That's what it looks like from the trailers, but after watching and reading reviews on it, everyone seems to be really high on it, calling it the best comedy to come out in years. I'll watch it on one of my days off then.
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Wkd Box Office - 5•24-26•19 - Disney uses first wish for Aladdin to beat Solo. GO SEE BOOKSMART. No, Endgame will not pass Avatar this week.
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That's what it looks like from the trailers, but after watching and reading reviews on it, everyone seems to be really high on it, calling it the best comedy to come out in years. I'll watch it on one of my days off then.
I don't think there would be a consensus. It would be mostly posters trolling recent Marvel/DC movies, and ignoring much more obvious trash like Catwoman, Supergirl, Superman 4, The Spirit, Ghost Rider 1&2, or Elektra. People's memory for this stuff only stretches back like 5-10 years.
"Y'all gonna watch it anyway"
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FF is the only franchise that had not one, but two movies produced (one released as per the newer contract) just to keep the licensing rights.
Right, i propose a couple posts down limiting it to films at or below a specific RT score.
Thread: "What's the crappiest game?"
Posters: "Oh, oh, oh , I know! It's The Witcher 3 and The Last of Us and Breath of the Wild and RDR and..."
Dark Phoenix is set to make Fant4stic's domestic take in its opening weekend, or at least the first 4 days.
Also China still wants Dark Phoenix.
Nobody wanted Fant4stic.
Dark Phoenix is opening at at least $40m domestically so I wouldn't bet on that.
I'm betting that predicted number drops lower and lower as we get closer to the release date, just like Fant4stic.
Imagine if Aladdin actually was good. It just lacks the magic and character of the original by quite some. It's not terrible it's just lacking.
I think that could work, but you would have to set the threshold RT score pretty low. Like 30% RT or less.
My local AMC is doing a lot of splits with the IMAX/Dolby theaters this summer, this week Aladdin is in Dolby during the day and last two showings are Brightburn in Dolby (both play in regular screens of course). So figured I might as well escape some relatives and use my A-List to check out Brightburn.
Really enjoyed it, nothing really spectacular or new but it was well executed, short, and I felt like every character's actions made sense. It did feel a bit more like a horror movie than anything else, although pretty low key horror only 4-5 mildly scary scenes. The kid actor was fantastic, he is creepy as hell and I would legit run away if I saw him. Its really well shot and vfx'd for a $6m budget movie, hope it makes it back easily. Would love to see a big budget movie of the same idea from someone like DC.
Rest of the cast is great too, Elizabeth Banks is fantastic as the mom and the dad is played by the first warehouse office boyfriend of Pam from the Office. Badger from Breaking Bad is also in it in a minor part.
Really enjoyed it, nothing really spectacular or new but it was well executed, short, and I felt like every character's actions made sense. It did feel a bit more like a horror movie than anything else, although pretty low key horror only 4-5 mildly scary scenes. The kid actor was fantastic, he is creepy as hell and I would legit run away if I saw him. Its really well shot and vfx'd for a $6m budget movie, hope it makes it back easily. Would love to see a big budget movie of the same idea from someone like DC.
Rest of the cast is great too, Elizabeth Banks is fantastic as the mom and the dad is played by the first warehouse office boyfriend of Pam from the Office. Badger from Breaking Bad is also in it in a minor part.
I'm from Canada and not the US, but yes, there is always a bollywood film or two playing at any given time here. And an Chinese or Filipino movie occasionally too.
It's weird to me how John Wick still isn't really cracking the overseas market. They still have a heavy domestic split. There are several markets where it should be performing much better than it is, especially UK. I also think it could potentially play well in South Korea, where revenge thrillers like The Man From Nowhere are pretty popular. What's the deal? Garbage distributors?
Smaller budget movies I'd imagine normally focus on domestic. Profit take is much higher compared to overseas.
Kinda why I think people blow overseas numbers out of proportions. China must be a drastically low profit take .
