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Ugh I love Allegra Clark. Voiced the best gorl in Dragon Age Inquisition and is just awesome to boot.
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Why women criticise sexualised character designs |OT2| I have no pants and I must scream (READ OP)
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Ugh I love Allegra Clark. Voiced the best gorl in Dragon Age Inquisition and is just awesome to boot.
I was already ready to never buy another Atlus game again after all the stuff they've pulled in past games, and sexualizing a rape victim is just solidifying that for me. The worst part is I know there's going to be so much praise for Royal once it comes out with so many people completely brushing off things like this. It happens every time an Atlus game (or just JRPG in general) comes out... I'm so very tired of the constant misogyny, sexualization of teenagers, homophobia, transphobia, etc. just being ignored by mass audiences. Sure, it's okay to like things with problematic elements and all, but the extent that this kind of stuff is simply swept under the rug in gaming communities is incredibly disheartening as a woman.
This is how I understand it. It shouldn't be conflated with other nonbinary identities, since nonbinary is essentially an umbrella. For example, some people perpetually feel like they're in the middle of the gender spectrum.
Elihal in Witcher 3 is genderfluid, confirmed by devs/writers too. Just a minor character though (don't know if you ment playable), involved in the main quest of the game.
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Not gonna lie, I'd be interested to know what reviewers make of Kojima's treatment of female characters in Death Stranding. Took a quick look over the review thread but didn't see anything specific. I hope this isn't another case where Kojima's misogyny will get swept under the rug in favour of jacking it to his "genius".
That's exactly what will happen, outside of a few more socially aware outlets. Game reviewers don't care or aren't even equipped to comment on such matters.
Pretty much. It gets swept under the rug in most game reviews.
I recall Detroit Become Human basically go by without much issue in reviews.
Here I found something on Kotaku. I'm letting you judge by yourself :
The critic is about how the game frames men compared to women :
Glad to see at least one (?) reviewer is touching upon the subject. Though I don't even know where to start with the phrase "bisexual camera". I think they needed to have come up with a better phrase than that.
Kojima is very good at showing the vulnerability of men when aspects of society push for masculinity. However, he always makes it a trade off for the women in his games.
Really? With the way Otacon has mostly been treated in the series, it's always reaked of toxic masculinity.
I believe he has been married for a while though he keeps that part of his life pretty under the wraps?
It's really not rare to see anime aimed at women at all. In fact, anime aimed at women or both genders equally definitely exceed anime aimed specifically at men, or at least it feels that way. JRPGs are a different story. There are a lot that appeal to me specifically things like Atelier and Trails, and I think Fire Emblem has a pretty big female fanbase?
Well now I know what the prevailing counter argument is gonna be.
"Both genders are sexualized in DS."
I though the Waypoint review would mention any iffy stuff but nothing came up. On the Giant Beastcast they described Fragile's backstory as "Not Quiet stupid, but pretty close" (paraphrased).
Is anyone else exhausted of this attitude of "(insert creator) is a brilliant, GENIUS auter of their medium" while simultaneously ignoring the rampant misogyny in the creator's works, which prevails not just with Hideo Kojima, but with so many male content creators across most art forms? It gets so tiring seeing the sexism not only ignored, but the person behind the sexism being treated as a genius as well.
Oh it's so annoying. Sexism is seen as some niggly little thing that's kinda an issue but you can mostly ignore but pretty much any other issue in Gaming is blown out of proportion and treated like a life and death thing. It happens again and again. It's so frustrating.
It's definitely annoying. Especially when MGS3, the one with a great woman character (The Boss), was going to be way waaaaaay worse if it wasn't for editors reeling him in. And even that game has Eva's unnecessary open jacket to show off her bra. People tend to put directors on pedestals who can do know wrong. It's exhausting to deal with such fans.
Right? The video game community will have a collective fit over the smallest things, yet literal sexism and violence towards women is often just treated as a quirky minor thing and not a legitimate major issue with the creator's work and viewpoints. The complete lack of criticism or even acknowledgement toward that is so unfortunate.
For sure. It's not like people can't still enjoy something even if the creator has a few problematic viewpoints that are translated into their work; I'm not here to be the fun police, after all. I just wish people could acknowledge those problematic elements instead of simply praising the creator as some sort of God-like mastermind auteur who could do no wrong. It's ridiculous and way too common.
