Why is tinnitus inducing volume at pubs/clubs normalized?

[Pankratous]

Like yeah the music should be loud, not saying it shouldn't, dancing and listening to music should be the main activities, but so loud that you can't hear someone who's shouting directly into your ear?

Like, what is the need for that? Our generation is going to have record breaking tinnitus numbers as we get older.

Who's even enjoying it being that loud? If it was a house party and the music was up that loud everyone would moan to have it turned down so any any different in a pub and club?

 

[WildZero]

It's so that you're not wasting your drinking time talking to people. The faster you drink, the more money you spend.

 

[lvl 99 Pixel]

Yelling over the music to order drinks was always awkward. The 700% markup on drink prices was also insane.

 

[Megabreath]

For sure, i feel sorry for the staff

 

[Cocolina]

in a pub or bar, yes it's annoying

at a club, whole point is you're dancing and there are areas that are quieter if you want a conversation...crank that shit

 

[Martinski]

It's why i was fed up like the 2nd time i was out 'clubbing' and not done it since over a decade ago.

 

[BLEEN]

For sure, i feel sorry for the staff

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I was gonna say... you can just leave lol but obviously if people are still coming, it works.

The staff are fucked. I'm with you.

If shit's too loud for me, I dip out, decongest, vape a bit, walk back in, rinse, repeat until I'm drunk enough not to care lol 😆

 

[Engell]

just wear earplugs.. but yes it should be regulated as a work environment

 

[Burli]

Yeah it's frustrating, I was at a post-wedding club last week and spent the whole time not being able to hear people (nor them me) while worrying it could worsen my tinnitus. What WildZero said though, it benefits the establishment for you to choose to awkwardly drink instead because talking's a no go.

 

[beelulzebub]

As someone that has constant, 40-ish dB. ringing in my ears at all times, can't tell enough how frustrating it is when people I know shrug this shit off. You do NOT want my ears, trust me.

 

[Kinketsu]

Never understood it in a pub in the evening, I was usually going there to hang out with friends so not being able to hear what the fuck anyone was talking about outside of MAYBE the person right beside me always seemed like a waste of time and money. Always seemed to make more sense to go to one our houses outside of the occasions where it was more convenient due to work schedules or there was something like a pub quiz going on and the music was mostly off.

 

[gdt]

Honestly never been in a bar that loud. Club is another story, should be loud there 🤷🏽‍♂️

 

[AstronaughtE]

I always thought it was so you can't hear your conscience.

 

[CortexVortex]

If it's like that in a Pub or bar it's annoying as you go there to talk with people.
But the whole point of a club is dancing and having fun.

 

[shaneo632]

Yeah I can't stomach it anymore. I much prefer going to a pub where there's no music tbh.

I have no idea how bar stuff in clubs deal with taking orders over that level of noise. It would drive me insane.

 

[Hoggle]

That's why I go to secluded little cocktail bars now. So much better being able to talk to friends or dates.

 

[Hyun Sai]

You don't need music that loud to dance anyway. This should be way more regulated than this, especially for the workers.

 

[Shadow]

As someone that has constant, 40-ish dB. ringing in my ears at all times, can't tell enough how frustrating it is when people I know shrug this shit off. You do NOT want my ears, trust me.

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For this reason it should be required to have music at safe volumes at most places. Concerts I understand so everyone there can hear it, that's what earplugs are for. It's not just "haha oh well, that was loud for a moment!" it's permanent damage to your body you'll never get back. Like looking into the sun until your vision gets damaged.

 

[Thorn]

Extroverts...

 

[Deleted member 23158]

With pubs I completely agree.

I use ear plugs for (techno) clubs and festivals. I bought those Alphine party plugs at a festival, they work really well imo.

From what I understand people are already properly screwing up their ears with their own headsets.

 

[dunkzilla]

Pubs? Yeah unless it's live music and music should be down quite low. Music in pubs should add to the atmosphere not replace it.

Clubs though, that's pretty much what they're for. Loud music, dancing and having fun.

 

[teruterubozu]

Probably cuz everyone who works there have lost their hearing.

 

[Schwarzbier]

So I come at this as a professional audio engineer. Most people like it loud, very loud. I've mixed for tens of thousands and for the most part in my experience most people like it very loud. I've mixed shows where I'm stuffing cotton and plugs down my canals yet nobody even says boo about it. It's a culture of loudness and most people are all in.

 

[HiLife]

I couldn't stand clubbing for that reason. I like loud music but it's just too egregious in that situation. I understand that's what the club is but at times I thought that shit was louder than actual concerts. Too loud. Too cramped. Too musty.

Idk about pubs but drinking at a brewery is fun because you can actually converse with people considering you can clearly hear them.