Edit - Studios only get 25% of profit from China ticket sales ....that's insanely low compared to other markets especially NA.
Why I can't take China numbers that serious when people want to brag about them because so and so movie did gangbusters.
Kinda why I think people blow overseas numbers out of proportions. China must be a drastically low profit take .
Edit - Studios only get 25% of profit from China ticket sales ....that's insanely low compared to other markets especially NA.
Why I can't take China numbers that serious when people want to brag about them because so and so movie did gangbusters.
I had already played the warehouse scene a hundred times in the Arkham games before seeing Batman v Superman though.
Yeah, fair enough. At least it was something for that awful movie though.
JW's action is godlike but I dont care about its lore, all that secret assassin society nonesense.
China and Korean have several action movies with local stars come out every year. They may not be good as JW, but people not exactly crave for more. Just like Crazy Rich Asian flopped so hard in China because nobody cares.
China and Korean have several action movies with local stars come out every year. They may not be good as JW, but people not exactly crave for more. Just like Crazy Rich Asian flopped so hard in China because nobody cares.
Just dropping in to say that Zatt's pure denial of Endgame falling short of Avatar is making this thread an amazingly entertain read. Thank you.
The problem is when would have been a better time? Disney has so many huge tentpole releases now that it's basically a matter of picking your poison. That goes for both Pikachu and Shazam. If it's not close to Captain Marvel or Endgame, it's close to Aladdin, or Toy Story, or Spider-Man. It's hard to compete with Disney, but WB still has to try. 2 weeks after the last major release with no other major films opening at the same time is honestly the best you could hope for nowadays in the summer season.
I think the interest for Pikachu just wasn't as high as some might have expected/hoped. The movie itself also having a mixed reception didn't help when this month (and summer) is stacked with high quality releases.
The problem is when would have been a better time? Disney has so many huge tentpole releases now that it's basically a matter of picking your poison. That goes for both Pikachu and Shazam. If it's not close to Captain Marvel or Endgame, it's close to Aladdin, or Toy Story, or Spider-Man. It's hard to compete with Disney, but WB still has to try. 2 weeks after the last major release with no other major films opening at the same time is honestly the best you could hope for nowadays in the summer season.
I think the interest for Pikachu just wasn't as high as some might have expected/hoped. The movie itself also having a mixed reception didn't help when this month (and summer) is stacked with high quality releases.
Watching the third film, which I did enjoy, I couldn't help thinking that this will ultimately be the death of the franchise.
You could feel the film creeking everytime they got into that stuff in Parabellum.
IIRC the studio take of revenue is about:
55% domestic
45% foreign
25% China
Not sure what you mean by overblowing overseas numbers, since we usually just talk about revenue here, but China is still a extremely important market for blockbusters. I can see why distributors might not bother with something like John Wick though if foreign audiences prefer local movies with local stars for their low-mid budget action films.
Don't really understand this line of thinking. That stuff -is- the franchise. And has been since the first movie. The action is top notch but Keanu is otherwise just playing a generic action man. The weird assassin society mythology is what props up the skeleton of the movies to allow the action to play out.
Those are huge differences.
Let's look at a big money maker like Endgame.
That means it gets a profit of 440 so far domestic (off of 800m)
570 foreign (off of 1.27 billion)
150 China (off of 610 million)
I can guarantee when people are talking revenue on here a lot don't realize these discrepancie on actual profit .
I watched Booksmart today and I agree that people need to see it. The movie was so good probably one of my favorite movies of the year so far.
Everyone realizes this. We just don't really discuss it because box office discussion is centered on revenue. The only time we really talk about profit is when we're discussing the likelihood of a movie getting a sequel or when end-of-year lists of highest RoI charts get posted.
$150m from China is still far more than any other market except the US. It's more than Europe's top 6 markets (UK, France, Germany, Russia, Italy, and Spain) combined. It matters for Disney, and anyone else making big blockbusters.
