LMAORemember Max, that movie about the dog who gets PTSD because he had to watch his buddy Robbie Amell get murdered in war (which every Flash fan has done multiple times at this point)?
LMAORemember Max, that movie about the dog who gets PTSD because he had to watch his buddy Robbie Amell get murdered in war (which every Flash fan has done multiple times at this point)?
This is too goodRemember Max, that movie about the dog who gets PTSD because he had to watch his buddy Robbie Amell get murdered in war (which every Flash fan has done multiple times at this point)?
Well here's the sequel:
Let me hope tho.lol seriously?
Positive word of mouth is helping it , Globes won't do shit.
The international trailer for A Dog's Way Home is worse than the one we got locally. And by that, I mean it shows more of the film. Youtube it.
Just means the second weekend % increase is going to be massive.
Depends on the region.
DOM 55%
INT 40%
China 25%
Different studios can/have negotiated adjustments, but it's not like the old days where studios demanding nearly 100% of upfront grosses led to many theaters going under.
It's a bit of a simplification but not a bad rule of thumb.
You can look at the leaked Harry Potter budget for reference (ignore the funny money accounting that says it lost money, they're lying as per usual and the link goes into it)
It cites the revenue splits are generating a return of 162.122m DOM, 298.06m INT off of a total gross of
Domestic: $292,004,738
Foreign: $647,881,191
Worldwide: $939,885,929
Equaling our to 55.5% DOM and 46% INT.
It's not that cut and dry in practice because on top of the revenue split, some markets have high up front costs of doing buisiness and others (like China) have virtually none.
Let's take a look at Sony's estimated returns and profit back from their entire slate during the year of 2014.
Fun fact, despite having only a 25% take from gross, the expected profit margin after expenses was 21%, exactly the same as their listed INT average. You can compare that overhead against places like Japan, 47% take, only 15% margin!
This is probably a part of the reason that China tells the studios no to easing their take to international norms.
Market — Return — Actual Margin after expenses
Japan 47% 15%
South Korea 47%19%
Germany 44%22%
Spain 44%13%
Belgium 43%26%
Switzerland 42%29%
Russia 42%22%
Austria 42%27%
Italy 41%11%
Australia 41%22%
Brazil 40%13%
Netherlands 40%28%
UK 40%23%
France 39%19%
Mexico 37%13%
China 25%21%
Average 42%21%
I hope that helps.
A reminder that A Dog's Purpose made more in China than Rogue One.
Which was a crazier stat back before Star Wars died in China. Disney would be thrilled with R1 cash in China now.
The Wandering Earth has a lot of buzz, maybe it will help boost Sci-fi films in China. The genre does seem to be shifting into favor on the industry side.
Who are we kidding, Disney doesn't have a track record of good distribution/promotion in China (Gavin mentions it a lot, but he's far from the only person I've seen mention it).
StarWars is became dead as a doornail in China once TLJ bombed out due to toxic WOM. If that didn't kill StarWars in China, Space Ranger Solo sure did.
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Avatar 2 gonna be huuuuuuuge
EDIT: wait.. Avatar 2 was set under water right?
huh? i thought it's not released yet
Tracking numbers come months in advance.
Remember Max, that movie about the dog who gets PTSD because he had to watch his buddy Robbie Amell get murdered in war (which every Flash fan has done multiple times at this point)?
Well here's the sequel:
OK imma biteWho the fuck is responsible for the low-key racist tomfoolery that is Aquaman?
Who the fuck is responsible for the low-key racist tomfoolery that is Aquaman?
I thought Nepenthe is a woman 🤔
Me and my friend's unfiltered thoughts watching this.
Ah so this is a troll.Me and my friend's unfiltered thoughts watching this.
"Of course the very first black guy we see in this is an unrepetent villain..... OH LOOK THE SECOND ONE IS TOO."
"Wow, Aquaman what a hero. Just gonna leave homeboy's dad to die in this extended scene of anguish."
Next scene
"Of course the pack of racist-looking-ass rednecks are actually sweethearts."
"Is Homeboy going to have ANY defining character trait other than rage?...No? Alright."
"Wow, they literally tied some shit around his neck and pushed Homeboy off a cliff. Straight lynched his ass."
Bonus points for the fact that the trident forgers were Chinese. Even in Atlantis white folks got the Chinese laying steel too.
The framing is because I know how fragile ERA can be. But the sentiments aren't: the actual treatment of black characters (and I use the term characters lightly) in this post-Black Panther, post-Spider-Verse world was shit.
The framing is because I know how fragile ERA can be. But the sentiments aren't: the actual treatment of black characters (and I use the term characters lightly) in this post-Black Panther, post-Spider-Verse world was shit.
What does that have to do with anything? If Black Panther had an embarrassing gay stereotype of a character, LGBT people would be right to point that out.Ignoring that the lead/hero isn't a white man and neither is the director is hmm...
Just because we in "Post Black Panther/Spider-Verse" world, Black people can't be villains? And you are calling ERA fragile after saying that?The framing is because I know how fragile ERA can be. But the sentiments aren't: the actual treatment of black characters (and I use the term characters lightly) in this post-Black Panther, post-Spider-Verse world was shit.
The framing is because I know how fragile ERA can be. But the sentiments aren't: the actual treatment of black characters (and I use the term characters lightly) in this post-Black Panther, post-Spider-Verse world was shit.
I guess you missed me celebrating Killmonger the few times "Black Panther is overrated" topics have cropped up. Also--Just because we in "Post Black Panther/Spider-Verse" world, Black people can't be villains.
