Windows Central: "At launch, we've heard there won't be any "Xbox Scarlett"-exclusive games. For at least a few years (cont-)" [Update in OP]

Nightengale · May 30, 2019

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windowscentral.com said:
Update May 30, 2019: Due to some confusion over this paragraph, I've updated this section. We've heard that there's a possibility that, at least at launch, there will potentially be a period where new Xbox Game Studios titles launch for both Scarlett consoles, and original Xbox One consoles. This potentially pertains to the completion of Game Core, which is a development environment that won't be coming to the older Xbox consoles, as it's tied to the development of Windows Core OS. The finer details on this are very scant, so take it with a pinch of salt.

A lot of stuff in this predictions and expectations article - are what they are, predictions, but there was one interesting nugget here that I felt was an interesting discussion point.

We're expecting the new Xbox consoles to come with an all-new OS, based on Windows Core OS, which we've been covering for some time now. Expect an all-new dashboard based on the Fluent Design System, with the speed and fluidity at the forefront. The next Xbox will be fully backward compatible with the existing library on your Xbox One, including X360 and OG Xbox back compatibility. At launch, we've heard there won't be any "Xbox Scarlett"-exclusive games. For at least a few years, games will ship on both the Xbox One consoles and on the new Scarlett consoles, as is typically the case during a generational transition.

More in the article, written by Jez : https://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-e3-2019-predictions-expectations

Kolbe1894 · May 30, 2019

What's the last crossgen title for X1 and 360 from MS? FH2?

Vinc · May 30, 2019

I wouldn't say it's typical at all for first party games. Interesting. I would feel much less pressure getting the Scarlett at launch if I could just play the games on my One X and know whenever I buy Scarlett they would still work.

Quintus · May 30, 2019

Not a good decision if true.

Yerffej · May 30, 2019

Seems like a good decision.

Syriel · May 30, 2019

This is consistent with the messaging from MS. You'll see the One X shifting into the position currently held by the One S.

Theorry · May 30, 2019

I've heard credible rumors that despite winning awards for its single-player title Hellblade, Ninja Theory is, in fact, working on some sort of multiplayer game, in a similar vein to For Honor or Absolver. I'm not sure how true that one is, so we'll have to wait and see. I've also heard that Rare is working on another multiplayer game, alongside Sea of Thieves, which may come as a disappointment to those expecting a return to Banjo Kazooie or Conker. Still, there's no reason Rare wouldn't be able to outsource and contribute those IPs, similarly to what they're doing with Battletoads and Dlala Studios. I expect we'll see the new Battletoads in some form, even if it is brief.

Microsoft will show off a new Forza Horizon 4 expansion at E3 2019, and I've heard that rather than being location-based, it will be another brand-oriented partnership in a similar vein to the Hot Wheels DLC. If you were a fan of Hot Wheels, you should be pleased with what Playground is bringing to the table here, if what I've heard is true.

bluexy · May 30, 2019

On one hand, I'm all for the iterative console cycle without hard generation lines. On the other, while I love my Xbox One X, I really feel like developers aren't making the most of the hardware beyond 4K support. With a new generation I really want to see developers flex. Will that happen with this iterative approach? Hmm.

tarman76 · May 30, 2019

I guess in other words: Games coming to next gen will be playable on previous gen.

Neoxon · May 30, 2019

To be clear, is this just for first-party games or does this also include third-party games?

TitlePending · May 30, 2019

Quintus said:
Not a good decision if true.

Yerffej said:
Seems like a good decision.

Perfection.

I think it makes total sense. With BC being enabled and touted for both the XBOX and PS5 it would be unnecessarily jarring to have next-gen console exclusives at launch.

Lukas Taves · May 30, 2019

I fucking knew it. No more generation here we come!

NSA · May 30, 2019

Quintus said:
Not a good decision if true.

Yerffej said:
Seems like a good decision.

Era! Beaten!

I like the idea.

