells a story and the story its telling is Superman gives zero fucks except for the lasereyes moment.
Casting a guy Affleck's age as Batman for their first in-universe Batman film really said everything you needed to know about the lack of vision and forethought for DCEU.
Yeah it certainly says something that a movie like TDK (and especially Rises) is considerably more optimistic than Man of Steel.They tried to ape the Nolan movies, which were simply dark in look and mature in tone, while still having a core you can root for. Humans are flawed, but deserve a chance. Snyders vision is fuck humans and you can't trust Superman.
Which is fine if you give people something to root for or atleast to be interested in. But Snyder ain't having that.