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Why isn't Waluigi in WarioWare?
- Thread starter TheDanimal
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Because thankfully Nintendo lets the devs make Wario Ware its own thing with fun and creative characters instead of shoehorning Mario tertiary stuff. And
Er, I was going to answer, "Because Jimmy T already exists and he's a superior 'look-alike' of Waluigi", but then I read Crushed post:
And I can't help but like this theory. Lol
And I can't help but like this theory. Lol
But Daisy originated from a mainline Mario(Super Mario Land) and appeared in another one recently(Super Mario Run). Waluigi proper seems to be currently stuck in the party/sports spinoffs.
I mean, WarioWare is Wario's job. Why would he bring his spouse to work?
Waluigi's got his own stuff to do in the day-to-day. They aren't codependent like Mario and Peach.
Waluigi's got his own stuff to do in the day-to-day. They aren't codependent like Mario and Peach.
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You really think Wario wouldn't jump on a licensing deal for his adventures?
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OK, Theory Time.
Waluigi Is Don Flamenco from Punch Out. After his repeated defeats at the hands of Little Mac, he's now middle aged, years of boxing have taken a toll on his face, decided he needed to go blow off some steam. He ends up seeing his old friend Mario who used to ref some of his fights and joins in some tennis matches.
It was here that he met Wario and fell in love with the Cosplay lifestyle. He starts Cosplaying as a weird Luigi the same way his new buddy acts as a weird Mario. He's not part of their acting troupe, but he gets invited out to their sporting events.
He and Wario have a relaxed relationship. They do their own things and hang out and play sports when they both need to blow off some steam
Waluigi Is Don Flamenco from Punch Out. After his repeated defeats at the hands of Little Mac, he's now middle aged, years of boxing have taken a toll on his face, decided he needed to go blow off some steam. He ends up seeing his old friend Mario who used to ref some of his fights and joins in some tennis matches.
It was here that he met Wario and fell in love with the Cosplay lifestyle. He starts Cosplaying as a weird Luigi the same way his new buddy acts as a weird Mario. He's not part of their acting troupe, but he gets invited out to their sporting events.
He and Wario have a relaxed relationship. They do their own things and hang out and play sports when they both need to blow off some steam
/thread
Seriously though, I think WarioWare has some of the best unused character design. Where's WarioWare Tennis!?
No he wasn't the main villain. He was for like one song at the start.
Thank you for passing this knowledge on! I had a feeling something like this happened in the background, but it's the first I've heard of it.
Do you know if this quality assurance team has control over internal productions like Mario Kart? I was wondering if Diddy's absence in Mario Kart 8 would've had anything to do with it.
It's strange because despite being paired up in sports games he isn't really Wario's Luigi equivalent. Is Wario and Waluigi related like Mario and Luigi? He has no presence at all in either Wario Land or Wario Ware. Wario's universe seems to almost exist entirely seperate from the Mario series.
I don't really mind this though. It makes Wario feel more unique that he is the main character of his own cast of characters.
I don't really mind this though. It makes Wario feel more unique that he is the main character of his own cast of characters.
I love that WarioWare is technically part of the Mario universe. I'm still hoping that a WarioWare character shows up in a main Mario title one day. A great missed opportunity would have been Orbulon being one of the residents of the Moon Kingdom.
Looking over this, and I'm starting to think this isn't Walugi.This is the only appearance by Waluigi in the WarioWare series of video games.
Look at the mustache. It's Wario's, not Waluigi's.
I think it's just Wario with an oblong head.
That quality assurance team post is a good answer as to why Waluigi isn't in Warioware.
Though I've always wondered why the Warioware characters are always cold shouldered in the Mario Spinoffs. I'm sure the quality assurance team is a good answer too because we got games Donkey Kong Country characters like Funky Kong in Mario Kart Wii and K Rool in The Wii Sluggers game. But those were in the mid to late 00's and that team has made sure to keep Mario characters in Mario games and Mario spinoff characters in their spinoff-verses.
I would like it if Nintendo was upfront on the Warioware/Mario connection (or lack thereof) by saying the Wario in the Mario games is a different Wario to the one from Warioware. Also they'd say Waluigi is his #1 man in the Mario verse but Waluigi, Mario, Luigi and the whole Mushroom Kingdom don't exist in the Warioware verse.