I would hope the regular Xbox One (S and X) would eventually work as streaming boxes for xCloud so they would be able to play the next gen games too when they do come out.

MrBob · May 30, 2019

This is going to allow for 4k60+ on the high end next Xbox would be my guess.

sir_crocodile · May 30, 2019

Sounds like a really bad move. I guess you can profile to a degree, but you're constraining what's possible with the new console really.

Dukie85 · May 30, 2019

Quintus said:
Not a good decision if true.

Yerffej said:
Seems like a good decision.

.......Era

Toumari · May 30, 2019

So developers have to still develop for their 2013 console? Oh dear.

Proven · May 30, 2019

Quintus said:
Not a good decision if true.

Yerffej said:
Seems like a good decision.

R dott B · May 30, 2019

Hmm

Strange

SilverX · May 30, 2019

Neoxon said:
To be clear, is this just for first-party games or does this also include third-party games?

Why would they have exclusive third party games if their own first party games aren't exclusive? lol

RF Switch · May 30, 2019

Quintus said:
Not a good decision if true.

uhhh what?

JahIthBer · May 30, 2019

I just feel sorry for devs like Ubisoft who are gonna have to develop for like 10 Consoles & have the Xbox One as the baseline, harsh. faster we move to next gen only the better, but obviously the current gen install base can't be ignored.

Lukas Taves · May 30, 2019

Quintus said:
Not a good decision if true.

What?

It's the best decision for us. It becomes our choice when to upgrade and to which performance level.

Zojirushi · May 30, 2019

At first I thought they just meant Scarlett+PC but the y explicitly mention XBox One. I don't think it's a good idea to drag cross gen stuff along for too long, they're just gonna fall behind on the "what console has the prettiest exclusives" race like they did this gen...

Neoxon · May 30, 2019

SilverX said:
Why would they have exclusive third party games if their own first party games aren't exclusive? lol

I was thinking of Capcom fighting games for next-gen consoles if we get something like Street Fighter VI in Early 2022, namely because Capcom doesn't typically do cross-gen for their fighting games.

Alandring · May 30, 2019

Probably the worst move for next-gen. Microsoft needs to sell as many next-gen Xbox as possible, as quickly as possible. If there is only cross-gen games for years, people who have a Xbox One won't uprade (or will choose a PlayStation 5, which will have exclusives since launch), so the next Xbox will have a bad reputation and won't be able to change it.

I can absolutely understand the interest to give players ONE cross-gen game at launch (Halo: Infinite). But for years? This is pure nonsense.

rokkerkory · May 30, 2019

This is par for course when a new generation begins.

Yearsoflurking · May 30, 2019

SilverX said:
Why would they have exclusive third party games if their own first party games aren't exclusive? lol

1st party only 3rd party will decide whenever they won't to exclude legacy consoles

GUNDAM STARDUST · May 30, 2019

We've been talking about this for a few years now. I'm not sure if it's a good or bad decision ultimately, but it does fit MS current ethos of getting your games out to as many potential buyers as possible.

Indy in the Fridge · May 30, 2019

Good. I just upgraded from a launch XB1 to an XB1X. I'd love to get some mileage out of it without feeling the need to upgrade again.

Puffy · May 30, 2019

good luck to them

Bleu · May 30, 2019

imagine starting the production fo a new game now while still being bound to the limitations of an outdated hardware,
while the new hardware won't sell enough as it brings nothing new and exclusive.. for years !
Meanwhile on the other side.. a ps5 with tempting exclusives...

Phil me in · May 30, 2019

This is terrible but then again its up to the 3rd parties. We've seen MS first party output this gen so I can't see that changing in a year.

Cokomon · May 30, 2019

This makes sense in an era where smartphone upgrade schemes are the norm and game development prices have ballooned. With no longer live in an era of "drop everything and start over". It's too risky and expensive to do that anymore.

christocolus · May 30, 2019

Interesting. There will definitely be 3rd party Next gen only titles. I think the cross-generation talk applies to 1P. anyways E3 can't come soon enough. 10 days :)

jsnepo · May 30, 2019

Quintus said:
Not a good decision if true.

