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Wkd Box Office - 1•11-13•19 - Kevin Hart takes the domestic throne from Aquaman. Wan becomes second director to get two unrelated films over $1B.
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FF7 I assumed would be huge mostly because of Paul Walker's death, but maybe it wasn't as much of a given as I thought. Hard to compare Aquaman to the shitshow that is JL
Wan handled Paul's death really, really well in FF7. I don't know if anyone could have done that better. Like why am I crying at the end of a Fast and Furious movie?
Similarily: why the hell am I loving Aquaman so much more than Batman or Superman?
Don't get me wrong, I am a huge fan of Wan since Saw. Dude is a genius and I will watch anything he puts out. What he's done is definitely impressive, didn't mean to take away from it.
I am curious to know what the original script for FF7 was and how much had to be redone/rewritten.
If we ever get a Legion of Super-Heroes film, I know the universe will fail me and it will end up being the Heaven's Gate of comic-book film.
And the new hot genre will be biopics based on Fortnite streamers.
The ads are almost a bait and switch. I figure they were worried to present it as it really was so that's why they went with the sacerin Coles notes telling.
Heck I kind of want to see it now.
Hardcore neo conservatives to not give a single shot about disabled vets. They are care about 'the horrors of war' as a means to glorify it through 'sacrifice' as a means to accomplish manifest destiny. If you're showing someone who lost a leg in war after you had amazing sequences of brotherhood where he killed countless others and lost his comrades to save some civilians? That's good! But to just show a vet, suffering with no turnaround and a system that has forgotten him? That's bad because it's anti war and anti military industrial complex.
They don't care about soldiers as anything more than archetypes, props for their own emotional validations. The actual human suffering that they ignore afterwards (while donating a pittance in church, if that) and rallying against big government taking their 'hard earned money' (which can be used for dreaded social programs) is good enough for them to feel proud of themselves without sacrificing Jack shit.
Je suis d'accord, un des meilleurs film francais que j'ai jamais vu - difficile de depasser.
So it WAS a remake of The Untouchables, right? With Omar Sy?
I saw the trailer and was like "I've seen this shit before"
It's too bad that The Upside scored so low, because it looked like it had a chance to be good, and Bryan Cranston is great.
So disabled vets shouldn't be seen as virtuous? This tweet is trying to be biting and comes off as confused.
Had to do a double take on the list and wow, you're right.
That movie got nuked from the box office.
I started looking at the grosses for the other superhero/comic book movies, and with certain exceptions - Iron Man, Spidey, TDK - nothing was cracking that $500 million barrier.
It's still got Japan. Japan can be the wildcard considering how popular Spider-Man is over there and the marketing seems to have gone all out.
Spider-Verse has the proportional legs of a spider! So happy that it's hanging in the top 5 after five weeks
It remains to be seen(and will be quite interesting to see) how well it does. This could tell us a lot about where Spider-Man is as a character in Japan and where he's actually at.
Same Riami Spider-Mans was a consistent 60m performer.
It wasn't until that number dropped with ASM, and further still with the putrid ASM2. It dropped still with SMH.
Spider-Man
$56,226,136
Spider-Man 2
$59,587,229
Spider-Man 3
$58,320,289
The Amazing Spider-Man
$39,276,607
The Amazing Spider-Man 2
$30,253,480
Spider-Man Homecoming
$25,390,871
You could (attempt to) make the argument that the inclusion into the MCU hurt Spider-Man in Japan.
Here's what Venom did with its 'sort of but sort of not MCU' status.
Venom
$19,111,051
ASM (and to a lesser extent SM3) hurt the brand. Homecoming either stemmed the bleeding and we'll see bigger numbers with FFH, or only slowed the downward trend, and/or was dragged down OR helped by all of the MCU attachments. Quite a situation.
All of which can have an impact on Spider-verse.
Maybe the VAs gets, localization efforts, and being an animated celebration of SPIDER-MAN, could be the perfect storm that at least rekindles a shadow of the Riami era numbers in glorious Nippon.
SV manages to cover a lot of the same ideas as the Riami era and flirts with similar language and messaging to do so, what with the talk of responsibility, realizing your potential, doing what's right, as well as the weight of it all on a person. The isolation, and struggle to find happiness. These are all things that can get kind of lost, muddled, or downplayed in sprawling interconnected universes, but SV a callback to that earlier era of silo Superhero films where it was 'all on them'.
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It was originally produced by Weinstein and it sat on the shelves after the company disbanded.
Oh, right. I remembered reading that when first reviews got in, congratulating them for its big success after what happened with Solo. I was interpreting the message from a different angle.
I don't know if it will reach $400 mil., but in any case, I think it's poised to be better remembered that Solo, or any other film they've done until now.
Figures
And they had to release it when racial tensions are at an all time high for the past 20 years in the US (at least since LA anyway)
Sequel is a lock. Spider-Gwen spin-off is probably in 'maybe' status (I would assume that it's slated for after the sequel, anyway, and plans could change over such a duration especially since Gwen is likely to figure into Spiderverse 2.
Yeah spin-off is probably not going to happen. It would've had to have made like 450-500 mill WW to be able to convince the suits that spin-offs are a good idea. Anyways there's no reason why Gwen can't be in the sequel.
Aquaman 2 needs to be a team up movie of some kind. The same way Iron Man and Cap eventually got more Marvel characters in their films.
I don't think they can do another 2+ hr ocean piece and for it to be as effective visually/creatively.
Get another DC character in there like Cyborg or maybe Flash to make it a tad different. Gonna need more land drama.
I don't think they can do another 2+ hr ocean piece and for it to be as effective visually/creatively.
Get another DC character in there like Cyborg or maybe Flash to make it a tad different. Gonna need more land drama.
Looks like Bumblebee will end up doing alright. Maybe around $450m. I'm happy with that. Seems Paramount is, too.
Its the opposite of what the trailer makes you think it is.
It certainly isn't a dog having a hard but fun journey home family movie...
Well they already greenlit, but I think Sony treats such things as more as investigative/prototyping than other studios may, and shotguns the announcements as good PR. I'd still bet that A spinoff is more likely than unlikely, whatever form it takes. Sony May or may not get that cartoon off the ground, and it could also alter the landscape further.
Their internal data is probably coming up roses for Spider-verse to do well in ancillary revenues and grow with a sequel. It had a ton of competition (from Sony themselves, even) this season.
Speaking of these CG franchises, Domestic tracking for Lego2 is a smidge below the original and could go higher closer to release (there's nothing to suggest it will collapse from tracking, metric so far have been good). LEGO Batman and Ninja May have had little to no impact on the brand.
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I want Wonder Woman to fight Black Manta and have her not understanding why he's just such a fucking asshole to everybody ever
If Spider-Verse 2 shows an increase in box office then I think spin-offs are more likely to actually reach the big screen.
But as of right now, I think Spider-Verse has done just enough to warrant a direct sequel, but spin-offs are probably not going to be the immediate focus.
The legs are good but there's not many films period that spawn spin-offs and a sequel from a relatively modest $300-$320 mill take.
Nah, gotta disagree. Let the solo films be solo films. Aquaman just proved that he works in a movie all on his own, no other cameos or crossovers needed.
I this Spiderverses problem is the international markets. Like take US and Chinese gross away and you're left with somewhere around 100 million from all over the world. They need to change that of the want this to be a franchise. Lego Batman had a similar problem.
Aquaman needs to spend more time underwater
We need to see the effects of Ocean Master's actions and Arthur's new position. There are kingdoms we got to spend more time in
I feel the spin offs are a lock too given they are seeing if they can make TV spin off shows.
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