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Wkd Box Office - 2•9-11•18 - Audiences unenthusiastic about Greys' climax. Jumanji doesn't stop.
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WB greenlighting a Vixen movie or the movie making Black Panther money?
WB could make a movie if they think it'd make money. Who cares what's happening on the CW.
Your talking about a character who's last solo run was a 5 issue mini from 2008. Idk what DC can mine from her to make a full movie.
Not saying it's a good idea. But when has that stopped WB?
That article is really skewing the details if Cyborg's story to fit a narrative. I mean yes, it is tokenism and he does play the buck, but there's a ton wrong there.
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Black Panther is equally divorced from the typical superhero blockbuster as LOGAN, which at its core was another redemption story. Pretending otherwise is kind of dumb, honestly.
I don't think either went as far as The Dark Knight.
Eh, Logan had a very unusual screenplay for a comic book adaptation where character being a superhero wasn't the main focus of the story. It also benefits from the fairly weak adapted screenplay pool this year.
Black Panther is well, Marvel. It's a good movie. It extends MCU's target audience and is commendable for it. It's a huge win for minority representation and unless executives keep on acting dumb it will be a godsend for African American actors. It's hard not to see the film's positive aspects, but Oscar talk is crazy.
E: I really didn't see Logan as a redemption story, it's far more concerned with responsibility and main cast's marginalization and struggle for survival. Everything around Xavier is really well executed.
Nope. Disingenues at best, false narrative at worst.
Logan went Rated R, Logan went under 100mil production, Logan was fully a passion project by it's principles (Jackman, Stewart, Mangold).
I get it, Black Panther must be all things to all people and stand on every peak, but comparisons to a bleak R-rated swan song like Logan are completely off base and, frankly a bit pathetically desperate.
The movie character is pretty one note. And despite (I feel) like him being progressive when introduced, he's kinda backslid since then.
Or so they say until the teen titan go movie makes bank.
Nobody cares about Cyborg when he's not a team that is living in a T in Jump City with 4 friends/ teammates on a TV show that aired from 2003-06.
I like Cyborg just not by himself.
And I love that women and people of color are huge parts of both movies as opposed to being token gestures.
Phase three has been really good. Definitely mixing it up, for the better.
That would be accurate. Phase 3 has significantly outgrossed every other Marvel phase. So as of now its still growing not shrinking. All we need now is for Infinity War to topple AoU and the original Avengers and Phase 3 will be nothing short of an astounding success.
I honestly think everything is locked in good to go all the way through Avengers 4. After that though, I wonder what the overall direction will look like and how they will keep up interest. I think they will btw, its just without the overall structure in place that they've had since Avengers 1 I'm curious to see how they tackle it.
When it comes to the box office, I'm expecting them to peak with IW/A4.
Leaving the warm sunset of Wakanda, for the first snow in a week in Chicago was quite the comedown.
Jumanji. I know I wasn't alone in thinking, back in November, that Jumanji was going to really struggle to reach even half that amount. Black Panther was always going to do good numbers, especially looking at how the 3 2017 MCU films fared.
Jumanji and Black Panther are both equally impressive for different reasons.
Black Panther because that opening no one on Earth expected. For it to have a bigger opening weekend than Age of Ultron, if you were trying to sell that even 2 months ago people would have laughed in your face.
Jumanji, well because that movie easily could have been a colossal flop if everything wasn't handled as well as it was. The trailers were great, the movie itself is solid fun, and the legs have been astounding. Still though before release there was no indication it would be as big as it was
So its really like just pick whichever one you want because you can't go wrong.
Black Panther because that opening no one on Earth expected. For it to have a bigger opening weekend than Age of Ultron, if you were trying to sell that even 2 months ago people would have laughed in your face.
Jumanji, well because that movie easily could have been a colossal flop if everything wasn't handled as well as it was. The trailers were great, the movie itself is solid fun, and the legs have been astounding. Still though before release there was no indication it would be as big as it was
So its really like just pick whichever one you want because you can't go wrong.
Phase 4 will be interesting, because Phase 1 thru 3 have been built up on each other. Phase 1 was putting in the pieces with some alright to bad movies but RDJ saving the day. Phase 2 was all solid to great flicks outside of Thor 2, while it AoU was a let down. Phase 3 has basically been Curry hitting threes all day and we're coming to the conclusion of 10+ years and 20 films. So will they go with smaller Phase arcs or attempt to build another big multiple phase cycle right off the bat? The other big question is, will anyone be stepping down or not. The two biggest losses would be Evans or RDJ.
After Phase 3 is over though, that experiment is done. They'll still have the universe, but the big villain they've been hyping up for a decade is done with. Do they want to recycle it with another big villain or move on to something new.
The positive side to this is, they can introduce Xmen and other Fox properties, which I still think it will have a small bit in A4 and they'll dedicate the next phase to something like that. Let's Fox finish out their current round of films while MCU has its own thing till 2020.
After Phase 3 is over though, that experiment is done. They'll still have the universe, but the big villain they've been hyping up for a decade is done with. Do they want to recycle it with another big villain or move on to something new.
The positive side to this is, they can introduce Xmen and other Fox properties, which I still think it will have a small bit in A4 and they'll dedicate the next phase to something like that. Let's Fox finish out their current round of films while MCU has its own thing till 2020.
I think they said they are doing away with the concept of Phases, and I wonder if getting rid of the Avengers for a while will be part of that. Post Phase 3 will probably be mostly solo films with team ups (Like Civil War, Thor Ragnarok, etc.) and not a central threat. I think that's the way they might go for a few years.
Then when they decide to bring back the Avengers, if they really get all the Fox rights which looks like its happening, go with Dr DOOM. They could easily set him up as the "next Thanos" in terms of threat level.
That talk never ends.
Comic book films going the way of the Western.
Here's a question, does BP's success, and specifically how awesome the women of the film were, does Marvel replace Stark after infinity war with Riri? I think now is the perfect time.
Over time, they are bound too. Western films were popular for like 30 - 40 years before they had a pretty big decline in the 70s. So I could see in the traditional comic book sense, they'll be replaced with something else. But ever since, people will still come out for a Western in numbers and Westerns have evolved. The Revanent is a Western, Django is. Something like Bone Tomahawk is a goddamn horror movie for the most part. Comics have or will do the same. I never knew Blade was a comic book film till years after.
It's not looking all that bad now. I can't get anyone to go with me but fuck it, maybe I'll have the entire theater to myself!
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