Will Smith WILL NOT return as Deadshot in "Suicide Squad 2"

InstigateAndInquire · Feb 27, 2019

Can we get some starpower for this, please. I remember when they announced Robbie, Smith, Leto, Davis, Courtney, Delevingne kinda all at once while simultaneously mentioning they had courted Ryan Gosling for Joker. It was crazy how they were willing to go all-in on Suicide Squad, at the time an untested property.

SageShinigami · Feb 27, 2019

Ronin1138 said:
Not only is Nick fury black in the comics he's been depicted as Samuel l Jackson since like 2000

And yes it does matter .

The proper comic Nick Fury is white, and the Ultimates sucked. This argument is bad.

Sweeney Swift · Feb 27, 2019

Khanimus said:
POC actors are forever at the mercy of a medium that is dominated by a status-quo of straight white men, and any deviation or reinterpretation is false?

I wouldn't exactly say it's exclusive just to POC actors, that user 100% seems like the type who complained/still does complain about Male Ghostbusters and Woman Doctor Who

Ronin1138 · Feb 27, 2019

Khanimus said:
So if the Ultimate comics didn't intentionally make Fury look like SLJ, but he was cast in the role anyway, it would be a mistake? POC actors are forever at the mercy of a medium that is dominated by a status-quo of straight white men, and any deviation or reinterpretation is false?

Now your putting words in my mouth. You brought up that Sam Jackson was cast as nick fury and some other guy asked about it. So I brought up the fact that he had been black in the comics for prior to Sam Jackson appearing as the character.

And as for what your saying, people being underrepresented in Hollywood or comics as a medium being white dominated is irrelevant to Deadshot being a white guy. When Deadshot was created and rose to prominence there were Black, Asian, etc. characters but Floyd happened to be white. I really don't know what else to tell you other than my preference is to see a classic faithful adaptation of Deadshot on screen (Specifically the John Ostrander version of the character) with all his traits and yes part of that would be for him to be white and sporting a moustache.

Messi · Feb 27, 2019

Chuckling at Deadshoot

Ronin1138 · Feb 27, 2019

SageShinigami said:
The proper comic Nick Fury is white, and the Ultimates sucked. This argument is bad.

Didn't the old school white Nick Fury turn out to be evil and was replaced by one that closely resembled the Ultimate version of the character? This happened in the "proper" comics as you call them

shenden · Feb 27, 2019

This reminds me that I need to revisit the movie again, I remember nothing but Will Smith from it. Also Im curious to see Margot Robbies performance as Harley again, it feels like everyone wants to keep her and being the most talked about character/performance from that movie, and I remember nothing special about her at all.

SageShinigami · Feb 27, 2019

Ronin1138 said:
Didn't the old school white Nick Fury turn out to be evil and was replaced by one that closely resembled the Ultimate version of the character? This happened in the "proper" comics as you call them

No, it didn't.

sooperkool · Feb 27, 2019

Ronin1138 said:
I said comic version looked like SLJ 8 years before SLJ played the character so it was perfect casting

Your diet racism is annoying as hell and you sound like a fool.

Fart Master · Feb 27, 2019

Sinfamy said:
Why is there going to be a Suicide Squad 2?

oh

Lol it's kinda sad how much marketing can do.

Fart Master · Feb 27, 2019

Ronin1138 said:
Deadshot isn't black so it made no sense to even have him in the "first one"

fuck off bro these are fucking comic book characters

Khanimus · Feb 27, 2019

Ronin1138 said:
Now your putting words in my mouth. You brought up that Sam Jackson was cast as nick fury and some other guy asked about it. So I brought up the fact that he had been black in the comics for prior to Sam Jackson appearing as the character.

And as for what your saying, people being underrepresented in Hollywood or comics as a medium being white dominated is irrelevant to Deadshot being a white guy. When Deadshot was created and rose to prominence there were Black, Asian, etc. characters but Floyd happened to be white. I really don't know what else to tell you other than my preference is to see a classic faithful adaptation of Deadshot on screen (Specifically the John Ostrander version of the character) with all his traits and yes part of that would be for him to be white and sporting a moustache.

Deadshot's whiteness has little to do with anything. He's white because media still treats white people as the given default, whereas poc characters constantly are forced to justify their inclusion.

Your criticism has nothing to do with Will Smith or his performance. Your criticism with his casting, in your own words, is that he's black. I don't have to put any words into your mouth. You've made your shit argument perfectly clear on your own.

RustyNails · Feb 27, 2019

"Deadshoot" lolll

I don't know why but it's cracking me up. As for the non-reprisal casting, probably the smartest decision Will Smith has made in the last 10 years.

