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Wkd Box Office - 3•8-10•19 - Slayven's nightmare becomes reality, as audiences spend $153M domestic and $455M worldwide on Carol Danvers' debut.
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It's 10 years too late for a Hellboy 3. Not to mention it would be difficult to get Selma Blair to play Liz with her MS.
I'm watching the GMA video about it right now. Fuck, that's a real bummer.
I'm going to see it a second time shortly. I want those numbers to climb even higher!
Higher, further, faster, baby!
Hellboy 1 did not even make $60M the same year (and the same studio) got Spider-Man 2 to $373M.
Hellboy 2 did $75M the same year The Dark Knight made $533M, and the first Iron Man clocked in over $300M.
Lack of an audience wanting/watching comic book films was never the problem.
Sexual harassment scandal. Not sure how they got the DGA to not care, but maybe the DGA cares as much about animated films as The Academy does.
Still, you have to admit it's a different world now and it's a bit unfair to compare Spider-Man and Batman to Hellboy.
The DGA does not cover animated directors, similar to how the WGA doesn't cover animation writing.
It's a super weird situation that I've never understood.
The Hellboy movies had budgets of $66M and $85M respectively, far lower than any of the films you compared against.
I'm not saying the IP is as strong as Spidey or Bats, which is kinda the point. It's an IP the audience doesn't care about for whatever reason (maybe it's the non-human lead, maybe it's puritanical leftovers fearing something with "hell" in the title, maybe dudes feel like their dicks are small compared to Hellboy, I don't know). I don't think a Hellboy 3 would do massively better, I'm not even sure how much better the og Hellboy would do even if it was released on the back of GDT's Oscar win.
Sure, again, not the point. Which was that there definitely was an audience for comic book films both in 2004 and 2008, and I don't consider it the main reason for the films flopping.
Well, that sounds about right considering how America treats animation... looks at the fate of Ruben Brandt, Collector... you absolute bastards.
Neither Hellboy movie flopped, though; the first one was successful enough critically and financially to get a sequel, and the second one was successful enough critically and financially that it could have had another sequel but the pieces and the players never lined up. The worst thing you could say about Golden Army's box office is that it released a week before The Dark Knight which eradicated any chance of it having legs.
The first Hellboy didn't even make $100M worldwide on a $66M budget. That's a flop. Sony bailed on the franchise.
Universal's turn garnered $160M worldwide on an $85M budget. Which sure, you can argue is a disappointment rather than a flop but at this point we're arguing semantics and not whether or not the film made money (it didn't). Universal bailed on the franchise.
So now we have Lionsgate and yeah. things are not looking great for it either.
I misunderstood.
Mid-50% hold is really good. Not quite Wonder Woman's 43%, but CM's much bigger OW makes that kind of irrelevant.
Wonder Woman had great longevity at the box office. 4x multiplier off $100m opening. That is damn good.
Great seeing Captain Marvel continue to do great. $215m+ domestic and $594m+ worldwide already.
Looking good for another possible billion $ for Disney / Marvel.
Looking good for another possible billion $ for Disney / Marvel.
Second only got it after Del Toro hit with Pan's Lab, letting Universal think it would have a bigger push now. Neither made back its dosh in theater. Its a two time loser, they be flops.
Hellboy was on cable last night. It was worse than I remember it. Supporting cast is pretty terrible
I think Cappy Marvel definitely has 3x in it, but it's got a lot of competition coming up. ~$450m in the US is about where I think it'll finish.
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I remember not loving the first one when it came out but enjoying the second a lot more than most seemed to. Always wanted a third with del toro and that cast because of that perceived momentum.
If she made more than Black Panther, I would get a Barry Allen face tattoo
I am retiring my Carol Agenda, it is no longer pure. I am dusting off my barry allen, hal jordan, and Hawkpeople agendas
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Slayven stop putting the knife in yourself then slowly twisting it.
I don't know what you get out of this but it's not worth it.
I feel Carol is likely to sneak past Arthur and Steve's last 'solo' movie, but I don't think she'll get past T'Challa. She might get neck and neck with Tony's third movie.
Wonder Woman got really lucky because it essentially had the entire summer to clean house. That box office run was a blast to follow.
I'm so happy it showed that a female led cape flick can do huge numbers.
It also got lucky that her Competition ended up all being critical disappointments.
Why watch those when you could watch an awesome Wonder Woman film lol
Those were fun threads seeing her kick butt at the box office week after week
Interestingly, Miss Marvel is wayyyy more liked than carol in those circles
Never seen anything quite like the way YouTube specifically latched onto the extreme hatred towards Brie / CM
The hilarious thing though is the box office is crushing, further proving these people are their own very insular group the larger world doesnt agree with
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