Dead Space 2 was recently added to the Xbox FPS boosted games and I was playing through it and what they did to Ellie is criminal. EA was very open that DS2 underperformed and wanted to expand its appeal with DS3.
Ellie in DS 2
DS3
also bonus from the previous KOF
Itto was such a disappointment. No reason they couldn't have used him as a jumping off point for muscular characters, but instead we got the same model with a bit more defined abs. At least the fanart has been doing a better job.*glances at Eula*
Right...
Genshin used to start out rather okay in the variety department, but it took a hard turn into waifu earlier this year and it seems to be struggling to recover from that. It's why there's a high amount of hype for Itto, who's apparently a burly biker gang type of dude, but people are disappointed that he's not actually as buff in-game as his artwork depicts going off of beta leaks (due to him reusing the 'tall male' model).
I follow Genshin closely, and there's a few observable things about its roster off the top of my head, especially among its 5* character cast. Namely certain elements are overwhelmingly male and others are overwhelmingly female.
- Jean is the only female 5* anemo character to date, and she was a release character.
- Diluc is the only male 5* pyro character to date, and he was a release character.
- There are no male 5* cyro characters. In fact, there hasn't been any new male cyro characters since release, with 4* Kaeya and Chongyun.
- There are no female 5* geo characters. A new 4* female geo character will be added in the next patch, while Ningguang is the only other one since release.
- There's only one male electro character, the 4* Razor who was a release character.
- (On another note, there are no male catalyst wielders yet, which is basically the game's mage archetype. At least there's a couple archers, but they don't play like actual archers.)
Damn that sucks so much.Dead Space 2 was recently added to the Xbox FPS boosted games and I was playing through it and what they did to Ellie is criminal. EA was very open that DS2 underperformed and wanted to expand its appeal with DS3.
Ellie in DS 2
DS3
The woman in Returnal (Selene) seems to be somewhere around 40.
Chloe Frazer is 41, Elena is 37, and Nadine is mid-30s according to Uncharted wiki
Selene is exactly what came to mind. Such a great character
Even Resident Evil hit Sherry (born 1986) with some de-aging magic as a result of the whole virus thing, as she's supposed to be in her late 20s in RE6.
To add some others not mentioned yet:
Are we talking exclusively about lead characters in games? Because Sonya Blade of Mortal Kombat is stated to be 26 years old in supplementary material for the first game, and Sonya's (first) bio in Deadly Alliance outright states that its events take place a decade after the events of that game, so she's been over 30 in most of her mainline appearances since 2002. I think MKvsDCU and MK9 are the only mainline games released this century where an over-30 Sonya isn't playable or fightable.
While we're on the Mortal Kombat topic, Cetrion is definitely coded as 30+, being Mother Nature and all that.
Seriously I can't say enough how amazing MKs current direction is ---- ESPECIALLY compared to the years of what it was before. 👍 👍 👍While we're on the Mortal Kombat topic, Cetrion is definitely coded as 30+, being Mother Nature and all that.
Chun-Li should be around that age in third strike.
Chun-Li was absent from the first two versions of Street Fighter III. Mai was absent from KOF 12 and 13. Blue Mary was the same, and she was also absent from Garou: MotW and KOF Maximum Impact 1-2. Jam is currently not in Strive, but she'll 100% be DLC.
But in those cases, they weren't killed off or retired for being too old or anything like that. Maybe Mary was retired in Garou.
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Speaking of older female characters, I just remembered Mary from Tobal and Mitsuko from Bloody Roar.
Mary is 32:
Not sure about Mitsuko's exact age, but she's definitely over 30.
Oh, and this sadly shouldn't come as a surprise: "After a survey made by Eighting [1], Mitsuko was revealed being the most hated fighter of the first Bloody Roar." And she never came back. Neither did this guy:
I'm still mad about Tekken 7 Kunimitsu but not surprised. Yoshimitsu can run around for God knows how long and Kuni all of a sudden had a daughter how convenient.
Yeah, modern day MK designs have progressed so far beyond what the old stuff was. It's genuinely impressive.
Mentioned earlier in the thread but Indra from Axiom Verge 2 has to be at least 40+ given the age of her daughter and she's the only char you play as in the game
Alice and Uriko are cousins by blood, actually. Alice was eventually adopted by Mitsuko when her parents (Mitsuko's brother and sister-in-law) died.
Runway from Rogue Company is a pretty dope character from this year. Well technically last year but only playable this year lol.