Saucycarpdog · Feb 28, 2019

Jai Courtney better return as Captain Boomerang. He was one of the few highlights of the movie.

Ronin1138 · Feb 28, 2019

Khanimus said:
Deadshot's whiteness has little to do with anything. He's white because media still treats white people as the given default, whereas poc characters constantly are forced to justify their inclusion.

Your criticism has nothing to do with Will Smith or his performance. Your criticism with his casting, in your own words, is that he's black. I don't have to put any words into your mouth. You've made your shit argument perfectly clear on your own.

Trust me plenty can be said about his performance. Aside from the obvious, he behaves and acts nothing like the comic version. He just phoned it in and gave his standard Will Smith performance. Seemed like he was more interested in acting along side Margot Robbie (I believe they did a few other films together around the same time) then he was being in the movie.

Razgriz-Specter · Feb 28, 2019

Drayco21 said:
There should not be a Suicide Squad without Deadshot.

Can either easily show his absence, or recast him.

Khanimus · Feb 28, 2019

Ronin1138 said:
Trust me plenty can be said about his performance. Aside from the obvious, he behaves and acts nothing like the comic version. He just phoned it in and gave his standard Will Smith performance. Seemed like he was more interested in acting along side Margot Robbie (I believe they did a few other films together around the same time) then he was being in the movie.

Shame that's not the base of your argument instead of him simply being black.

DanteSparda504 · Feb 28, 2019

He was the only redeeming quality of the first. Losing Will just took away the 2% interest I had in seeing any sequels.

PhaZe 5 · Feb 28, 2019

This is getting annoying. They need to find some actors who are committed and stick to them.

Schreckweg 5000 · Feb 28, 2019

Ronin1138 said:
Deadshot isn't black so it made no sense to even have him in the "first one"

There are exactly 2 people bothered by Deadshot being played by a black person.

One of them is a racist.

B.K. · Feb 28, 2019

Out of the DCEU even faster than Ben Affleck.

boontobias · Feb 28, 2019

I thought the character's whole power is that he never misses his shoots

Rosenkrantz · Feb 28, 2019

Good, he was terrible and played the same guy he plays in 95% of his big budget flicks.

PanSexual_Peacock · Feb 28, 2019

I'd rather see him replaced with Deathstroke

SaraNWrap · Feb 28, 2019

Ronin1138 said:
For the same reason casting a Hispanic guy as black panther wouldn't make any god damn sense

This isn't complicated

Nice, I didn't think we'd get any dumbass takes in here but someone comes through in the end.

menacer · Feb 28, 2019

Oh no how terrible.

Laserdisk · Feb 28, 2019

#shame
What will they do without the 1998 box office draw Will Smith?

Joni · Feb 28, 2019

dead souls said:
And nothing of value was lost.

Yes, something was.

Edward · Feb 28, 2019

If they recast him i would go with Chiwetel Ejiofor. Although, i wouldn't mind Deathstroke showing up if they decide to just axe the character.

faced · Feb 28, 2019

Career Suicide Squad

SlickShoesRUCRazy · Feb 28, 2019

That's too bad, I liked him as deadshot

Patitoloco · Feb 28, 2019

Sinfamy said:
Why is there going to be a Suicide Squad 2?

oh

And an Oscar.

abracadaver · Feb 28, 2019

Weird. Just last week I saw a video where he said he would love to do a Deadshot movie

big_z · Feb 28, 2019

It was reported not long ago that Margot Robbie might be out as well. Was there ever any update to that?

Praetorpwj · Feb 28, 2019

You only need Waller. Everything else is tailored to circumstances.

Mediking · Feb 28, 2019

CoolestSpot said:
Jaden Smith appears as his son

LOL

Dan Thunder · Feb 28, 2019

I'm almost ashamed to be writing this but I hope they keep Jai Courtney in there as I thought he was one of the best things in the first film.

Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go shower.

Zulith · Feb 28, 2019

Was Smith supposed to be a selling point for this franchise? I don't think so. Deadshot isn't much of a popular character anyway. It was always the Harley and Joker draw that roped people in on seeing the first one. They're gonna have to come up with something more creative this time around since they can't rely on that angle anymore.

Boxy Brown · Feb 28, 2019

Dan Thunder said:
I'm almost ashamed to be writing this but I hope they keep Jai Courtney in there as I thought he was one of the best things in the first film.

Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go shower.

Stop being over dramatic. The cast aside from LetoJoker was great. The script is what failed them.

Vonocourt · Feb 28, 2019

Saucycarpdog said:
Jai Courtney better return as Captain Boomerang. He was one of the few highlights of the movie.

