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Why women criticise sexualised character designs |OT2| I have no pants and I must scream (READ OP)
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Did they really need to keep the Trophy Girls around? As well as their original designs? They were a product of their time, sexualized women meant to be gawked at, and I'm not sure I'm comfortable with them being kept around and shown off as something worth remembering.
Hell even Tawna's redesign, even with the updated and tougher personality, is far too sexualized for my liking. Hell it's even creepy because they're freaking animals.
Hell even Tawna's redesign, even with the updated and tougher personality, is far too sexualized for my liking. Hell it's even creepy because they're freaking animals.
Jesus. There's disagreeing and then there's outright hosility. This isn't "I think you're wrong", this is "get out of my video game dicussion". I know it's E3, but people need to calm the fuck down.
Eh, I think it is great that instead of getting rid of them, they put them in a much better role, and the roster was in need of more female characters.
Same here. It's filled with juvenile garbage who have no place on this site. Nobody will miss them.
It's particularly eye-rolling because PETA is also misogynistic AY EFF
I'm sure some of you remember people complaining that Crash Team Racing dropped the trophy girls from the remake. Turns out they're still in, except now they're known as Nitro Squad and are unlockable racers instead of characters just standing around during a victory celebration
Fuck me.
Give me a game starring them!
That doesn't play like Crash.
Oh god, someone in the Tifa thread pulled the big breast women representation card when i asked them why she needed to be bigger. Am i going crazy, cause Tifa looks to have large breasts in the remake.
What? Tifa obviously has only A-cups! /s
Perverts are just grasping at straws to justify their horniness. It's honestly pathetic.
Aha! You've fallen into the trap of using realistic points of reference. We don't do that any more. Please cite other media only.
I don't think something like this is unrealistic, and I think it closer matches her original bust as well as gives her a more solid physique overall.
I think it's my first time posting here but both how Kinsei was treated for sharing their concerns and the satire thread that popped up are absolutely embarrassing. E3 time is usually were discussion takes a nosedive but that has been particularly disheartening to read and I feel disappointed that the general gaming community here isn't capable of having a respectful discussion about these things.
I just hate how fucked up body standards have become. It's insane that people legit say that she doesn't have large breasts with a straight face.
Makes me wish people spent more time looking at real people instead of idealized depictions of them.
PS: On that note, I also wanna say I hate to even call them "idealized" because said ideal in itself is complete bullshit.
I just hate how fucked up body standards have become. It's insane that people legit say that she doesn't have large breasts with a straight face.
Makes me wish people spent more time looking at real people instead of idealized depictions of them.
PS: On that note, I also wanna say I hate to even call them "idealized" because said ideal in itself is complete bullshit.
I think Tifa's design's since Advent Children on have been pretty reasonable. Advent Children is still my favorite for her, but I like this updated look.
I just saw this. Hope they keep the date options cause I know who I'm taking now.
Twitter is currently going crazy over Barret
Looks like Square accidentally hit onto a Hot Ryu design for him.
I just saw this. Hope they keep the date options cause I know who I'm taking now.
It is funny that this place is perceived as a "woke SJW paradise" when the majority are not. At least your thread became a graveyard for those shitty nintendo gamers.
While I'm happy with her current model because I was dreading it being an disaster, the one on the right looks loads better.
Goddamn do I hate people using sex positive feminism as a cover for wanting more sexualized designs.
I disagree. Indeed, every concern thread I read had at least one of *those* people. But Kinsei's thread was filled with them. It was out of the norm.
EDIT: I was referring to concern threads regarding video games. Sorry for the ambiguity.
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She definitely does, she's just wearing a good sports bra to stop them painfully bouncing everywhere when she's jumping around. Of course many of these dudes actually have no idea about women's bodies lmao
It almost as if their knowledgeable about female bodies and designs, at least to what they like.
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As someone from the global south I see a lot of racism in etc era, so I do not find it out of the norm. Just go to any topic that has to do with Asia Pacific or the Middle East to see. But I do agree that Nintendo topics dealing with issues like this one usually turn really ugly.
Fire Emblem has been a very controversial franchise since Awakening/Fates kicked up the Fan service to an 11, with Echoes Mildly taking a step back to more classic designs, but its good to see that Three Houses is focusing a lot more on characters for their personalities and traits rather than how much skin their showing. I can't wait to see some of the new designs post timeskip for all of currently revealed characters, despite the criticisms for the artwork, i've really loved Edlegards design the most.