 

[Guppeth]

A nightclub should be loud. The bass should rattle your bones. Music everywhere and everywhere music. Anyone who goes to a nightclub to talk is doing it wrong. It's like going to a swimming pool to eat pizza.

Generally, in a pub, I'm there to socialise and even a noisy pub with a dancefloor should have some quiet areas where people can chat. I really detest loud pubs and avoid them. Especially so if the noise is a bunch of TVs showing sport.

There should be clubs that play quiet music, if enough people want them. But they won't ever be the norm because that's not what people visit these places for.

Idk about pubs but drinking at a brewery is fun because you can actually converse with people considering you can clearly hear them.

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Yeah, I've noticed the worse the beer is, the louder the noise is. Breweries and pubs with craft beer tend to be good places to socialise.

 

[Doctor_Thomas]

You don't need music that loud to dance anyway. This should be way more regulated than this, especially for the workers.

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Most of the floor staff in bars I go to with loud music wear earplugs.... it's the bar staff who really get hit though, since they still need to hear drink orders being shouted at them.

 

[Pankratous]

If it's like that in a Pub or bar it's annoying as you go there to talk with people.
But the whole point of a club is dancing and having fun.

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I agree it should be loud in clubs.

My point is that it's too loud. If they turned it down 15% it would still be considered EXTREMELY loud.

 

[HiLife]

A nightclub should be loud. The bass should rattle your bones. Music everywhere and everywhere music. Anyone who goes to a nightclub to talk is doing it wrong. It's like going to a swimming pool to eat pizza.

Generally, in a pub, I'm there to socialise and even a noisy pub with a dancefloor should have some quiet areas where people can chat. I really detest loud pubs and avoid them. Especially so if the noise is a bunch of TVs showing sport.

There should be clubs that play quiet music, if enough people want them. But they won't ever be the norm because that's not what people visit these places for.


Yeah, I've noticed the worse the beer is, the louder the noise is. Breweries and pubs with craft beer tend to be good places to socialise.

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I mean it's not a traditional club that people would automatically think of, but jazz clubs are great. I wouldn't say it's "quiet" but compared to the club OP is referencing? Night and day. There's also piano room bars/clubs that were fun but it wasn't an atmosphere I liked being in compared to a jazz club.

 

[floridaguy954]

I suggest ear plugs. I'll start bringing a pair with me to ever concert or music event I attend in the future.

 

[julia crawford]

In 2019 my company had a christmas dinner in a fancy restaurant but the music was so loud.... like it wasn't even 10pm and we had both people dancing and people sitting down and eating.

It was horrible. We couldn't talk to each other and i left asap.

 

[Dennis8K]

I agree, it is annoying and just makes the experience worse rather than adding to the enjoyment of going out.

 

[breakdancing duck]

It's out of control. I've had ear ringing even with ear plugs.

 

[Garp TXB]

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[Fulminator]

Yeah I hate really loud music. I don't understand why people think it's better.

 

[cognizant]

I can't even focus on reading a book at a coffee shop these days. Music has to be blaring wherever we go. Restaurants, clothes shops, everywhere. It's obnoxious as hell.

 

[Pomerlaw]

Even movie theaters are crazy loud. Stupid as fuck.

 

[Horohorohoro]

Not at a club but I used to work at a Dave & Busters type place and the sound from the bowling pins being knocked over on all 26 lanes, the constant blasting of sounds from all of the games, the people talking at the bar, and the music that was constantly playing extremely loudly plus the radio I had connected to my ear to talk to other employees which was for some reason never turned down enough probably permanently damaged my hearing.

 

[thewienke]

This is why every night out in my 20s ended up at a kinda dirty pool hall drinking pitchers of beer or a dive bar for cheap dollar beers. Honestly that was more fun anyway.

 

[chiller]

If you aren't redlining, you aren't headlining.

 

[themoralcenter]

As a musician and a bartender i tell it lkke it is.. shit wasnt made to goto 11

 

[Irishmantis]

Most pubs I go to ya can hear people talk

clubs? Well just the lost ya have to take to let your hair down and blow off some steam

 

[JCG]

I absolutely hated this about my brother's wedding party.

It was arguably the last opportunity to talk to a bunch of people from our family and the music was so loud you could barely hear them or not at all.

 

[Red]

#1 reason I hate going to bars and pubs. When you wake up the next morning with bronchitis from screaming conversation for hours, you made a bad choice the night before.

 

[Travo]

Take it from me, tinnitus sucks. I feels worse because I'm already deaf in one ear.

 

[louiedog]

I got dragged to this new trendy bar by some friends once. It was by far the loudest indoor music I've heard in my life. There was nothing to do other than bad food (the concept was stupid and involved crappy food like microwaved tater tots, seriously) and drinking, no dancing or anything. No one in my party could hear each other. I looked around the room and realized it was just people standing at tables, drinking, and not talking to each other.