All of the female veterans of Fatal Fury were retired from the roster when Mark of the Wolves released, but Terry was the only returning character period. Same deal with Samurai Shodown's female veterans leaving when 1999's Warriors Rage came out, but that was again a near-clean sweep of the roster beyond Haohmaru and Hanzo Hattori('s son). Most fighting game series handled their time skips in the late 90s (if at all), so you were correct in implying that we generally don't see characters getting "retired" unless you're playing something from Namco.
Her hair is great! I love the almost skeletal body, like when the antagonist in the trailer blows her body away and it's just bones under her clothing. Very unique.
And one of the einherijar in Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume is in her 50s:
I love the first two VP games. Also there's a good reason why I look at people different when they say the MK characters aren't as sexy as they used to be. It's because they look and dress like realistic people now and not plastic fetish dolls. Everybody won with their MK11 designs and you can tell a bunch of people had a say with how they were designed and it wasn't just men, it's great. Also I straight loved Scarlet looking like a Helghast from Killzone with her outfit. Her color palette and sharp facial features just make her all kinds of deadly, while still having an element of sexiness to her.
Lorenta is ...! ...Well, late 30's, which isn't as fancy as your example (which looks BOSS btw). But still, I always liked how mature and smart she looks (her idle animation has her rod float around her while she stands calmly).
Actually I found a sheet of VP character portrait art. Let's enjoy! 🌸 They're wonderfully drawn and got a lot of character to them.
Oh man yes. She went from this bizarre and pointless bikini-assassin outfit, and into a plausible-looking person.
Actually, I've loved folks posting positive examples in here!! So I kinda wanna go in on MK11.
The thing that killed me was the lack of variety. They were basically all swimsuits, and they literally looked like they came from the same world/artist. Now they have new added palettes, and they clearly look like they come from a real place with a real culture (that isn't a culture of fighting death matches, edgy masks, and strappy string bikinis) – their new looks ACTUALLY tell a story.
They nailed the animations for them too.
Each character has a distinct look (facial capture for the win!). Still fierce. Absolutely still sexy; but now it feels way less cheap; it's way more appealing because the whole package is better made.
Sorta squeaking in the friendships were/remain great. The oldschool throwback outfits here I feel in some way point out how silly the looks were before (I know, palette swaps saved on data). But it took a while for that stank of sameness would be wiped away.
Jade genuinely looks intimidating yet now graceful and with a way nicer outfit; I also love the confident pose with the staff.
Mileena always deserved better lol. And she got it!! It's also just absolutely ACES that the new looks still pay attention to motifs of how their original designs are based. MK11 is really what you'd expect they'd look IRL. She's still a Ninja; she's still slightly exposed, but now not trying to break her spine to get a boobs/butt pose and character-defining "purple" look... Like that it's, that was their distinction was basically colour coding and their quirk. Now it's ACTUAL outfitting.
I swear their original art only designed one kind of outfit.... THEY WERE SO SAMEY. Anyways, Sheeva might be one of my favourite redesigns. She was like the epitome of 90s mega-muscular-and-super-pissed look for ages; and she had those two extra hands so she could have even MORE SPIKEY GAUNTLETS to wear...for maximum PUMMEL. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
But I love her new armor (the cloth and metallic designs again look like they come from a place with fashion/culture and not just SPIKEY GAUNTLET AND STRING BIKINI WORLD ™.
I skimmed a lot of MK10; things indeed got better here....But I don't think their designs were as fun or more cohesively and fun designed as MK11. Jacqui got a plain ol' tank top, army tags, and metal fist is really tame lol. MK11 gets body armor, way more colour, and a way more fun and expanded visual design (and some swell alts).
Lorenta is ...! ...Well, late 30's, which isn't as fancy as your example (which looks BOSS btw). But still, I always liked how mature and smart she looks (her idle animation has her rod float around her while she stands calmly).
Actually I found a sheet of VP character portrait art. Let's enjoy! 🌸 They're wonderfully drawn and got a lot of character to them.
Oh man yes. She went from this bizarre and pointless bikini-assassin outfit, and into a plausible-looking person.
Actually, I've loved folks posting positive examples in here!! So I kinda wanna go in on MK11.
The thing that killed me was the lack of variety. They were basically all swimsuits, and they literally looked like they came from the same world/artist. Now they have new added palettes, and they clearly look like they come from a real place with a real culture (that isn't a culture of fighting death matches, edgy masks, and strappy string bikinis) – their new looks ACTUALLY tell a story.
They nailed the animations for them too.
Each character has a distinct look (facial capture for the win!). Still fierce. Absolutely still sexy; but now it feels way less cheap; it's way more appealing because the whole package is better made.
Sorta squeaking in the friendships were/remain great. The oldschool throwback outfits here I feel in some way point out how silly the looks were before (I know, palette swaps saved on data). But it took a while for that stank of sameness would be wiped away.
