Woman prevents her grandson from committing a school shooting

[The Artisan]

One day before the mass murder in Florida.

a Washington state woman handed police her grandson's journal — which allegedly detailed plans for a mass shooting at his high school.

Catherine Katsel-O'Connor called 911 on Tuesday in Everett, Washington, after she read the journal of her grandson, Joshua Alexander O'Connor, the night before, according to court documents.

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"I'm preparing myself for the school shooting," the teenager wrote, according to court documents. "I can't wait. My aim has gotten much more accurate ... I can't wait to walk into that class and blow all those f---ers away."

In his journal, he also expressed how much attention he had paid to creating the plot and how many of his classmates he hoped to kill.

"I've been thinking alot [sic]," the entry said. "I need to make this shooting/bombing at Kamiak infamous. I need to get the biggest fatality number I possibly can. I need to make this count."

"I've been reviewing many mass shootings/bombings (and attempted bombings)," he added, according to the court documents. "I'm learning from past shooters/bombers mistakes, so I don't make the same ones."

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O'Connor is charged with attempted murder and assault of a police officer. He was also charged with armed robbery on Monday night, officials said; he planned to use the stolen money from the robbery to fund the shooting, deputy prosecutor Andrew Alsdorf said in court Wednesday, according to The Associated Press.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ed-grandson-s-alleged-school-shooting-n848426

please lock if old

 

[Metanoia Prime]

HOLY.

Thank you grandma. Those notes are insane.

 

[DigitalOp]

It all starts at home. Stay involved

 

[Living the Dream]

America has a problem.

 

[rjinaz]

I wonder how close we get to a mass shooting every damn day...

 

[Hypron]

Damn good on the grandmother and good thing the guy was an idiot and wrote his plans down.

 

[entremet]

This is ridiculous.

 

[Heshinsi]

Jesus, good job on grandmother for stepping in preventing another tragedy.

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

That grandma is a hero.


What scares me is that there has to be more people like him, and even one of them is already too many.

 

[Platy]

please lock if old

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Lock TILL old you mean dear god

 

[Metanoia Prime]

Damn good on the grandmother and good thing the guy was an idiot and wrote his plans down.

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Man, the thing is, I bet there are many of these things written down whether it be social media, texts / snaps to friends, journals, etc. It just seems that parents don't pay any damn attention to their kids anymore and have no idea what they have brewing in the bedroom next to theirs. It's a scary, distracted world we live in today.

 

[Bán]

Lifesaver.

There's the whole 'who knows if he would have ever gone through with it when push came to shove' but no chances can be taken with these things and the grandmother is so fucking good for putting the common good above her grandson. So many people would have tried to talk it out because 'family'.

 

[Einchy]

March's mass shooting is canceled but the ones for the rest of the year are still planned.

 

[Kayotix]

My God.... Wtf Is wrong with people these days?

 

[Netherscourge]

Thank goodness she did this.

Need more brave people like her to step up and make that call.

 

[Deleted member 19218]

Wow.

Thanks grandma. They are always the best.

She might have wondered if she was doing the right thing, maybe she just thought it was a sick fantasy and her grandson wouldn't do it but after what happened recently, she definitely won't have any doubts about what she did.

 

[Steel]

One of March's mass shootings are canceled but the ones for the rest of the year are still planned.

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FTFY.

 

[Deleted member 4247]

Super grandma, what a hero!

But yeah, there are many others like him, and this is gonna keep happening until something is done about it. Which the people in charge aren't interested in. NRA money is worth so much more to them than the lives of children. They don't give a shit if your brother or daughter is shot in the head. Not one single shit.

 

[SasaBassa]

Starts at home for sure. The need to imitate the dumbass glorification media feeds these sickos doesn't help either.

We (the larger world rather than the affected community) don't need to know a killer's name/face. Not surprised at his comment about infamy.

Also, duh, gun control. Shit ain't hard.

Thank God for grandma.

 

[Kaako]

Thank you, grandma.