I really like Leo as a gender fluid character. In Tekken 6, there are moves that are gender exclusive and Leo can do them for both genders and could equip gender exclusive items too. I had a friend that was gender fluid and she (born a female so I'll use those pronouns for simplicity's sake without having to use her name) started playing Tekken and immediately picked Leo as her starter character without even knowing that the developers had designed Leo to be gender fluid.
It's a shame that Tekken Tag 2 decided that Leo is female, but the Tekken Tag Series is seen as non-canon anyway. I think Leo is much more interesting without the gender assignment.
Ring Fit enemy Dragaux is now the lowest bar for male character objectification
Not enough people upset about this tbh
He wanted her to have a breast out so it would look like her snake looking scar looks like an angry snake when her breasts shake during the fight.
Thank god they stopped him.
Not exactly, unlike females Leo can't counter-slap Anna's b+2,2, which is important vs Anna since Anna uses it to punish -15 moves in lieu of a launcher
I really like Leo as a gender fluid character. In Tekken 6, there are moves that are gender exclusive and Leo can do them for both genders and could equip gender exclusive items too. I had a friend that was gender fluid and she (born a female so I'll use those pronouns for simplicity's sake without having to use her name) started playing Tekken and immediately picked Leo as her starter character without even knowing that the developers had designed Leo to be gender fluid.
Wtf how the hell could shaking a scar make it look angry
Yeah, that's a big omission and it would have been great if Leo could do it since it's probably the best known gender exclusive move in the game. Maybe they decided to give Anna a break on that one. :) The one move I can think of that's female exclusive is the universal running 3. Male characters land on their feet and female characters land laying down. Leo does the female version, but Leo can also do the Headbutt Carnival which is male exclusive.
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Noo they should've taken it out completely, it's literally an easter egg that hurts an already mediocre character (bc she's really sexualized hah)
nah Leo's generic running 3 is just the generic male version, same stats and everything. The fact that generic female running 3s land on the ground feels like a relic of 90s fighting game development sexism tbh (for example how before Makoto in Street Fighter 3 female chars in Street Fighter on average have less health and follow simmilar character archtypes bc Capcom back then believed that females are weaker that males)
I don't play Anna or Nina so I don't dislike that the move is there. Actually I think it would be funny if Anna/Nina could slap back after the counterslap and start a slap war kind of like the headbutt carnival. After I saw that video you posted though, I feel do kind of feel bad that Anna can't safely use her 15f punisher on female characters though.
About the running 3 - really? Does Leo have the male version in both T7 and T6? I could have sworn I had a discussion with my friends about Leo when we were still playing T6 and they said that Leo does a female version running 3 which conflicted with the headbutt carnival and the fact that Leo could equip a sledgehammer.
Yeah it's annoying. It sucks cause Gardevoir is one of my favorites but I have to weave through a shit ton of porn every time I look up stuff.
Do...do men know anything about breasts? Or at least to male writers know anything about breasts?
You owe me a new keyboard. What even is this? It feels like something a 13 year old would write.
High-Five!
Friend of mind shared it on discord but it looks to be a reddit picture. No idea of the source unfortunately.
Do...do men know anything about breasts? Or at least to male writers know anything about breasts?
40C Hands
This mofo has some goddamn yaoi hands.
Kirlia, Gardevior, Brionne, Primarina, Milotic, Roselia, Roserade, Mienshao, Lurantis, etc.
They're Pokemon that look feminine and can be male.
I really want to know this too. Almost no review that I could see made any mention of it. Pretty disappointing.
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lmao at those legs... did Rob Liefeld draw this?With the announcement of Overwatch 2 what does everyone think of the characters redesigns?
Braixen and Primarina in particular. It's always vague "this Pokemon is trash" singling out of feminine Pokemon.
Yeah that's one thing that always bugged me about Tracer. Her legs are a bit too long.I really want to know this too. Almost no review that I could see made any mention of it. Pretty disappointing.
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lmao at those legs... did Rob Liefeld draw this?
With the announcement of Overwatch 2 what does everyone think of the characters redesigns?
Honestly their principle designs haven't changed too drastically. Although Mercy has pseudo underboob now?
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