PhoncipleBone where we standing big guy?
Endgame at the end of its rope or we gonna watch this thing burn some more? I need tears from someone.
Endgame at the end of its rope or we gonna watch this thing burn some more? I need tears from someone.
A mythology like this one is more effective when it is barely hinted at and stays in the background. When you delve into it too much you lose the mystery, which is its biggest appeal. That's why I thought 2 was a big step down from 1. Haven't seen 3 yet.
When they just hint around the edges it's cool, mysterious and compelling
When they start getting into "how this all actually works" is where the trouble begins.
It will be interesting to see the numbers after Monday in the US. Do we expect 5 or 6 million more for Endgame ? So we will be close to 2.7 B worldwide. I said I was expecting to happen this week. It will be close.
It's going to be longer as well to reach 2.8 B. Maybe in enf of July or early August ?
It's going to be longer as well to reach 2.8 B. Maybe in enf of July or early August ?
Source: https://deadline.com/2019/05/aladdi...a-global-international-box-office-1202622439/
My 2 cents: once June gets here, we are going to start seeing some pretty spectacular holds for Endgame, with schools starting to go out. Some will claim some non-sense about how Disney is buying their own tickets like it was said about Captain Marvel. It will get there in some time between end of June, beginning of July. I don't think that it will need an expansion or re-release, but I am starting to believe that will happen regardless.
Considering Disney's current slate for 2019 , when do you think they will re-release Endgame in theaters?
I'd argue that Endgame getting a re-release is becoming too much of a talking point among the trades, and that leads me to think there is a smoke to the fire. So I have two possible outcome scenarios happening for this:
The Lion King is July 19, and then there is this big hole in their calendar that is August, with films like these scheduled: The Art of Dancing in the Rain (August 9), Ready or Not (August 23), Ad Astra (September 20), The Woman in the Window (October 4). Then there is Maleficent 2 in October 18 and Frozen 2 in November 22.
So what I think it will happen:
Scenario A:
A rexpansion on the domestic market. Just something to go for the film's last legs. I could see "Ready or Not" pushed to next year (horror tinged release, not an usual Disney thing), The Art of Dancing in the Rain moved to that slot and a mild expansion just for the final leg of Endgame. I think something like this happening is the most likely scenario.
Scenario B:
An actual re-release, a special edition of Endgame. While this is unlikely, I wouldn't complete discard the possibility. If there is footage and they have one last surprise under their sleeve, it could happen.
A re-release will happen either way imho by 2020's Oscar season, but I fully expect Endgame to have already topped Avatar by then.
I disagree, but I think Fan4stic was better than Suicide Squad. Fuck that movie in its entirety. At least F4 had a somewhat interesting 1st act (that ultimately fell flat on its stupid face in the 2nd act and had a hilariously awful 3rd).
Are we talking in recent memory?
Because... Catwoman.
And Suicide Squad is way worse than JL anyway.
Never saw Fant4stic, as a fan of the comics it would have broken my heart.
Suicide Squad was indeed bad but managed to be a fun watch anyway. Reading about how it was reshot to completely change its plot, I'm surprised it was watchable at all.
I find BvS an enjoyable movie if you can accept the premise of the world it's set in. I never had any problem with Luthor's scheme or "Martha." my issue was pacing and trying to stuff way too much into it, and the lame 3rd act fight.
I don't even think it's the clear choice for the worst comic flick of 2017.
Ghost in the Shell
Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets
Kingsman: The Golden Circle
Speaking of Valerian, I still cringe sometimes when I think about how big of a bomb that movie was. Almost John Carter level bomb, but it was an independent production without the financial backing of a huge corporation like Disney. Ouch.
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Still gonna be close. But the odds of Endgame passing Avatar keep falling each week.
The Russo Brothers are still clearly promoting their latest indie flick about loss:
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