We should make a bingo card of all the different ways people are going to interpret TROS' performance.
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True. Although if it makes more than TLJ, the second argument doesn't really hold up at all. From a non-biased party, if TROS does underperform than it certainly will not be good for Star Wars as a franchise since we would have seen a downward trend in the main series and spin-offs.
I had this thought too, looking at the MIB review thread. For all the handwringing about Disney monopolizing and steamrolling the industry, we're a month and a half into summer blockbuster season, with a handful of the biggest summer titles already out and Endgame is still by far the best received. And the second best (not counting JW3 as a typical blockbuster) is like Aladdin, unless you counted Rocketman as a blockbuster (which, as a musician biopic, I wouldn't think of it as one imo). Godzilla, Dark Phoenix, MIB, SLOP 2... all big name, non-Disney franchises that are just way underperforming with critics and audiences.
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Exactly. It's less that Disney is eliminating the competition and more that the competition is eliminating themselves by doing such a terrible job with their stuff.
So you're saying that it would better for everyone if Endgame did get a big boost from Spider-Man, to keep the TLJ talk at bay a little longer?
Endgame getting 10 billion from a re-release would be worth never having drive-by nonsense TLJ takes ever again.
Wasn't there a poll on this very site showing that more than 40% of users were between dislike and hated it?
Found it:
More than 1600 votes, with the "liked" eeking a win with 51.6%
Saying the movie was highly divisive, and even that probably nearly half the fanbase didn't like it/hated it isn't that big of a stretch really.
Hundreds of people on this site also believed that Detective Pikachu would outgross Toy Story 4:
More people voted in that thread than the TLJ one.
We are not a very representative group.
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Yes it is a big stretch. 1600 ERA votes isn't representative of the general SW fanbase.
For what it's worth, La La Land was a wide release in December. The only reason you'd find an August date for it is due to film festivals.
This is the same website that gave MGS4 GOTY twice so I wouldn't trust any polls around here.
It means the SW trilogy cycle for box office is broken at last.
Era is a horrible way to base a wider audience reaction. We are demographically not very representative of the Star Wars fanbase
There are dozens of articles (even a mathematical regression on exactly how divisive is out there I believe) about how divisive the movie was in spite of the great critical reception, but we're getting back in the circle jerk again... I guess some of you guys and gals will just never admit to it eh?
This is incredible. You hit pretty much every talking point thrown at TLJ. You'd never lose with this card.I raise you my bingo card
I raise you my bingo card
Where is the "Now THIS is podracing" square?
This is me. Super worried about it. Either way, Rise of Skywalker will make more TLJ. Bookmark it.
At least they kept the budget in check.
Welp. Victim #4 of the Summer Bomba Sequel Blockbuster famine incoming. (It helps that the current Tomatometer can't even beat 2002's MIB 2, the previous low for the series...)
Meanwhile, Shaft 2019 is about to release in two days, but there's no reviews for that one out either. Gonna be a pretty disheartening weekend if both major releases directed by African-Americans (F. Gary Gray for MIB: Int., Tim Story for Shaft) are critical and commercial disappointments...
That's true, but they're at a point where their other films (if not just one/two films alone) can collectively gross billions of dollars each year now to stave off those losses. Almost none of the other major studios have that much clout to release one or two major bombs and still come out heavily profitable for the rest of the year. To say nothing that about constant on-and-off urges of Paramount's parent Viacom re-merging with CBS, or Sony's film division doing poorly enough that talk of a potential sale were going around a few years back.
The sooner we as a society can accept that Star Trek > Star Wars, the sooner we can get away from arguing about TLJ and start arguing about true kino like Star Trek V: The Final Frontier.
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I'm just kind of dumbfounded why they still keep making them.
You and me both.
And while Artemis Fowl was pushed back to 2020, we're probably still getting at least one major bomb this year anyway (the Maleficent sequel).
Yikes! I was expecting it to underperform, but I wasn't expecting anything this bad.
Sony better be thanking their stars Marvel Studios' FFH is a few weeks after this.
You think it's gonna crash and burn like Alice Through the Looking Glass?
The last great Star Trek film (Star Trek anything really, but I'll be polite and just narrow it down to film) was Undiscovered Country
How about you provide actual evidence to your claims and not point to 1600 ERA votes as an equivalence to the SW fandom being highly divided over TLJ.
We digging up and reanimating our year old takes now that endgame is concluding
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