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Wkd Box Office - 9•6-8•19 - WB's First Clown of 2019 Deflates But Still Scores 2nd Best Horror Debut, Overcomer is Somehow Still in the Top 5

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Rvaan

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Oct 25, 2017
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Outside of IT 2 this week kinda sucked for movies people were looking forward to, but Hustlers is going to be an interesting one to watch. TIFF reviews are really really positive and it could break out in a dead zone of the calendar.
STX potentially hustled its way into staying open for another year.
 

HotHamBoy

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Oct 27, 2017
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It 2 opened at 400+ more theaters than the previous one but made $90m+ could it have been the reviews, it'd length that hurt it or a combo of the two?
Sequels, man. This is why i get frustrated trying to explain why Endgame being a franchise film (and one basically requiring many films worth of homework) was actually a huge hurdle, not an asset.

Everyone acts like original films have it harder but they dominate the top BO when adjusted for inflation. They don't demand any prior investment from the audience. Fewer people show up to sequels because a portion of the audience is bound to have either not enjoyed the prior entry or lost interest.
 

Donald Draper

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Feb 2, 2019
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I thought crawl was pretty damn boring. It didnt really do anything well. It didnt have great acting,characters, set pieces didnt have any inventive scenes. Even the kills were flat. The whole film was just aiming for the middle and that's what it achieved. Mediocrity.

I wish the film was as cheeky as the song choice was for the end credits.
 

Wilco

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Nov 25, 2018
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Sucks about It2 being down from the first but it's the last one, not like it's a franchise going down. Very profitable duo of movies for WB. Crazy success story.
Now September just seems like it's going to be boring.

What will be the number 2 movie?
Ad Astra? Hustlers? Rambo...? Abominable? None seems like it will do much...

Angry Birds 2 total barely reaching the opening weekend from the first and being down worlwide so much is an incredible sad drop... And it even had good reviews.
 

HotHamBoy

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Oct 27, 2017
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The problem with It 2 is that it's not a big screen Stranger Things movie like the 1st one was.
The problem with IT 2 is that it's 2 hours and 50 minutes of poorly executed tropes and cliches and terribly muddled messaging undercut by an embarassing need to constantly undermine the tension with bad jokes and callbacks.
 

KillstealWolf

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Oct 27, 2017
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Gonna watch IT Chapter 2 sometime this week. Having rewatched the first last week. Hopefully it'll still be fun, even knowing it's weaker than the first.
 

stealthyfrog

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Jan 6, 2019
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Shame that Jojo Rabbit played its concept too safe for the TIFF critics. At least Knives Out turned out great. Hustlers is going to save STX's ass
 
Oct 25, 2017
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So Charlie's Angels is releasing that single is releasing on Friday. On the two month mark from the movie coming out.

I would hope that means a trailer is coming this week to coincide with the album release.

... I really want that second trailer. I'm just so excited for it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Sequels, man. This is why i get frustrated trying to explain why Endgame being a franchise film (and one basically requiring many films worth of homework) was actually a huge hurdle, not an asset.

Everyone acts like original films have it harder but they dominate the top BO when adjusted for inflation. They don't demand any prior investment from the audience. Fewer people show up to sequels because a portion of the audience is bound to have either not enjoyed the prior entry or lost interest.
Yup. TFA was the only sequel ever to be the all time domestic top grosser. And that was just about literally the perfect storm for a sequel. The mega hits over the decades have all been original, as the film that eventually dethrones TFA years from now will be.
 

hodayathink

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Oct 25, 2017
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Sequels, man. This is why i get frustrated trying to explain why Endgame being a franchise film (and one basically requiring many films worth of homework) was actually a huge hurdle, not an asset.

Everyone acts like original films have it harder but they dominate the top BO when adjusted for inflation. They don't demand any prior investment from the audience. Fewer people show up to sequels because a portion of the audience is bound to have either not enjoyed the prior entry or lost interest.

Yup. TFA was the only sequel ever to be the all time domestic top grosser. And that was just about literally the perfect storm for a sequel. The mega hits over the decades have all been original, as the film that eventually dethrones TFA years from now will be.
This belies a fundamental truth that Hollywood's top grossers have leaned more and more on sequels over the past 20 years. In 1998, none of the top 10 movies of that year domestically were sequels. In 2008, 4 were (The Dark Knight, Indy 4, Madagascar 2, Quantum of Solace). In 2013, 6 were (Hunger Games: Catching Fire, Iron Man 3, Despicable Me 2, Monsters University, Hobbit 2, and F&F 6). In 2018 it was 6 again(Infinity War, Incredibles 2, Fallen Kingdom, Deadpool 2, MI:Fallout, and Ant Man and the Wasp), with 2 more movies featuring characters that already featured in other movies getting their solo debuts (Black Panther, Aquaman). It's getting harder and harder for original IPs to actually break into the top echelon of the domestic market, if for no other reason than the fact that unless you're one of a handful of directors (Nolan, Speilberg, etc.) or you're already based on a proven IP that just hasn't had a movie yet, it's hard to get the type of production or marketing budget to get to that level on your first go 'round.
 

IDreamOfHime

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Oct 27, 2017
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So McAvoy has started in 3 sequels this year that have all critically and financially been worse than their predecessors? Who'd want to be his agent right now?

Hopefully His Dark Materials is a success.
 

Anth0ny

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Oct 25, 2017
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buzz for joker feels out of this world right now

then again I'm in Toronto and a lot of that is TIFF hype

I wonder if it beats ITs $123.4m OW

didn't IT have an insane number of views for its trailer or something? joker doesn't have that, but... it's a comic book movie in this golden age of comic book movies, so that should give it a nice bump.
 

Deception

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Nov 15, 2017
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So McAvoy has started in 3 sequels this year that have all critically and financially been worse than their predecessors? Who'd want to be his agent right now?

Hopefully His Dark Materials is a success.
Lol none of those were due to him. He's still a top tier actor.
The trend for sequels doing worse than their predecessor has pretty much been a thing for forever minus the few mega-franchise trilogies.
 

stealthyfrog

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Jan 6, 2019
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buzz for joker feels out of this world right now

then again I'm in Toronto and a lot of that is TIFF hype

I wonder if it beats ITs $123.4m OW

didn't IT have an insane number of views for its trailer or something? joker doesn't have that, but... it's a comic book movie in this golden age of comic book movies, so that should give it a nice bump.
I think Joker > It Chapter 2 OW is 100% in play, but It Chapter 1 is well out of reach.
 

Icemonk191

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Oct 25, 2017
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A lot of movies that people thought would be bad are turning out to be some of the best movies of the year.

What a crazy year in film.
 

2Bee

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Oct 27, 2017
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I still think King of the Monsters was worth the trip to the theater.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Bought a Blu Ray for The Shining which will arrive tomorrow for preparation and setting expectations way too high for Doctor Sleep.

I might be getting too invested in this movie lol.

Cats and Doctor Sleep might be my most hype movies for the rest of 2019. Something must be wrong with me.
 

Donald Draper

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Feb 2, 2019
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Wow, The Goldfinch is playing at almost 0 theatres around me for the weekend.


Not playing at a single theater chain, and playing at 1 art house theater two hours away.
 
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