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WIRED - How PlayStation 5 Was Built (featuring Mark Cerny)
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Time to fill up the tubs boys!
Edit: omg the FFX scene
Edit edit: my two main takeaways from that -
Devs only asked for 1GB read? Wut
And the PS4 backwards compatibility - the game that was coded to framerate. I wonder if Sony customising the emulator (if we can even call it an emulator) on a game-by-game basis?
Edit: omg the FFX scene
Edit edit: my two main takeaways from that -
Devs only asked for 1GB read? Wut
And the PS4 backwards compatibility - the game that was coded to framerate. I wonder if Sony customising the emulator (if we can even call it an emulator) on a game-by-game basis?
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Quite funny to see him confirming that Tim Sweeney was the guy pushing for the SSD. It's also interesting that Tempest Audio uses a small GPU unit for its processing.
I want to know who are the devs who asked for a 16-core CPU 😆
That's for the SSD. Devs asked for 1gb/s read but Sony aimed for 5 to 10 times that.
I want to know who are the devs who asked for a 16-core CPU 😆
That's for the SSD. Devs asked for 1gb/s read but Sony aimed for 5 to 10 times that.
Would certainly explain why Microsoft went with a cheaper SSD setup.
Oh man.
Misread that.
Good thing Cerny and the team decided on much more.
Ever since that one interview Cerny did during the PS5 launch, I'm always trying to see what watch he's wearing. I forgot which one it was at the time, but it was beautiful. And expensive.
EDIT: It was the Cartier Santos-Dumont Squelette from the Washington Post article last year. Can anyone ID the watch he's wearing in this new video?
EDIT: It was the Cartier Santos-Dumont Squelette from the Washington Post article last year. Can anyone ID the watch he's wearing in this new video?
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Was probably requested in 2014 or so. Not unreasonable for the time.
Plus that's still 10-20x faster than HDD
I forget how fast tech goes. Yeah, back in 2014/15, that would've been a good speed; nowadays that's viewed as slow.
He said devs asked for "at least" 1GB/s, so it would have been the minimum.
This discussion would probably have been around 2016, and 1GB/s would have sounded amazing back then, they were dealing with 50MB/s and they asked for at least 20 times more (which would be CPU-limited on a standard architecture).
Cerny explained previously his idea of loading assets as the camera turns around, not just as the player advances. This wouldn't have worked with only 1GB/s, but with 5.5GB/s decompressed at up to 22GB/s, this becomes very much possible.
Same, but staying in the bath that long makes me super wrinkly. D:
Yeah this kind of help supplement certain things that had to be stuck in memory alone in the past. I really can't wait to see how devs take advantage. We may see the more innovative stuff from sony devs again but even with the lower limit of the 2.5gb/s still will see some cool stuff and maybe it's boosted on the PS5 if there are more ties to the loading in and out of memory with the SSD.
huh, I was under the impression that the reason for the small file sizes on PS5 was more so down to having set and highly encouraged guidelines for file management and asset storing for the sake of compression for PS5, but it is rather the other way around according to Cerny, they seem to be offering their own bespoke "invisible compression" function as he is calling that to efficiently zip the data in a way that the SSD can still read it back at speed with essentially minimal additional involvement from the developer? Of course I assume there is still a measure of guidelines there of how to properly prepare your assets so the compressed form is even smaller and more efficient, hence we see games like Subnatuica that Cerny has pointed out in the video.
Remember that these discussions were held in 2015-2016, they need to design a console to support at least 8 years of game development, you cannot just rely on current day needs but on the needs that will arise from game developers and players in the next 15 years. Obviously that would all just boil down to guesswork, but offering an SSD that is so fast and developer friendly thanks to a dedicated IO computation unit to the point that the game developer can almost forget it exists as part of the pipeline entirely (Thats theoritical and obviously mainly an aspiration) is a logical conclusion in that kind of a forward thinking hardware development.
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This (what Cerny brands as "Integrated I/O" and "Invisible Decompression" with very high performance targets) has always been the most interesting feature of the PS5's system architecture to me, as it seems to be ripe for creating new gameplay experiences with much higher levels of asset density, granular detail, and diversity not previously possible at the very high level of graphical fidelity and performance the new systems afford.
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fun fact: some involved parties actually got questionairies regarding current and future features during the final months leading up to the PS4s launch
Dude has this buttery smooth voice combined with an incredible grasp of technical knowledge and can explain complex topics in an easy-to-understand way. Some ASMR energy listening to him talk
We can only hope that the clown show will serve as a future reminder that it's possible for less to be more. Also a reminder not to underestimate Mark Cerny's decision making - dude's a certified legend. Looking forward to what developers can unlock as we go forward.
From the design to the PS5 DE...Cerny, Sony made some genius choices. And its really paying off because they are barely effected by the pandemic.
The past 2 years wrt these new consoles have been wild, lol. I think I will avoid any future next gen/console speculation threads for Sony and MS.
Whew....
I feel that my knowledge of computer science and video game development has increased exponentially after listening to Cerny
And I know nothing about both.
And I know nothing about both.
