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Will EA leave the Triple A business?

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Twinsen

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vestan said:
Please get off that Youtube outrage kool-aid for a bit and join us in the real world OP

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Insightful chart. Up until stumbling upon it I wasn't even aware of NetEase's existence or that Apple's gaming revenue was higher than Microsoft's...

Genuine question though, how in the world does Bandai Namco make that much money?
 
jawzpause

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Don't worry about EA FIFA will continue to make millions and millions for them to cancel as many star wars games as they want
 
Acorn

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EA is triple A to their bones. They don't have any other way of doing things and haven't for the last 10 years atleast, go big or go home for good and bad.
 
Budi

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vestan said:
Please get off that Youtube outrage kool-aid for a bit and join us in the real world OP

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Nintendo is doomed.
Ceannaire said:
Kinda get OPs point if you considering the sports games as just below AAA standards in terms of production budgets
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Just the licensing fees costs more than the whole development for many games. And they put a ton into advertising too.

Edit: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/dec/21/fifa-video-game-changed-football
Fifa 2016's development budget, by contrast, is estimated to have been in the region of $350m.
 
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rras1994 said:
They don't own those studios though, so it's not quite the same thing? The games they actually make are all AAA outside mobile
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I mean, why they need to own those studios? EA is a publisher, if those games exist is because of them with how much publishing deals. I don't really understand why this rule needs to be made. lol

Besides, even inside with their own studios we have examples with The Sims 4, Plants vs Zombies Garden Warfare 2 and such.

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Fair enough, forgot about unravel. EA originals is just publishing, was talking about developing as is this thread.
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This thread to me seems more of EA as a publisher than talking about their internal studios.
 

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Nemesis162 said:
I mean, why they need to own those studios? EA is a publisher, if those games exist is because of them with how much publishing deals. I don't really understand why this rule needs to be made. lol

Besides, even inside with their own studios we have examples with The Sims 4, Plants vs Zombies Garden Warfare 2 and such.



This thread to me seems more of EA as a publisher than talking about their internal studios.
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Sims 4 is AAA, just cus it's cartoon style, don't make it not AAA.
 

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This is a crazy thread. My word.

That said, I'd be OK with EA leaving everything else behind and leaning into sports more than they do already. Let DICE and the Titanfall/Dead Space IP's go and bring back the Big series of alternative sports games alongside FIFA/Madden.
 
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I love how people keep uncritically repeating that ME Andromeda was a commercial failure when that game was one of the top selling games of 2017
 
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Nemesis162 said:
I mean, why they need to own those studios? EA is a publisher, if those games exist is because of them with how much publishing deals. I don't really understand why this rule needs to be made. lol

Besides, even inside with their own studios we have examples with The Sims 4, Plants vs Zombies Garden Warfare 2 and such.



This thread to me seems more of EA as a publisher than talking about their internal studios.
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Thread wouldn't make sense as being in a publisher sense, they don't publish external AAA titles, aside from Titanfall which they eventually bought.
 

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SolicitorPirate said:
I love how people keep uncritically repeating that ME Andromeda was a commercial failure when that game was one of the top selling games of 2017
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Hey, people on this forum keep saying that BioWare's about to die even though I don't think they've published a single game under EA that didn't make a profit, so I guess it's to be expected at this point.
 
EvilBoris

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We might see them back off from certain genres and from trying new IPs. As they have done before .
But as they are literally a few weeks away from a new AAA IP, hopefully that isn't for a while yet
 
Demacabre

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So long as they have Madden and FIFA, it will never happen. Bear in mind, not excusing or even endorsing them. They are scum as corporate suits. They have great development teams under them and I wish some of them could pull a Bungie, But that is the reality.
 
Reinhard

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They won't ever stop sports titles on consoles, lol. Plus of course mobile games. But everything else could be shelved, especially if the next Battlefield disappoints sales wise like V and Anthem fails.
 
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Reinhard said:
They won't ever stop sports titles on consoles, lol. Plus of course mobile games. But everything else could be shelved, especially if the next Battlefield disappoints sales wise like V and Anthem fails.
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Oh yeah sports I know will continue to thrive, but im curious about how they might change their approach to other games if anthem doesn't hit like they want it to.
 