 

[Steel]

Starts at home for sure. The need to imitate the dumbass glorification media feeds these sickos doesn't help either.

We (the larger world rather than the affected community) don't need to know a killer's name/face. Not surprised at his comment about infamy.

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This is nonsense and leads to media grandstanding about not telling us shit like they have been for years. It's not like people won't find out publically available information if they're like the shit in the OP. Don't err on the side of ignorance.

 

[AlexFlame116]

Thank you so so much grandmother. Seriously. It would have made things so much worse now.

We have to do something about this yesterday. It's just so FRUSTRATING that the powers that be don't even want to discuss what they know the problem is.

 

[Kapus]

What did this dumbass hope to get out of this? Was he really planning an attack just to be infamous?

 

[Ein]

While in custody, O'Connor was able to pull his hand out of one of his cuffs and made a run for it across the parking lot, the court documents state. As he attempted to make his escape, he fell down onto a mulch-covered area near the blacktop. That's when the officer caught up and the suspect "mule kicked" the policeman in the leg.

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If he was Black they would've dropped a nuke on his ass, holy fuck.

 

[infinitebento]

I can't imagine how that grandmother must be feeling.

 

[Darryl M R]

I wonder if he was radicalized with white supremacists or another group. Good job grandmom.

 

[Astronut325]

What drove the kid to this?

 

[Shauni]

March's mass shooting is canceled but the ones for the rest of the year are still planned.

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Well one of March's is canceled. I'm sure we'll have at least one other one in some form, even if it's not major.

 

[Sybil]

I know it may be mental illness and all that, but it bewilders me that there are people who desire to have a "high score" for killing people. I was a pretty angsty "I hate people / this world" teen too and it's completely beyond me.

 

[lazybones18]

She's more competent than the FBI at this point

 

[Deleted member 11413]

Lifesaver.

There's the whole 'who knows if he would have ever gone through with it when push came to shove' but no chances can be taken with these things and the grandmother is so fucking good for putting the common good above her grandson. So many people would have tried to talk it out because 'family'.

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Well, he is being charged with the actual crimes he committed, not the ones he thought about. Given that he committed an armed robbery to prepare suggests he was fairly serious.

 

[III-V]

we don't have a gun problem you libtard jackasses, this is obvious mental health issue (if it exists) and obvious democratic grandmother false flag ops.

 

[hitme]

Give that grandmother a medal of honor.

 

[Deleted member 5864]

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While in custody, O'Connor was able to pull his hand out of one of his cuffs and made a run for it across the parking lot, the court documents state. As he attempted to make his escape, he fell down onto a mulch-covered area near the blacktop. That's when the officer caught up and the suspect "mule kicked" the policeman in the leg.

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I mean, I'm not gonna say it, but everyone is thinking it...


And grandma is a hero.

 

[GameAddict411]

Calling these people sick seems like a disservice to people with true mental illnesses. It's like some people are just born monsters, or they were shaped to be one by their environment. Either cases, if the kid secured his funding for the weapons, he would have been able to buy them easily. It's mind bending considering that I attend two colleges at this time. What are the chances of a psycho coming in hot to kill as much student as possible next week? or the month after? the year after? It's giving me anxiety to say the least. The recent shootings are just giving people more motive to do these things.

 

[III-V]

Thrilled this ass hat is 18 yo so he will be tried as an adult. Not that our gun laws might keep him from getting a weapon, cause you know, god given right en all.

 

[JigglesBunny]

"I've been reviewing many mass shootings/bombings (and attempted bombings)," he added, according to the court documents. "I'm learning from past shooters/bombers mistakes, so I don't make the same ones."

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This part is so incredibly telling. The fact that we publicize the shooters and bombers so much more than the victims gives these potential terrorists a blueprint.

We need strict gun control. We need help for the mentally ill. We need to discourage promoting these terrorists in the media by plastering their name and face all over the news as it only serves to inspire these prospective attackers to "one up" them and learn from them.

We need change and we need it now.

