Will we ever get a roguelike as good as The Binding of Isaac: Afterbirth+ in our lifetime?

Lunchbox

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Oct 27, 2017
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I have 1000 hours into this & it’s by far my most played game ever despite taking suggestions on other games like Spelunky, Flinthook etc. nothing gets it quite like this game; the item variety and moment to moment gameplay have left me spoiled I guess, I keep trying to move on but it makes me feel like I don’t even like the genre I just like Isaac which makes me sad.

I’m just stuck waiting for the next one I assume but if anyone has other suggestions please throw them at me.
 

jman4371

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Oct 25, 2017
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Dead cells but not even that kept me like Isaac did. That game is a freaking masterpiece.
My best suggestion: get the new Isaac expansion that comes out this year 🙃
 

sheaaaa

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Oct 28, 2017
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Moment to moment gameplay of Isaac doesn't even come close to the likes of Gungeon, Spelunky, Monolith and Dead Cells. All are drastically better games than Isaac.
 

ChrisD

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Oct 25, 2017
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Your Binding of Isaac is my Spelunky. Like, Slay the Spire has recently grabbed my attention in a way that most roguelike games don’t. But I’m pretty sure that there will probably never be another Spelunky for me. Like, it’s basically “perfect.”

(This thread reminds me I do need to give Isaac another shot, as well as Gungeon; need to buy Dead Cells)
 

Psychoward

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Nov 7, 2017
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I couldn't get into Isaac at all. I just don't enjoy the core gameplay.

I have two friends that both play it religiously though.
 

napkins

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Nov 18, 2017
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I prefer Monolith. The random elements seem fair and being able to move across rooms quickly and even fast travel to any room you've been to on floor you're currently on also keep things moving quickly. I tried Isaac again recently, but it didn't click for me. But I think I might try again.
 

Horned Reaper

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Nov 7, 2017
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The moment to moment gameplay is far from great in my opinion. It's the game breaking powerup synergies which makes it unique.
 

RockmanBN

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Oct 25, 2017
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Tbh I liked Isaac Rebirth until the Afterbirth DLC. Item pool balance feels worse with all the new tear modifiers and not enough stat changing ones to balance it out and all the new bosses with scaling damage. Scaling damage is no fun and makes great runs feel like crap especially on Delirium. Really hope Repentance fixes all these issues this Summer.
 

Ninjician-

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Oct 29, 2017
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I had a friend that was completely turned off by the narrative of BOI. I love it.

I couldn't get into Gungeon, but I feel like I want to break it like I break Isaac.

Dead Cells is a close second.
 

Aprikurt

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Oct 29, 2017
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I love Isaac but Spelunky is the GOAT and I dread to think of my playtime once it launches on Switch.

I really don’t get the fuss with Gungeon at all.
 

bixente

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Jan 27, 2019
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Dead Cells is my favourite. I like that some of your progress carries over to your next run, rather than losing everything. And I just enjoy the core gameplay itself. Controls great.
 

Cincaid

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Oct 28, 2017
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I agree OP, I have hundreds and hundreds of hours in that game across several platforms. I just wish that they supported PS4 and Xbox One better, as the publisher Nicalis comes off having a very off-putting attitude towards anything that isn't PC or Nintendo Switch. I doubt the next expansion will be released day one, or at all, on my preferred platforms.
 

Holundrian

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Oct 25, 2017
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Never took that much to Isaac. Hades even in EA is one of my favorite roguelikes outside of that I tend to like a lot of roguelikes that seem to merge with other genres like Into the Breach or Slay the Spire.
 

Jerm411

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Oct 27, 2017
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BOI is a top 5 game of all time for me...love it, easily my favorite roguelike.

Still play it religiously on Switch.

Still holding out for a sequel, don't know if we'll get it though.
 

David___

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Oct 25, 2017
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BOI is a top 5 game of all time for me...love it, easily my favorite roguelike.

Still play it religiously on Switch.

Still holding out for a sequel, don't know if we'll get it though.
There’s a new expansion coming out later in the year but I doubt theres going to be a full on sequel
 
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I honestly thought Isaac kinda sucked.

Dead Cells, Tangledeep, Dungeons of Dredmor, Monolith, and Black Future '88 are all fucking pro though.
 

Kyuuji

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Nov 8, 2017
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I’ll echo others on Slay the Spire. Loved TBoI and it’s the only one close to gripping me as hard.
 

XSX

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Oct 31, 2017
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Isaac is one of my favourite games of all time, I agree. Dead Cells is decent. Gungeon the controls feel weird to me for some reason (switch). And I know this is a hot take but Spelunky is good but highly overrated.

There’s a new expansion coming out later in the year but I doubt theres going to be a full on sequel

There is hope! :p
 

Tain

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Oct 25, 2017
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Isaac is a game that I don't think I'll ever get over the aesthetic hurdle with. It also seems like power up combinations are a massive part of the game? If so that doesn't sound up my alley.

Gungeon is cool, though, and Monolith cooler still.

I initially was hesitant to bring up Downwell (which I like more than the above) because I don't see it in the same genre, but if Slay the Spire is coming up in this thread then yeah, I'll throw in Downwell and the arcade heavy hitters like Psikyo and Raizing's games (which kinda trounce everything else in this post for me lol).
 
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Lunchbox

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I’ll try Slay the Spire I heard it gets really restrictive with deck building towards bosses you know you’ll have to face late game but maybe I can get some good fun out of it.
 

Sciz

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Oct 25, 2017
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If Spelunky 2 can manage to be an improvement on the original, it's going to be mindbogglingly amazing.
 

GokouD

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Oct 30, 2017
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Totally different gameplay, but the same genre, I don't think anything will beat Into The Breach for me.
 

spineduke

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Oct 25, 2017
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Gungeon is super vanilla compared to Isaac plus all its expansions. Nothing comes close if you're looking for synergy + item variety.

You can try Bumbo, its a card deck flavored variant of Isaac

Other recommends that people have thrown in

Monolith (similar formula, a bit vanilla but its wonderfully executed - check out the DLC as well)

Hades (again, more vanilla but fun to play, lots of unlocks to go for)

Synthetik (this is military themed, and you have a lot of weapons/items to play with)

Noita (not quite the same but the game gives huge flexbility to fashion wands that can do unpredictable, and often destructive things)
 
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LossAversion

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Oct 28, 2017
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Not hating on Isaac but pretty much every other roguelike that I've tried has been more enjoyable for me.

Wizard of Legend, Enter The Gungeon, Rogue Legacy, FTL, etc. Whether it was the feel of the combat, the overall aesthetic, or the gameplay style... I'd take any of those over Isaac.
 

kittens

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Oct 27, 2017
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I found the gameplay in Isaac really difficult to get into. I hated the feel of the game.