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Will we ever get another 007 game?

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The ability to create amazing games out of a lot of movie properties is there, just being severely underutilized.

I think a great James bond game could be some kind of mix between uncharted and mass effect. Something along the lines of a casino royale's high stakes poker scene with numerous branching paths could be done nowadays.
Smooth talking, aggressive dialogue, using evidence you've found before for leverage, etc.
Plenty of games have nailed 3rd person action setpieces.

Why isnt it happening?

The same could be said with numerous other film franchises with the potential for great games.
Some examples that come to mind; mission impossible, avengers, Harry Potter, star wars, jason Bourne, Indiana jones...the list could go on forever.
 
no1

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Seems like 007 Legends was the last one. Sorta disappointing since I did enjoy playing them even tho they were too great.
 

Cybersai

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Did Activision let their license expire?

They don't need another FPS when they have Call of Duty, Destiny and Overwatch.
 
TibimusPrime

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I'd really wish they'd make more bond games, especially a good one, sadly, a lot of the bond games are bad, IP is being mismanaged horribly.
 
LuckyLinus

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Bond isnt worth what it used to be, I couldnt care much about a Bond game unless its a Goldeneye remake.
 
SirNinja

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Nobody has the license anymore. Activision used to, but they let it expire a few years back after the last few 007 games turned out horribly.

It's one of the many reasons why that HD remaster of Goldeneye 007 for the 360 is never going to see the light of day beyond that leaked footage.
 
TheBaldwin

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Who even owns the rights anymore?

Wasnt it rumoured telltale were doing a game?

if you want a great spy game, just play hitman.

If you want an action game, wait for the new splinter cell. As much as id love a 007 game, most devs/publichers would probably find it easier and more cost effective to just make there own Spy IP.
 
Falconbox

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Bond game:

Just make a 3rd person shooter and combine the stealth and story of an earlier Splinter Cell game with the setpiece action moments of an Uncharted game.

I can't believe this hasn't been done yet.
 
Meows

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All I want is a Nightfire quality multiplayer and an Everything Or Nothing quality singleplayer scenario. Those games were so good (and so was the first game in that little "trilogy" - Agent Under Fire).
 
skeezx

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hard to think what could really be done with it though. some kind of Hitman-esque thing would be cool i guess

as much as i like old school shooters and goldeneye the james bond IP is kind of irrelevant in that regard. unless they want to do a straight up remaster or remake or whatever
 
Truant

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I had some ideas about a game called Bond Legacy set in the 80's, where the player would create a younger M16 agent and go on the hunt for a rogue and aging Bond. The game would take inspiration from Deus Ex and Mass Effect, and explore the more personal side of Bond as you chase him across North America.
 
Adamska

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The people who manage the Bond IP are fucking insane
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Yes, certainly the people behind over 50 years of movies in the series are "insane". Clearly they haven't the faintest idea of what to do with the character, I mean, look at how Daniel Craig's movies were *atrociously* received.

Kidding aside, it's clear that this hiatus in 007 games is a positive thing. I mean, 007 being stuck in FPS games was never a good thing (all nostalgia for Goldeneye aside, of course), and a game that tries to follow what makes the character good in the first place (such as Everything or Nothing) is the right way to go in order to both make a quality game and not dilute the brand. The licensing deal with Activision, however, did not took any advantage of that, merely slapping the character in run of the mill FPS games. Due to that, I'm sure that the people over at Danjaq are being very careful with licensing deals for further 007 games, and if one gets announced in the future, I'm hoping it'll be a game that leverages the character's strength and pathos instead of just being another shooter game with gadgets.
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Who even owns the rights anymore?
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Danjaq. They always owed the rights to the character, and they are responsible for licensing it for other products/media.
 

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I would just like a Bond game that's less focused on running and gunning and have more puzzle elements
 
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skeezx said:
hard to think what could really be done with it though. some kind of Hitman-esque thing would be cool i guess

as much as i like old school shooters and goldeneye the james bond IP is kind of irrelevant in that regard. unless they want to do a straight up remaster or remake or whatever
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This would be great, too.
 
RedSwirl

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An ideal Bond game to me would probably feel like Deus Ex but with augmentations replaced by gadgets.
 
Ronan_Berthelot

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Telltale was doing a 007 game that was leaked a few month ago but I think it was cancelled.

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SnatcherHunter

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With game development being stupid expensive, publishers rather have their devs work on original IPS without having the need to pay an external company a percentage of the sales just to utilize a license.

Same reason why UbiSoft created Assassin Creed and slowly killed Prince of Persia.
 
UltraMagnus

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Bond is more timeless than 99% of video game characters. If they can get it for cheap, Nintendo should buy the rights and use it to negotiate a deal for GoldenEye 007 on N64 Classic as well as making new games for Switch.
 
Noisepurge

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IP seems to go in waves, we got a bunch of games on the PS2 era, then another wave with the PS3,
Bloodstone
Goldeneye Remake
Quantum of Solace
And as such quite an eclectic set of games at that.
Sooo, maybe with the next movie?
 
KingdomHeartsFan

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Doesn't Sony make the Bond movies? I think the best bet for Bond coming back is for them to make the next game, kinda like what's going on with Spiderman.
 
Timu

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Noisepurge said:
IP seems to go in waves, we got a bunch of games on the PS2 era, then another wave with the PS3,
Bloodstone
Goldeneye Remake
Quantum of Solace
And as such quite an eclectic set of games at that.
Sooo, maybe with the next movie?
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You forgot the last/worst one, 007 Legends, but yeah last gen wasn't as good as Gen 6 for Bond games, not even close.
 
