Yep. The real best Spider-Man movie, Spider-man 3.
Yep. The real best Spider-Man movie, Spider-man 3.
Exactly
Better made? I'm not sure. More entertaining? Definitely.
Word yoI have seen a lot of bad posts in my time, but "Endgame shouldn't be compared to any other movie because it is special" has to be on the most absurd arguments I have ever heard. Not only that, but it was posted in a thread where the entire aim to analysis and compare movies' box office numbers. It'd be like walking into a NPD thread and saying, "You know we really can't compare game Y to other games because it is special." If you have an issue with data and analysis about movies, this thread isn't the place for you, full stop.
Yeah, I was more enterainted by it in comparsion to some MCU films.Finally caught Cap Marvel, thought it was quite mediocre.
Really liked Larson and Mendelsohn in their roles, and thought the material involving the latter took turns I didn't expect, but the action and humor fell flat at every turn, and Goober Fury was really embarrassing to watch
Better made? I'm not sure. More entertaining? Definitely.
Same but a lot of people here think "it's great" imo it's C tier of the MCU.Finally caught Cap Marvel, thought it was quite mediocre.
Really liked Larson and Mendelsohn in their roles, and thought the material involving the latter took turns I didn't expect, but the action and humor fell flat at every turn, and Goober Fury was really embarrassing to watch
Better made? I'm not sure. More entertaining? Definitely.
I think it's great too!
I'm glad we're all in agreement
Lmfaoo ok ok good one
Next film to take down Avatar.
$500m opening week
I'd wait until we hear the songs before we get hyped. There's a high chance that they aren't as good as the original or dare I say it, are actually bad.
NahI'd wait until we hear the songs before we get hyped. There's a high chance that they aren't as good as the original or dare I say it, are actually bad.
I have and they all sound ok-good but they've also shown us very little so i'm a bit apprehensive.
The soundtrack only needs one Beyonce song to give the film eternal legs.I'd wait until we hear the songs before we get hyped. There's a high chance that they aren't as good as the original or dare I say it, are actually bad.
Cross posting from the other thread:
So since some people want analysis of legs, I updated the chart for the biggest opening weekends ever to see how the legs on Endgame compare domestically. Sadly, Toy Story 4 didnt hit the $150m threshold to get added. There is always Lion King.
6th worst multiplier. But hey, Civil War keeps its crown of worst MCU legs! And Endgame gonna scratch by Iron Man 3 if it ends at 842m.
2nd worst average weekend drop.
4th worst average weekly drop.
Truly historic "run" at the box office. It is really riding on the back of that monstrous opening weekend. After that it started performing below average for a giant opening.
Still a great achievement in the end.
When it starts higher of course it will pull in more on similar drops. The point of it is comparing what percentage the films drop week to week compared to others that opened big.If you look at raw dollars, it's still making more in the subsequent weeks than most of that list.
Thank you."Bad legs" is an unfair oversimplification of the charts Phoney posted, which mostly shows that a fair degree of front-loading is inevitable with that opening weekend and that the legs aren't anything special when compared to other follow-up entries in that list (see: Catching Fire vs. Hunger Games, Dark Knight vs Dark Knight Rises, etc).
That's all there is to it. Claiming Phoney is "trolling" or "removing context" or questioning motives is kind of missing the point
If you look at raw dollars, it's still making more in the subsequent weeks than most of that list.
I'm not moving goalposts, I'm merely reacting to the line " It is really riding on the back of that monstrous opening weekend."
It had the second-highest second weekend too. It's top 5 for 3rd and fourth weekends.
So while it had a bigger percentage dropoff than most of that list, it was also still making a shitton of money in weeks 2, 3 and 4.
It's the fifth and sixth weekend where it really plummets in the rankings.
I'm not a huge Endgame* stan but I find all the talk of "bad legs" pretty weird. It's sorta using its strength (huge opening weekend) against it. It's the second-highest grossing movie of all time, it just made more of that money early than most movies do.
* Not in my top 5 MCU movies, nowhere near the best comic book movie, and I'm on record as saying comic book movies have yet to reach "great cinema" levels.