Yerffej said:
Seems like a good decision.

Yikes.

If XOneS is dropped and XOneX becomes the lowest denominator, that'll be fine I guess.

Reinhard · May 30, 2019

Would be fine if they could stop support for base consoles like Xbox One and PS4 and the new baseline is One X and PS4 Pro. But that would be too confusing for consumers.

Yerffej · May 30, 2019

Alandring said:
Probably the worst move for next-gen. Microsoft needs to sell as many next-gen Xbox as possible, as quickly as possible.

Like, yes that would be nice, but I'm not even sure it's the game they are playing anymore. Hardware is one piece of the pie. Everything they are moving towards with collaboration with other companies, opening up on PC, etc, leads me to think they want it this way.

Braaier · May 30, 2019

Alandring said:
Probably the worst move for next-gen. Microsoft needs to sell as many next-gen Xbox as possible, as quickly as possible. If there is only cross-gen games for years, people who have a Xbox One won't uprade (or will choose a PlayStation 5, which will have exclusives since launch), so the next Xbox will have a bad reputation and won't be able to change it.

I can absolutely understand the interest to give players ONE cross-gen game at launch (Halo: Infinite). But for years? This is pure nonsense.

No, they don't. Have you not been paying attention to what Microsoft is doing?

Ricker · May 30, 2019

A few...? I understand at launch and up to 1 year but more then that is not good to me.

Rosebud · May 30, 2019

How games will run on OG Xbox One?

Darkstorne · May 30, 2019

Lukas Taves said:
What?

It's the best decision for us. It becomes our choice when to upgrade and to which performance level.

And it means devs are forced to make all their games run on 2013 hardware, which had dated CPUs even when they first launched. So new games on PS5 and Nextbox can't use SSDs and the 10x CPU leap to push gameplay design and AI - they can only use them to make current gen quality games run at higher frame rates and resolutions. It's a terrible decision if true.

SilverX · May 30, 2019

Neoxon said:
I was thinking of Capcom fighting games for next-gen consoles if we get something like Street Fighter VI in Early 2022, namely because Capcom doesn't typically do cross-gen for their fighting games.

Yearsoflurking said:
1st party only 3rd party will decide whenever they won't to exclude legacy consoles

This is talking about platform exclusive games, not third party games in general. I think you guys are reading "generation exclusive" when third parties do whatever they see fit for their games.

Ghost Slayer · May 30, 2019

If this is true then ehhh.

Vinc · May 30, 2019

Quintus said:
Not a good decision if true.

Definitely not to get me to buy their new console day one, but to keep me in their ecosystem? It's a fantastic decision. It just means I'd buy a PS5 day one and keep buying MS games for my One X until I buy the Scarlett.

Neoxon · May 30, 2019

SilverX said:
This is talking about platform exclusive games, not third party games in general. I think you guys are reading "generation exclusive" when third parties do whatever they see fit for their games.

OOOooohhhhh, my bad.

Hasney · May 30, 2019

Honestly? I'm kinda glad, as long as the difference in power is there to hit 4k/60 (or above, my TV can take 4k/120 dammit!) on the bigger brother. I'll be there on one of the consoles day 1 if that is the case.

Honome · May 30, 2019

Quintus said:
Not a good decision if true.

Yerffej said:
Seems like a good decision.

I agree!!!

Acquiescence · May 30, 2019

For at least a few years, games will ship on both the Xbox One consoles and on the new Scarlett consoles, as is typically the case during a generational transition.

A few years isn't typical of a generational transition, unless the cross-gen game situation is going to get even worse next gen.

sir_crocodile · May 30, 2019

jsnepo said:
Yikes.

If XOneS is dropped and XOneX becomes the lowest denominator, that'll be fine I guess.

That's even worse in a way. You're hobbling the new gen for a console only a small percentage of the last gen userbase even have

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