This edit has larger bust but the cup size seems the same. If this is what you meant by "more busty," I don't think many will oppose.
I don't think something like this is unrealistic, and I think it closer matches her original bust as well as gives her a more solid physique overall.
It's very possible I'm wrong, but I'd say she looks a bit bustier there.
I never said Tifa needed to be Christina Hendricks.
No matter how much we like to pretend otherwise, it's still basically just NeoGAF with a purple skin.
Fire Emblem has been a very controversial franchise since Awakening/Fates kicked up the Fan service to an 11, with Echoes Mildly taking a step back to more classic designs, but its good to see that Three Houses is focusing a lot more on characters for their personalities and traits rather than how much skin their showing. I can't wait to see some of the new designs post timeskip for all of currently revealed characters, despite the criticisms for the artwork, i've really loved Edlegards design the most.
...huh, that's surprisingly great. I expected far worse.
it really is, right down to the inane framerate yelling and upset that a $20-a-year service isn't comparable to a $15-a-month one
I don't think something like this is unrealistic, and I think it closer matches her original bust as well as gives her a more solid physique overall.
It bananas how this always comes up when it has something to do with Nintendo. It doesn't help that like Ubisoft it doesn't openly reflect on their action.
Speaking of Nintendo, at least related. New character for the Pokemon game. Also Pokemon continuing to be diverse with their characters.
Speaking of Nintendo, at least related. New character for the Pokemon game. Also Pokemon continuing to be diverse with their characters.
Well, think of the positives. At least you caused a ban-wave of Smash/Nintendo zealots worthy of awe & admiration with your thread, lol.
First thought: Water Gym Trainer in a swimming suit is a little cliche but she looks cool.
Second thought: Wait... are those water floaties on her lower calves?
I generally have some low expectations of how gaming side can get here, but I just want to pop in and say that even with that in mind it was really shocking to see the immediate outright vitriolic reaction to this thread earlier. I'm glad that it was dealt with, but... yeah.
Given that both topics have been discussed here in the past without quite as much of a severe pushback (though certainly some of it), I don't know if it's just people who were more active for E3 or what, but it was extremely disappointing at best. Even my low expectations are upsetting dismissals/handwaving, not hateful mocking. People need to be better.
I am getting ready to give up on this site. I am sorry, I know nobody here knows me, I posted in this thread maybe once, but I loved this thread a lot. Keep it up people.
It is better to only follow some topics / communities and rarely venture to gaming or etcetera era. Today has been one of the worst days for this site.
EtcEra isn't too bad but yeah gaming side is full of hot garbage.
Welcome to the "yeah this is straight parade here too" effect. I'm sad to see what your thread turned into , but I must say I'm not all that surprised either ...
That won't change a damn thing this is DQ crowd combined with Nintendo crowd the result will be the same . DQ fans don't wanna hear about that and will do anything they can to poison the well and shut down the conversation by nuking it from orbit . It happens on every forum every social media evey place on the internet where you mention it .
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I was prepared and I still got mad. The feeling of "don't touch my toys" is strong. It's even more disturbing that it's coming from Nintendo die-hard fans (mostly). You'd think they're kind of sensitive to progressive topic, but it seems even they fall into the trap of defending their favorite toys over way more important matters. It's no wonder why those same people often consider women as toys too.
Sometimes, the backlash for being progressive or just wanting to TALK - just TALK, damn - about some problems, is sooooo strong, that you start to wonder if you're not the one who's in the wrong. I mean, just read at this thread. It's not like the OP said something particularly controversial and yet, people went straight for his throat.
Yeah, just wanted to say that you're not alone OP, I'm with you. You're not in the wrong.
Yep. Hitler himself could have made the games, they'd still defend it.
Speak a lot about our society. If you're talented for something, you can get away with pretty much everything.
- You make good music ? You can get away with being a nazi apologist, like DQ composer.
- You make good games ? You can get away with your blatant and ridiculous homophobia, like Persona's director.
- You make good movies ? You can get away with being a child-molester, like Polanski.
The pattern is obvious. The laaaaarge majority of people value entertainment over progressive values.
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I really like the one on the right, it's a very small change but it looks great. I'm pretty happy with her current design anyway, it could have been way worse
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