"Bad legs" is an unfair oversimplification of the charts Phoney posted, which mostly shows that a fair degree of front-loading is inevitable with that opening weekend and that the legs aren't anything special when compared to other follow-up entries in that list (see: Catching Fire vs. Hunger Games, Dark Knight vs Dark Knight Rises, etc).
That's all there is to it. Claiming Phoney is "trolling" or "removing context" or questioning motives is kind of missing the point
He Lives in You?!?! Holy shit.
I kinda disagree, having a Dom OW 38% larger than the previous record holder is quite special (plus the crazy WW one), and how fast it got to certain numbers is too (for now at least). And even if it didn't beat TFA Dom or Avatar WW, the fact that it got so close when most were expecting somewhere around IW numbers is quite commendable on it's own.And Endgame isn't special, which is exactly what the comparison shows.
"It just made more money earlier" which means it didn't have the legs of others. That is the point of comparison.
I'm confused by the confusion.
The Force Awakens finished its run at about $950 million domestic. Endgame is looking to wrap up around $100 million domestic. So if we want to look at raw numbers, there's a potential $100 million worth of audiences that it failed to attract over its run, no matter how many saw it opening weekend.
I kinda disagree, having a Dom OW 38% larger than the previous record holder is quite special (plus the crazy WW one), and how fast it got to certain numbers is too (for now at least). And even if it didn't beat TFA Dom or Avatar WW, the fact that it got so close when most were expecting somewhere around IW numbers is quite commendable on it's own.
I'm confused by the confusion.
The Force Awakens finished its run at about $950 million domestic. Endgame is looking to wrap up around $100 million domestic. So if we want to look at raw numbers, there's a potential $100 million worth of audiences that it failed to attract over its run, no matter how many saw it opening weekend.
This is more where I am coming from. It's why TFA's domestic record matters. It was crazy.
Interesting because for 2018 and 2019 Avengers just barely misses being included.This chart is going to be interesting to look at going forward.
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/seasonal/?chart=byseason&season=Summer&view=releasedate
We could potentially be looking at one of the lowest grossing summers at the BO in 20 years.
Amazing Spider-Man 2?
Goes both ways really.Interesting because for 2018 and 2019 Avengers just barely misses being included.
Leg wise, Endgame is the worst performing Avenger movie and that is definitely attributed to the fact that it had a huge opening weekend. Stating that it made more money than the movies on the list is irrelevant when discussing legs aka performance. Endgame did not perform as good as the majority of the list.
That's what legs are, performance, percentages. I don't get why this is being brought now as if it's a new revelation to tracking box office.
So the percentages are inaccurate and or false? Ask any box office outlet or person who's career is in box office and see what they tell you. I'm stating facts based on what's available to us on websites that track the box office but yet you're telling me it's not true.This simply is not true, as we can track relative performance in relation to the size of the opening. To put everything in a vacuum is innacurate at best and disingenuous at worst. Please don't be needlessly reductive by omission. It creates an inaccurate perception.
So the percentages are inaccurate and or false? Ask any box office outlet or person who's career is in box office and see what they tell you. I'm stating facts based on what's available to us on websites that track the box office but yet you're telling me it's not true.
I feel like every BO thread here, every weekend it's something new.
It does seem a bit disingenuous to label Endgame's legs are either good or bad since we don't really have anything to compare it with. Right now the numbers are the numbers and until we have another film open with a $350M OW it's just kind of there on its own.You're on some Fallacious Ben Shapiro 'facts don't care about your feelings' kick while excluding or rather omitting/dismissing details relevant to the situation. You can absolutely state it's OWX in a vacuum, you're just painting a misleading picture by leaving it at that.
Are you denying the trend of higher openers having shorter legs?
Or rather, being so ardent to that point.
You're on some Fallacious Ben Shapiro 'facts don't care about your feelings' kick while excluding or rather omitting/dismissing details relevant to the situation. You can absolutely state it's OWX in a vacuum, you're just painting a misleading picture by leaving it at that.
Are you denying the observable trend of higher openers tending at having shorter legs?
Or rather, being so ardent to that point.