Though I've always wondered why the Warioware characters are always cold shouldered in the Mario Spinoffs. I'm sure the quality assurance team is a good answer too because we got games Donkey Kong Country characters like Funky Kong in Mario Kart Wii and K Rool in The Wii Sluggers game. But those were in the mid to late 00's and that team has made sure to keep Mario characters in Mario games and Mario spinoff characters in their spinoff-verses.
I would like it if Nintendo was upfront on the Warioware/Mario connection (or lack thereof) by saying the Wario in the Mario games is a different Wario to the one from Warioware. Also they'd say Waluigi is his #1 man in the Mario verse but Waluigi, Mario, Luigi and the whole Mushroom Kingdom don't exist in the Warioware verse.
Oh most definitely. If you look at Nintendo credits very closely, you can spot them.
Here's Nintendo's quality assurance team for Warioware Gold:
(Thank these guys for no Waluigi in Warioware Gold)
Here's Nintendo's quality assurance team for Mario Tennis Aces:
And here's Nintendo's quality assurance team for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe:
You never used to see these kind of credits in older Nintendo games...because there was no desire to oversee productions for consistency. Early Nintendo (through the Wii / DS era) used to experiment a lot more with characters and worlds...now their brands are so valuable that they choose to rein in developers.
Wow, that's really unfortunate to see it happen. A lack of experimentation with the Mario IP has been really noticeable lately too. Character rosters are very conservative in spinoff games like Mario Tennis and the Mario RPGs. I'm somewhat amazed something like New Donk City even got approved for Mario Odyssey after hearing about this.
Do we know of any specific examples of Nintendo being unhappy with the interpretation of their characters?
I can't help but think of Smash Bros.'s odd interpretation of the Mario universe, such as post-apocalyptic World 1-1 or Giga Bowser. Either they don't mind, or Sakurai is too valuable to deny him anything.
Warioware is set long after Waluigi dies in a tragic pelvic thrusting accident where he thrusted himself off a cliff, and Wario is too depressed to play sports and go on adventures anymore
Oh most definitely. If you look at Nintendo credits very closely, you can spot them.
Here's Nintendo's quality assurance team for Warioware Gold:
(Thank these guys for no Waluigi in Warioware Gold)
Here's Nintendo's quality assurance team for Mario Tennis Aces:
And here's Nintendo's quality assurance team for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe:
You never used to see these kind of credits in older Nintendo games...because there was no desire to oversee productions for consistency. Early Nintendo (through the Wii / DS era) used to experiment a lot more with characters and worlds...now their brands are so valuable that they choose to rein in developers as company policy.
Which role are referring to here? There have been character supervisors long before the Wii era. Yoichi Kotabe was the character supervisor for the first WarioWare game for example.
Well, nothing really changed in regards to Waluigi then.
Diddy is in Mario Tennis Aces, so it's not like they're that consistent. Forget about other DK characters though, as Donkey Kong Country is back to being a valuable brand. They didn't use DKC characters in Mario spin-offs besides DK back during the Rare era either.
And New Donk City has only name cameos.
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What kind of shocks me about New Donk City though was that I thought Miyamoto had blocked the developers from using a DK cameo in Mario Galaxy 2?
I think Diddy has definitely been grandfathered into the Mario spinoffs after so many appearances since Gamecube. I don't expect the other Kongs again like you said.
Yeah it's so weird for Waluigi to be the mustacheless big brute one, and Wario the nimble and mischievous one. I guess they were going for height instead, and had to choose in the existing units anyway?
Waluigi is a bit too unique so he has to be adapted to fit into other franchises. Would Waluigi fans still accept a "changed" Waluigi?
For example in Wario Ware he could be a fashion designer, or a famous theater actor, or a waiter in a french restaurant (the kind of jobs that would have the "tall thin weird man" stereotype in japan), drop the violent behavior in favor of another flaw like pedanticness or.pettyness or strictness.
This is what I meant when I made my post, it wasn't sarcastic.
Thank you.
In truth, Waluigi is a world-renowned spinal surgeon, with a PhD in multiple fields. It's precisely because of his wealth and social status that he's invited to play tennis with someone as famous as Mario, despite not being a famous hero like the others.
He views violence as beneath him, which is why he will never be in Smash.