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El Bombastico

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audiences are ruining cinema by refusing to pay to see anything that isn't a VFX-heavy spectacle.

Godzilla and Dark Phoenix, both VFX spectacle movies, just bombed and bombed hard.

Its more like audiences are refusing to see anything that can't get a decent score on Rotten Tomatoes, which contrary to what some people will tell you is NOT that hard.
 
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OrangeAtlas

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Random Saturday thought: what's the longest it ever took for a numbered sequel? I don't mean something like Blade Runner 2049, I mean like a 2/3/4/etc.

Incredibles 2 was 15 years. I guess we can count Dumb and Dumber To, that was 20 years.
 
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Random Saturday thought: what's the longest it ever took for a numbered sequel? I don't mean something like Blade Runner 2049, I mean like a 2/3/4/etc.

Incredibles 2 was 15 years. I guess we can count Dumb and Dumber To, that was 20 years.

One of the Disney sequels maybe? Some of these are like 60 years apart. If Fantasia 2000 doesn't count, than Bambi II?
 
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One of the Disney sequels maybe? Some of these are like 60 years apart. If Fantasia 2000 doesn't count, than Bambi II?

Ah you're right, I was thinking more theatrically but I guess technically Disney's DTV nonsense would take it. Question still remains what the biggest theatrical one is.

Star Wars episode VI to VII was 30+ years!

I thought of that but TECHNICALLY if we're going by my arbitrary ruling the Episode numbers aren't in the official titles, just on the title cards.
 

Busaiku

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Random Saturday thought: what's the longest it ever took for a numbered sequel? I don't mean something like Blade Runner 2049, I mean like a 2/3/4/etc.

Incredibles 2 was 15 years. I guess we can count Dumb and Dumber To, that was 20 years.
Why wouldn't Blade Runner 2049 count, but Dumb & Dumber To would?
 

NinjaScooter

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Basic Instinct 2 came out 14 years after the original. That's not the record or anything, I just wanted to remind everyone that there was a Basic Instinct 2. And it had the subtitle "Risk Addiction".
 

Anth0ny

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Anyone else think the Raptors championship could cause a $50m+ boost for Avengers Endgame in Canada this weekend?

I'm thinking it's all but guaranteed tbh
 

ElBoxy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Blade Runner 2049? The action movie where Ryan Gosling and Harrison Ford team up to defeat Jared Leto from taking over the world with robots?
 

Tace

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I just wished they had budgeted the film better or made it shorter. Maybe we could have gotten a sequel. Blade Runner 2049 was fantastic. The movie flew by for me.
 

Border

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Random Saturday thought: what's the longest it ever took for a numbered sequel? I don't mean something like Blade Runner 2049, I mean like a 2/3/4/etc.
If you are requiring that both the original film and the sequel were theatrically released, the answer would probably be:

The Odd Couple (1968)
The Odd Couple 2 (1998)

The best part about it is that The Odd Couple 2 is a sequel in the truest possible sense (same actors, same writer). It's not like Return to Oz or Mary Poppins Returns where the creative team is completely different. The movie itself is apparently quite bad despite the fact that Neil Simon wrote it.
 

hodayathink

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Godzilla and Dark Phoenix, both VFX spectacle movies, just bombed and bombed hard.

Its more like audiences are refusing to see anything that can't get a decent score on Rotten Tomatoes, which contrary to what some people will tell you is NOT that hard.

Then explain audiences not showing up to the movies that are getting good reviews on RT (that isn't a blockbuster).
 

El Bombastico

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Then explain audiences not showing up to the movies that are getting good reviews on RT (that isn't a blockbuster).

Sadly, good reviews can't help a movie with limited marketing or limited mass market appeal. People just aren't going to the movies anymore for non-blockbusters unless the movie gets insanely good WoM like Get Out.
 

caliph95

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Oct 25, 2017
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People only really go to blockbusters or the big kids or family movies RT just helps them pick out of those
 

Sweeney Swift

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Then explain audiences not showing up to the movies that are getting good reviews on RT (that isn't a blockbuster).

Booksmart wasn't in a theater near me for longer than a weekend

Last Black Man In SF wasn't even in one near me, period

I want to see more great films. I just don't live in NY or CHI or a city like that (yet) where limited releases almost always end up
 

hodayathink

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Sadly, good reviews can't help a movie with limited marketing or limited mass market appeal. People just aren't going to the movies anymore for non-blockbusters unless the movie gets insanely good WoM like Get Out.

Which is kind of the point. People like to complain about "Hollywood doesn't make these types of movies anymore" about a bunch of different genres, but the truth is that they don't make them anymore because people stopped going to see them and the only way they make sense is for indie companies to do with either lesser known actors or with everyone taking backend deals to keep the production costs down. Streaming has basically saved the mid-budget movie, but who knows how long this boom of everyone needing content is gonna last.
 

TRUE ORDER

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Oct 30, 2017
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Kinda bummed to see Gozdilla and Dark Phoenix's results...

I wanted to go and watch Ma but it has taken out after like a week or so.
 

OfficerRob

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Oct 25, 2017
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Top Gun, 1986
Top Gun: Maverick, 2020

Technically not numbered, but it stars the same fucking guy in the lead role
 

Gentlemen

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Oct 25, 2017
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Godzilla and Dark Phoenix, both VFX spectacle movies, just bombed and bombed hard.

Its more like audiences are refusing to see anything that can't get a decent score on Rotten Tomatoes, which contrary to what some people will tell you is NOT that hard.
I didn't say audiences were off to see every VFX-heavy spectacle.
But they refuse to see movies that aren't, regardless of their RT percentages.
 

TheXbox

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Oct 29, 2017
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Release good movies. Jesus Christ. Everything deserves to bomb. Lord Pikachu failed me and Disney will inherit the Earth. Fuck's sake.
 

caliph95

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caliph95

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Is Us a vfx heavy? Because it is fairly big.
Us benefit from Get out and it's only really profitable because it's cheap movie that's how a lot of horror movies make money even when their box office isn't high.

It's box office isn't even close to blockbusters numbers it's beaten by Godzilla kotm and people are calling that a bomba

Also exceptions exists
 
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