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Wkd Box Office - 8•9-11•19 - DC can't stand the heat, leaves the Kitchen. Dora explores fresh territory. Del Toro asks are you afraid of the dark?
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Well, Sony in the late 00's was desperate and hilariously kept floating largely due to Sony Pictures, so selling the merchandise rights was more telling of their financial health and management of the time. Yoshida, when he was CFO, said that was a dumb idea and regrettable decision Sony made.
At this point, Sony's Universe of Marvel Characters is a huge anchor for both its film and TV studio. I don't think with the turn around of Sony Pictures under Rothman and Vinciquerra, that they would prohibit the rights to Spider-Man from transferring in a sale. I could be wrong though, who knows.
The video game stuff has nothing to do with movie side of things and it has been debunked many times and someone from insomniac had also clarified that they were offered to do any character from the Marvel universe and they chose Spider-Man. I am sure Sony and marvel games already signed a multi-game deal for Spider-Man because when the first one was announced in 2016, the head of marvel games said that the future of standalone Spider-Man console games is with Sony and insomniac.
With regards to the rest of your post I doubt a scenario like Sony pictures being sold would be discussed or even brought up in these sort of negotiations.
True on management being different.
I'm still not convinced yet that Sony doesn't crash and burn it's live action plans, even if the tv division is better. Which is really what's going to determine how valuable those other characters rights are. But I digress.
Still think there is a partial case Marvel could make to how much they've helped get the Spider-Man license back on it's feet and that they'll try to pursue that route to eliminate the clause. But I could be wrong. Rothman could try to avoid that.
I watched the Dora the Explorer film today.
Surprisingly better than you would expect it to be. Queen of the Jungle an easy recommendation over the King of the Jungle. Film needed more Swiper though.
Surprisingly better than you would expect it to be. Queen of the Jungle an easy recommendation over the King of the Jungle. Film needed more Swiper though.
I lost it when Danny Trejo, Machete himself, started voicing Boots.
Didn't realize both Jamie Foxx and Sly Stallone's kids are making their debut in 47 Meters Down 2.
Sony could always use Kingpin without Marvel's permission. And Marvel can use Kingpin without Sony's permission (in Daredevil). Peter Porker, though, Marvel/Disney had to approve.
I do agree with your overall point that Disney would definitely want to change section 23 of the amended contract in 2015, however, given what's publicly known I am not sure Disney/Marvel really got much out of that deal.
Sony does not have the scale or content to compete in the movie and streaming business. If they didn't have MCU's partnership this year they would be down in the single digits with the peons of Fox and Paramount. Plus assets are like stocks in a sense, you wanna sell high and buy low. Not saying Sony is gonna do it, but they need to acquire and grow or divest and focus on their other areas, such as as games.
Oh Kingpin was available to be used by both sides? I thought he was under Daredevil's rights.
I need to remember that then.
You forgot to tag OrangeAtlas when talking Pikachu
So what's the avatar bet on Detective Pikachu vs Angry Birds 2 being the highest rated video game movie?
I agree with the streaming aspect, which is why they're staying away from it and sold out of Crackle.
But film production, remove FFH and they'd still be on pace to crack $1bn domestically and maintain double digits market share also if they didn't have the MCU they'd have a Spider-Man film which let's assume doesn't make more than TASM2 but still a good haul.
But I do agree, Sony needs to acquire or divest if they're serious about SPE. MGM, AMC they need scale. But Yoshida is way too conservative at this moment so Sony is likely to meander in mediocrity through his tenure. If they sell SPE, please explain a cohesive story about Sony. They'll be a hodgepodge of different businesses that make no sense together. And God forbid PS5 craters.
Huh. Well ok then. Learn something new every day.
Well, I want to believe Charlie's Angels will be good and be somewhat of a success, so I'm not going to argue about that.
I'm also honestly hoping that Valient Cinematic Universe ends up being good.
Yoshiba doesn't mind investing but only for the divisions that he deems strategically important. To be honest it's still fairly early to give more money to SPE because of the amount of waste that went on there a couple of years ago. If anything Sony's TV division should be getting more funds but with all the big players investing in their own streaming services and thus investing heavily in new TV shows that is a hard but to crack unless Sony partners up with Netflix or Amazon and makes exclusive shows for them.
Film wise they do need a new franchise that's true, but let's be honest it's been years since they started talking about using their Marvel characters and we only really saw Venom as a result. They need to prove themselves a bit more before more money gets wasted on SPE.
The fact that "Daredevil Agreement" is being used as an actual legal term in a real-life contract is just hilarious to me.
Considering they spent a ton of money somewhere in the 9 figures to secure the services of Phil lord and Chris Miller for the tv division, it looks like that division did get some money to invest.
The whole point of not partnering is so that they can sell to everyone and not be tied down to one service. As it is right now, they've got the most popular show on YouTube (Cobra Kai), one of the most popular shows on Netflix (The Crown) and I think have shows on pretty much every other major streaming service. They're not really having that hard a time of selling their content yet, we'll see if this changes down the road.
I'm actually really curious of what will come of Sony making that Playstation Productions studio house for the gaming side to be able to produce their own movies.
Sony has a lot of potential IP on gaming side that could translate to big films with the proper care. With gaming now being in charge of it i hope something good comes from it.
Sony has a lot of potential IP on gaming side that could translate to big films with the proper care. With gaming now being in charge of it i hope something good comes from it.