Beastie91

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Nah OP

EA is Immortal bastards unfortunately. Plus it doesent help that us as a consumer continue to throw waves of cash at all them microtransactions.
 

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Secretofmateria said:
Oh yeah sports I know will continue to thrive, but im curious about how they might change their approach to other games if anthem doesn't hit like they want it to.
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They just invested in moving BioWare Edmonton to a bigger and more expensive workplace as well as upping their expectations on Anthem due to pre-orders exceeding expectations in their last EA Investor report, as well as continueing to make DA4, so I think they are still investing in those kinds of games :p Sims 4 is also mentioned positively along with Fifa as making revenue in their EA Investor reports so that title is doing well. The only one a bit iffy at the moment is Battlefield and they probably are still monetarily sucessful even with a difficult launch and marketing campaign. They also are the main people that created Frostbite. I don't see them going to just their sports games, especially when they will need more games in general for their game subscription service which seems to be doing well.
 
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You can't talk about EA and not mention anything about their sports branch. FIFA alone is a bigger beast than almost any other AAA you may think of.
 

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Secretofmateria said:
Oh yeah sports I know will continue to thrive, but im curious about how they might change their approach to other games if anthem doesn't hit like they want it to.
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Then there won't be an Anthem 2, Bioware will downsize a bit and the next Dragon Age game will be their last chance.

But even ignoring the sports studios, you still have DICE with plenty of bounceback potential, you still have Respawn that they just paid a pretty penny for, and you have other studios supporting the overall infrastructure with mobile games and ongoing titles that still make them money to allow for the potential disappointments that have occurred recently.
 
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rras1994 said:
They just invested in moving BioWare Edmonton to a bigger and more expensive workplace as well as upping their expectations on Anthem due to pre-orders exceeding expectations in their last EA Investor report, as well as continueing to make DA4, so I think they are still investing in those kinds of games :p Sims 4 is also mentioned positively along with Fifa as making revenue in their EA Investor reports so that title is doing well. The only one a bit iffy at the moment is Battlefield and they probably are still monetarily sucessful even with a difficult launch and marketing campaign. They also are the main people that created Frostbite. I don't see them going to just their sports games, especially when they will need more games in general for their game subscription service which seems to be doing well.
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Yeah I agree that frostbite probably gave dice a ton of leeway within the company. And i quite like their games, ive been playing a lot of battlefield v, but i guess with it not taking off the way they thougnt it would i cant help but be a bit concerned
 
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No. Their sports titles bring in a ridiculous amount of stable annual income. That provides a huge safety net to experiment on other projects even if those new projects will be GaaS as well (Anthem).
 
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Secretofmateria said:
Ive been thinking about this quite a bit. EA had had a rough go of it this generation. Between the absolute blundering of the star wars license. Commercial bombs like titanfall 2, battlefront 2, battlefield v, mirrors edge 2, and mass effect andromeda, and the general negativity that surrounds the company and its studios, i have to wonder if there is a major restructuring in their future. I cant imagine this star wars deal has been very profitable for them outside of battlefront 1. And those games that tanked cant have been cheap endevors. If rumors are to
Be believed much of biowares future relies on anthems success. And if that fails its not unreasonable to picture EA leaving behind large triple a games that im sure cost them a fortune to develop in favor of smaller, more easily monetizable titles like their sports series. Anyway just a thought. What do you guys think, also the same could be worried about for bethesda with their line of commercial bombs.
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I'm fairly sure that Battlefront 2 still made a ton of money. Mirror's Edge and Andromeda doing poorly just means they'll be even more risk-averse when it comes to non-Sports titles. And their sports stuff is still AAA.
 
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So, should I go visit Bioware in Edmonton, and take a tour, before EA management sees this thread and decides to kill them and the rest of their own revenue streams?
 
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How can you be a living breathing human being and come to this conclusion. OP talks about Fifa as if its put together by 6 blokes in a shed.
 
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