Yes? That doesn't actually matter.
Was he really? Flat characterization, his costume looked like the robot from Rocky 4, for some reason he had this weird stilted dialogue performance when in the suit (granted the acting overall was abysmal), and I just never believed him a credible threat. The only time I mildly liked him was when--and what the hell are you on about, Black Manta was awesome as fuck.
I'll fight this entire site and our forum hosts on this one. Aquaman ranged from mediocre to outright bad.This gonna be Thunderdome for a MOD fight?
Bronson is Master, not Blaster.
I guess you missed me celebrating Killmonger the few times "Black Panther is overrated" topics have cropped up. Also--
Prowler was also similarly amazing.
Yes? That doesn't actually matter.
Was he really? Flat characterization, his costume looked like the robot from Rocky 4, for some reason he had this weird stilted dialogue performance when in the suit (granted the acting overall was abysmal), and I just never believed him a credible threat. The only time I mildly liked him was when--
He was reformatting the Atlantean tech for the suit and almost had his head taken off. His expression when rising back up over the table was a little amusing. But then the delivery of that banal "I need a bigger helmet" line ruined it.
I stuck around for the scene. Didn't care. Unless the sequel reviews significantly better I won't be coming back. I gave it an honest chance. Should've saw Spider-Verse a third time.This wasn't Black Manta's movie though, this was about Orm. Think about it more like an intro to Aquaman's greatest enemy and one of the most badass villains of DC. He'll get further expanded on in the sequel, you did stick around for the mid-credits didn't you? He'll get his due and you will be ashamed of your words and deeds.
What does that have to do with anything? If Black Panther had an embarrassing gay stereotype of a character, LGBT people would be right to point that out.
And I'm not gonna get mad at LGBT people for pointing that out. I don't actually think that's right. Who's the character if I may ask?Black Panther legit erased the LGBTQ background of a character, though...
If Black Manta has always been like that, and they're not gonna do anything with him to make him likeable beyond his comic book ragey stylings, then I don't much care for the sequel. I went in part to see this because I actually trust James Wan as a director from The Conjuring films. Haven't seen Momoa in anything else but I will admit he's undoubtedly the best part of the whole shitshow. That also wasn't my only complaint with Black Manta's characterization.To the first line, dimishing diversity of the director and lead of a hugely successful movie to argue that a character... is the character he's always been in the comics through some mighty reaching like "a character taken out by a chain... lynching???" is wack.
Gonna be honest. Could not tell that guy was Chinese. I thought you were talking about the news guest for a second.Also ignoring that the military leader is played by a Chinese actor..
I stuck around for the scene. Didn't care. Unless the sequel reviews significantly better I won't be coming back. I gave it an honest chance. Should've saw Spider-Verse a third time.
And I'm not gonna get mad at LGBT people for pointing that out. I don't actually think that's right. Who's the character if I may ask?
If Black Manta has always been like that, and they're not gonna do anything with him to make him likeable beyond his comic book ragey stylings, then I don't much care for the sequel. I went in part to see this because I actually trust James Wan as a director from The Conjuring films. Haven't seen Momoa in anything else but I will admit he's undoubtedly the best part of the whole shitshow. That also wasn't my only complaint with Black Manta's characterization.
Gonna be honest. Could not tell that guy was Chinese. I thought you were talking about the news guest for a second.
EDIT: Further shout-out to Djimon Hounsou--
For getting fucking wrecked. His queen's tepid reaction coupled with the full body shot of his floating corpse had me dying for the rest of the film.
I'm not sure how this post follows from what I responded to. The poster I quoted specifically said that Black Manta was fucking awesome regardless of any context about the quality of representation on screen. I listed some general reasons why I didn't think he was awesome, like his acting, outfit, and one-dimensional motivations. They asked if I stuck around for the mid-credits scene; I said I did, and that it didn't do anything to give me hope that he would be redeemed in the sequel. This is a valid tangent of discussion that's separate from my charge that the racial representation was lacking in quality. I'm not conflating the two as the same argument.I get not liking the movie, but it sounds like you really didn't like the movie and are motivated reasoning the heck out of it. Especially when you conflate both of the arguments you're making.
That's a damn shame; I had no idea.
Ennnnggghhhh I don't like it.Black Manta, I get wanting deeper motivation for him. But it's not putting it lightly that his character has always been a world class hater of Aquaman.
Shallow and petty as hell? Absolutely. But the dude owns it.
Where is that from?
That was fantastic. The story tried to give him some deeper motivation about taking life from the sea or whatever, but it still ultimately boiled down to "Fuck Aquaman and everybody that love him."This is more of a comic-book comment since I haven't seen the movie yet but Black Manta is brilliant because of how the writers have committed to him being an irrational and unstoppable dickhead for such a long time. That's probably hard to translate in just one movie.
It's the same reason why the Joker is one of the few villains that works better without motivations or even an origin story. The thing about Manta's father is barely a footnote. But him being such a monumental force of nature in the DC Universe (while being powerless) aimed at Aquaman for basically no reason is what makes him so memorable. He almost drowned the entire Earth just to fuck with Aquaman last month in the comics, while the entire Legion of Doom was unsuccessfully trying to get him to chill. He gives no fucks and it's great.
Also, his helmet is dope.
I can't really comment about the rest of the complaints.
He literally says this in the movie.He's a pirate. Aquaman stops pirates.
It's not that hard to understand
Peak 2019.
Yes, who watches the Watchmen in this case? ;)It's concerning that a moderator is derailing a thread so badly with worthless nitpicks lmao