Honestly, a pathetic end to the fox x-men universe.
one of the all time biggest bombas. just complete shit from conception to release.
over its entire domestic run, it ended up making a grand total of $76,412 more than xmen apocalypse's OPENING WEEKEND
Sucks because this movie could have been something great.
I'm amazed Hans Zimmer decided to score it too. That soundtrack was bombastic from start to finish, it had that going for it at least lol
It's kind of insane how much comedies have fallen off in just 10-15 years in the box office. Like in 2005 Wedding Crashers made over 200 million domestically (almost 300 million adjusted for inflation). And then of course you have the Hangover in 2009, 277 million actual, 334 adjusted. I don't remember the last comedy to reach 100 million that wasn't Crazy Rich Asians.
I'm not convinced gaming IPs will make huge blockbuster movies, but we'll see.
We have a multi billion dollar film franchise with 5 entries based off a plotless theme park ride. No source medium is incapable of generating massive hits.
A lot of Wedding Crashers's jokes would be problematic today.
I feel like youtube is the main comedy platform for kids, millenials. It's free, it's short, it's full of acting, fake reactions anyway.
Half the reasons why people likes MCU movies or hates them, is how joke-y they are. I consider most of them them as sub-genre comedy.
I feel like youtube is the main comedy platform for kids, millenials. It's free, it's short, it's full of acting, fake reactions anyway.
Half the reasons why people likes MCU movies or hates them, is how joke-y they are. I consider most of them them as sub-genre comedy.
Resident evil only made $100M on a $33M budget according to wikipedia.
I wonder if that happened today would a studio even bother continuing a franchise off those numbers.
They kept at it and carved themself a successful franchise that knew its audience and kept the budgets in check.
I wonder if that happened today would a studio even bother continuing a franchise off those numbers.
They kept at it and carved themself a successful franchise that knew its audience and kept the budgets in check.
I see Angry Birds 2 advertised every where.
Sure, but I would like to see one hit it big before believing it. A proof of concept if you will.
I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just not convinced. I think the IPs that are more based on story telling and ambiance could maybe break out. The ones based on gameplay would be even more likely.
Like what? It's been awhile since I watched the movie.
Sure, but I would like to see one hit it big before believing it. A proof of concept if you will.
I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just not convinced. I think the IPs that are more based on story telling and ambiance could maybe break out. The ones based on gameplay would be even more likely.
Like what? It's been awhile since I watched the movie.
Speaking of which, I wonder how Monster Hunter will do. I read it has a similar budget to the RE films around $60M.
I could easily see that being a $300M + earner.
I could easily see that being a $300M + earner.
I mean right before that you have the scene where the other woman rapes Vince Vaughn and his mortification is played for laughs.
Then they fall in love and get married.
I remember same thing happened in 2016 - all four 200-300 films came out in Q4 of that year. Don't know what films could repeat this - Addams Family, Jumanji, Maleficent if it has good wom (it won't)?
If you look at the teams behind literally any video game movie you can see why none of them have broken out. And half of them are either uninspired trend chasers (Prince of Persia was an obvious attempt at another Pirates of the Caribbean) or are corporate led glorified tie-in products (like Assassin's Creed). We've yet to see an interesting creative team, well-fit for blockbusters, doing genuine adaptation work that's not being directly overseen by a publisher or something.
We just need to get a Donner, a Burton, a Raimi, or a Nolan out there doing their thing. You're not going to get a breakout hit until that happens, and that's the problem.
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It's kinda weird that dime store comic books have turned into the biggest movie industry of the modern era but we're still struggling to adapt video games. Video game movies are still waiting for their Superman 78, making the audience believe that video games can fly.
I guess because there is something inherently more impressive about adapting still panels to a full blown, live action motion picture than fully fleshed out and interactive video games.
I guess because there is something inherently more impressive about adapting still panels to a full blown, live action motion picture than fully fleshed out and interactive video games.
I want to take this time to sincerely apologize for giving 47 Meters Down: Uncaged an additional $20 at the box office. I hope someday the individuals (be they fine or scrubs) in this community can find it in their heart to forgive me
First time I see 3 movies lose over 1k theaters in the same week
I'll give Venom 2 this: It definetely seems like on a non-producer level, they're trying.
... I still don't trust a project with Avi Arad as producer though.
EDIT: Also why the hell is my theater not having 8-9 slots for Dora on a Saturday, but they will for a Sunday? Screw it, finding another theater that's a little further out.
... I still don't trust a project with Avi Arad as producer though.
EDIT: Also why the hell is my theater not having 8-9 slots for Dora on a Saturday, but they will for a Sunday? Screw it, finding another theater that's a little further out.
Looks like they gave Angry Birds 2 too many theaters. Another sequel dropping a lot and bombing.
Blinded by Light has good reviews but doesn't seem like it will survive the crowded week.
Where'd you go Bernadette is just going to disappear fast, probably best for all involved...
Good Boys might be at the top until It 2 release.
Blinded by Light has good reviews but doesn't seem like it will survive the crowded week.
Where'd you go Bernadette is just going to disappear fast, probably best for all involved...
Good Boys might be at the top until It 2 release.
I figure it has a lot to do with the whole "event movies" thing that has taken over the box office. Ain't no one going to a theatre and dropping $15 a ticket to watch a comedy... unless it's Ant Man or Deadpool.
could just watch reruns of friends or the office on netflix. or browse dank memes on twitter and laugh my ass off for free. shit.
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