Ororo

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No one sees it as a viable franchise anymore. Rare made James Bond synonymous with video games after GoldenEye and EA stole the license away from them. EA tried doing a sequel to Goldeneye of the next movie with mild success and then ventured off into making original stories not based on a specific Pierce Brosnan and even one from Sean Connery all being mild successes. But it seems they really wanted it to be THE game like Goldeneye was and they never captured that feel, eventually they made Goldeneye: Rogue Agent, which was the return of "Goldeneye" but in name only as it was an entirely different game but the magic was not re-created at least in terms of revitalizing the franchise and they gave up on the franchise.

Activision got the license and similarly tried to do original stories in between the movies with the latest bond only to later move on to move on to a "best of" game but like with EA no matter how much effort they put into the games or marketing Bond was not a AAA franchise like they wanted it to be. Like EA they also released their own take on Goldeneye to try to relive the magic of the original game but it didn't quite work out either and they also gave up on the franchise. So, long story short Bond has kinda continued to live off of the fame of Rare's Goldeneye and while not all games after have been bad or financial failures, no matter how hard they've tried they weren't able to make it the name it had in video game that Rare did and they gave up on the franchise and no one seems to care anymore.

Even an official re-release of Goldeneye or a remake wouldn't set the world on fire, it really was a product of its time, it revolutionized and popularized FPSs on consoles but now there are tons of alternatives that do everything better and trying a third person take on the franchise which is more logical hasn't helped. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles have had a similar fate in video games if we think about it.
 
UltraMagnus

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sdp said:
No one sees it as a viable franchise anymore. Rare made James Bond synonymous with video games after GoldenEye and EA stole the license away from them. EA tried doing a sequel to Goldeneye of the next movie with mild success and then ventured off into making original stories not based on a specific Pierce Brosnan and even one from Sean Connery all being mild successes. But it seems they really wanted it to be THE game like Goldeneye was and they never captured that feel, eventually they made Goldeneye: Rogue Agent, which was the return of "Goldeneye" but in name only as it was an entirely different game but the magic was not re-created at least in terms of revitalizing the franchise and they gave up on the franchise.

Activision got the license and similarly tried to do original stories in between the movies with the latest bond only to later move on to move on to a "best of" game but like with EA no matter how much effort they put into the games or marketing Bond was not a AAA franchise like they wanted it to be. Like EA they also released their own take on Goldeneye to try to relive the magic of the original game but it didn't quite work out either and they also gave up on the franchise. So, long story short Bond has kinda continued to live off of the fame of Rare's Goldeneye and while not all games after have been bad or financial failures, no matter how hard they've tried they weren't able to make it the name it had in video game that Rare did and they gave up on the franchise and no one seems to care anymore.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles have had a similar fate in video games if we think about it.
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Give it to Nintendo and let Retro develop. It will become relevant again in a hurry. Being on a platform like Switch where it is the big dog and doesn't have to compete with 50 other FPS' would help it a lot too IMO.
 
Adamska

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sdp said:
No one sees it as a viable franchise anymore.
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Why would anyone see the 9th biggest entertainment franchise in the world as non-viable?

I do think the next game must be something that actually plays close to what the franchise does well rather than trying to fit the franchise within established mechanics and tropes in gaming, which would explain why a new game is taking so long to be made (most publishers are also avoiding making tie-in products for this same reason: it dilutes both the brand the the product when the product is just an average game that sorta takes inspiration from the brand and was released at the same time as a movie or whatever).
 

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KingdomHeartsFan said:
Doesn't Sony make the Bond movies? I think the best bet for Bond coming back is for them to make the next game, kinda like what's going on with Spiderman.
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Sony was only the distributor and that deal is over now anyway. Universal is now the international distributor and MGM/Annapurna will be the U.S. distributors. The movies are made by EON Productions and the Bond IP is owned by its parent company Danjaq (though specific movies in the franchise are jointly owned by other companies).
 
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daTRUballin

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UltraMagnus said:
Give it to Nintendo and let Retro develop. It will become relevant again in a hurry. Being on a platform like Switch where it is the big dog and doesn't have to compete with 50 other FPS' would help it a lot too IMO.
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Yeah, but then we'll see tons of threads where people will complain about Nintendo forcing Retro to work on Bond and not letting them make anything original lol.
 
Windu

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Most licensed games these days are on mobile. So maybe some f2p mobile game, but a console / PC game? Doubtful.
 
Ororo

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Adamska said:
Why would anyone see the 9th biggest entertainment franchise in the world as non-viable?

  • I do think the next game must be something that actually plays close to what the franchise does well rather than trying to fit the franchise within established mechanics and tropes in gaming, which would explain why a new game is taking so long to be made (most publishers are also avoiding making tie-in products for this same reason: it dilutes both the brand the the product when the product is just an average game that sorta takes inspiration from the brand and was released at the same time as a movie or whatever).
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  • dont quote me out of context, it's not a viable video game franchise . If we look at that list then Mickey is above 007 but he also isn't a viable franchise for gaming anymore either .
 
Adamska

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If we look at that list then Mickey is above 007 but he also isn't a viable franchise for gaming anymore either
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Mickey isn't a viable franchise? There are plenty of games starring Mickey right now or even to look forward to (Kingdom Hearts 3, for one). Disney might have changed the way they do business in the gaming space, but that doesn't mean their franchises aren't viable for gaming, and the same goes for 007.
 
Spacejaws

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Is there a chance it's due to the actor licenses?

Like to make the game a large sum has to be paid to Mr. Craig and if it's written anywhere in his contract that when the actor takes on the role then their likeness must be used as representations of Bond?

Then you couldn't make a game without A paying Craig a bunch and B sticky re-licensing situation when Craig is no longer Bond which may be soon.

Must be a reason there can't be many that would stop them capitalizing on something as huge as the video game industry.
 
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