Jade genuinely looks intimidating yet now graceful and with a way nicer outfit; I also love the confident pose with the staff.
Mileena always deserved better lol. And she got it!! It's also just absolutely ACES that the new looks still pay attention to motifs of how their original designs are based. MK11 is really what you'd expect they'd look IRL. She's still a Ninja; she's still slightly exposed, but now not trying to break her spine to get a boobs/butt pose and character-defining "purple" look... Like that it's, that was their distinction was basically colour coding and their quirk. Now it's ACTUAL outfitting.
I swear their original art only designed one kind of outfit.... THEY WERE SO SAMEY. Anyways, Sheeva might be one of my favourite redesigns. She was like the epitome of 90s mega-muscular-and-super-pissed look for ages; and she had those two extra hands so she could have even MORE SPIKEY GAUNTLETS to wear...for maximum PUMMEL. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
But I love her new armor (the cloth and metallic designs again look like they come from a place with fashion/culture and not just SPIKEY GAUNTLET AND STRING BIKINI WORLD ™.
I skimmed a lot of MK10; things indeed got better here....But I don't think their designs were as fun or more cohesively and fun designed as MK11. Jacqui got a plain ol' tank top, army tags, and metal fist is really tame lol. MK11 gets body armor, way more colour, and a way more fun and expanded visual design (and some swell alts).
Why do men think women that fight and train all day are supposed to have big breasts in the first place? Most women fighters and body builders are very flat since they turn to muscle. Women body builders actually tend to have implants if they actually are busty. Some people really don't know anything about biology and also need to learn that there's nothing wrong with a woman being flat. And by "flat" I mean that they're not large D cups.
lol can you believe there's a 4 hour video "takedown" of MK11 and it spends like half an hour saying the new designs are bad because "they don't say anything about the character's culture or personality."
Lorenta is ...! ...Well, late 30's, which isn't as fancy as your example (which looks BOSS btw). But still, I always liked how mature and smart she looks (her idle animation has her rod float around her while she stands calmly).
Actually I found a sheet of VP character portrait art. Let's enjoy! 🌸 They're wonderfully drawn and got a lot of character to them.
Oh man yes. She went from this bizarre and pointless bikini-assassin outfit, and into a plausible-looking person.
Actually, I've loved folks posting positive examples in here!! So I kinda wanna go in on MK11.
The thing that killed me was the lack of variety. They were basically all swimsuits, and they literally looked like they came from the same world/artist. Now they have new added palettes, and they clearly look like they come from a real place with a real culture (that isn't a culture of fighting death matches, edgy masks, and strappy string bikinis) – their new looks ACTUALLY tell a story.
They nailed the animations for them too.
Each character has a distinct look (facial capture for the win!). Still fierce. Absolutely still sexy; but now it feels way less cheap; it's way more appealing because the whole package is better made.
Sorta squeaking in the friendships were/remain great. The oldschool throwback outfits here I feel in some way point out how silly the looks were before (I know, palette swaps saved on data). But it took a while for that stank of sameness would be wiped away.
Jade genuinely looks intimidating yet now graceful and with a way nicer outfit; I also love the confident pose with the staff.
Mileena always deserved better lol. And she got it!! It's also just absolutely ACES that the new looks still pay attention to motifs of how their original designs are based. MK11 is really what you'd expect they'd look IRL. She's still a Ninja; she's still slightly exposed, but now not trying to break her spine to get a boobs/butt pose and character-defining "purple" look... Like that it's, that was their distinction was basically colour coding and their quirk. Now it's ACTUAL outfitting.
I swear their original art only designed one kind of outfit.... THEY WERE SO SAMEY. Anyways, Sheeva might be one of my favourite redesigns. She was like the epitome of 90s mega-muscular-and-super-pissed look for ages; and she had those two extra hands so she could have even MORE SPIKEY GAUNTLETS to wear...for maximum PUMMEL. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
But I love her new armor (the cloth and metallic designs again look like they come from a place with fashion/culture and not just SPIKEY GAUNTLET AND STRING BIKINI WORLD ™.
I skimmed a lot of MK10; things indeed got better here....But I don't think their designs were as fun or more cohesively and fun designed as MK11. Jacqui got a plain ol' tank top, army tags, and metal fist is really tame lol. MK11 gets body armor, way more colour, and a way more fun and expanded visual design (and some swell alts).
That's a bit of a weird response? Some women just.... have large breasts? That only becomes a problem when every single character is spilling out. Please don't shame a body type.
The thing is I'm not trying to shame a body type. I'm just trying to figure out why people think it has to be the standard.