Dan Thunder said:
I'm almost ashamed to be writing this but I hope they keep Jai Courtney in there as I thought he was one of the best things in the first film.

Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go shower.

Yep, its weird given how he's like a bootleg Sam Worthington in everything else.

Zulith said:
Was Smith supposed to be a selling point for this franchise? I don't think so. Deadshot isn't much of a popular character anyway. It was always the Harley and Joker draw that roped people in on seeing the first one. They're gonna have to come up with something more creative this time around since they can't rely on that angle anymore.

Tom Hardy dropped out of the project because rewrites turned it into a Will Smith vehicle supposedly, so yeah.

Ichthyosaurus · Feb 28, 2019

They need to bring back my girl, Katana.

Jade1962 · Feb 28, 2019

shenden said:
This reminds me that I need to revisit the movie again, I remember nothing but Will Smith from it. Also Im curious to see Margot Robbies performance as Harley again, it feels like everyone wants to keep her and being the most talked about character/performance from that movie, and I remember nothing special about her at all.

I felt the same. I'm guessing it was more her "look" that garners the praise. There were no great performances in this movie although I did find it entertaining.

Dan Thunder · Feb 28, 2019

Ross62 said:
Stop being over dramatic. The cast aside from LetoJoker was great. The script is what failed them.

I never criticised the rest of the cast so stop being over defensive.

Dan Thunder · Feb 28, 2019

Vonocourt said:
Yep, its weird given how he's like a bootleg Sam Worthington in everything else.

Tom Hardy dropped out of the project because rewrites turned it into a Will Smith vehicle supposedly, so yeah.

Didn't he drop out because filming of The Revenant overran into the start of filming for Suicide Squad?

Bus-TEE · Feb 28, 2019

This screams of Smith pricing himself out of the gig.

He signed a multi picture deal with WB for multiple Suicide Squad sequels and though he was contracted to return his fee would have increased too. If he wasn't willing to drop his fee, in light of some misfires diminishing his potential to draw an audience, then I get why both parties walked away.

Would it be worth Warners paying big money to Smith, and perhaps a bit of the backend, if his inclusion isn't the big selling point here with Robbie's Harley Quinn, Gunn's new film and the DC brand itself all the big selling points.

Dan Thunder · Feb 28, 2019

Bus-TEE said:
This screams of Smith pricing himself out of the gig.

He signed a multi picture deal with WB for multiple Suicide Squad sequels and though he was contracted to return his fee would have increased too. If he wasn't willing to drop his fee, in light of some misfires diminishing his potential to draw an audience, then I get why both parties walked away.

Would it be worth Warners paying big money to Smith, and perhaps a bit of the backend, if his inclusion isn't the big selling point here with Robbie's Harley Quinn, Gunn's new film and the DC brand itself all the big selling points.

Would he even be available for filming? He's currently filming Bad Boys 3 and then I think he's going straight onto Bright 2 so given that the sequel to Suicide Squad is apparently due to start filming in September I'm not sure he'd have been about to fit it into his schedule. Plus I assume he'll be doing a lot of press tours for Gemini Man in October.

Knight in Shining Armani · Feb 28, 2019

alexi52 said:
Honestly he wasn't a bad Deadshot

It was a bad Deadshot, at least in the way that he was written/characterized. Deadshot was Will Smith playing Will Smith with an eyepatch.

Arrowverse Deadshot is miles better in terms of accuracy.

Bus-TEE · Feb 28, 2019

Dan Thunder said:
Would he even be available for filming? He's currently filming Bad Boys 3 and then I think he's going straight onto Bright 2 so given that the sequel to Suicide Squad is apparently due to start filming in September I'm not sure he'd have been about to fit it into his schedule. Plus I assume he'll be doing a lot of press tours for Gemini Man in October.

If all parties wanted to make it work they could. Remember when Tom Hardy exited the original Suicide Squad and the studio blamed it other 'commitments' which then turned out to be the press tour for Fury Road, a film that WB themselves made?

Dan Thunder · Feb 28, 2019

Bus-TEE said:
If all parties wanted to make it work they could. Remember when Tom Hardy exited the original Suicide Squad and the studio blamed it other 'commitments' which then turned out to be the press tour for Fury Road, a film that WB themselves made?

I mentioned in another post that wasn't it because The Revenant ran over on filming by quite a few months and literally just finished like the day before shooting of SS started?

Baccus · Feb 28, 2019

He was an awful Deadshot. Good of them for only keeping the one character that worked.

Will Smith WILL NOT return as Deadshot in "Suicide Squad 2"

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