 

[GameAddict411]

Thrilled this ass hat is 18 yo

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I hope he never sees the light of day.

 

[Ketkat]

Lifesaver.

There's the whole 'who knows if he would have ever gone through with it when push came to shove' but no chances can be taken with these things and the grandmother is so fucking good for putting the common good above her grandson. So many people would have tried to talk it out because 'family'.

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He robbed a store on Monday to get money to fund this. And he was building explosives to use. He would have definitely gone through with it and its fantastic that he was caught before he did

 

[Deleted member 6223]

Jesus. Catherine Katsel O'Connor is a heroine.

 

[III-V]

She's more competent than the FBI at this point

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sort of grade B- shit thing to say

 

[Jadusable]

I've been reviewing many mass shootings/bombings (and attempted bombings)," he added, according to the court documents. "I'm learning from past shooters/bombers mistakes, so I don't make the same ones."

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Apparently not the most important one, dumbass.

Grandmother is a hero

 

[SasaBassa]

This is nonsense and leads to media grandstanding about not telling us shit like they have been for years. It's not like people won't find out publically available information if they're like the shit in the OP. Don't err on the side of ignorance.

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...equating what I said -- don't turn motherfucking killers into icons by having their faces plastered everywhere with American news media's (well, all news media's) flair for amping up fear and making them seem larger than life -- is not covering it up.

I strongly feel that shit would be better served and less sensational in a documentary and while the news blast can focus on the victims, as well as fixing the problem. Argument to be made for studying psyche, etc. but it should be pulled apart from the cult of personality that so often develops.

I've never seen the media grandstanding you reference but I'm sure it happens or has happened to some extent. Not here for it.

I'm glad this one was stopped. And he got away with kicking an officer? Generally speaking that's a Judge Dredd death sentence, isn't it?

 

[SugarNoodles]

This is nonsense and leads to media grandstanding about not telling us shit like they have been for years. It's not like people won't find out publically available information if they're like the shit in the OP. Don't err on the side of ignorance.

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That doesnt seem like a fair statements. The media can cover these stories without shining a light on the identify of the killer and looking into their personal life like this is some sort of puzzle to be solved.

 

[LL_Decitrig]

I wonder how close we get to a mass shooting every damn day...

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You know what? I'll guess you're in America. I live in a country that isn't America. Guess how many times I have ever worried about any member of my family being caught in a mass shooting.

It's not less than zero, obviously, but it's less than one.

You need gun control.

 

[Tagyhag]

Awesome grandma! Dude looks like he's 35, got nothing better to do?

Well, definitely not now.

Apparently not the most important one, dumbass.

Grandmother is a hero

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Right?

"Just gonna write this whole plot in this here diary!"

Surprised the stupid fuck didn't accidentaly shoot himself.

 

[SlipperySlope]

This whole mass shooting thing is a real issue that virtually did not exist 30 years ago. America went 250 years without this problem, and now it happens so often we are numb to it. Something changed in the last 30 years that did not exist in the 250 years prior.

We can all make our guesses but my guess is our parenting changed. Parent are very hands off towards their kids today. A distinct lack of parental discipline for bad behavior. Kids largely get away with anything they want because their parents, sometimes legally, cannot do anything about it. Many parents simply do not care. Can't spank your kids anymore.

Parents were also more apt to send bad kids off to camp/counseling/military school, etc to teach them discipline. That is also all on the decline. Kids are too precious for that stuff.

Schools also cannot discipline kids anymore.

I think if our parenting style went back to what it was prior to say 1970, this issue would no longer happen. Unfortunately even if it started today it would take a generation to get to the point of disciplined kids growing up, much like it took a generation for the shootings to start.

 

[Deleted member 15848]

Good on grandma for turning him in

I wonder how many other kids are out there right now who are planning to do the same thing, shit is scary when you think about it

 

[Kilic95]

Dear lord, he even made homemade explosives. Good thing he was stopped.

 

[LL_Decitrig]

Something changed in the last 30 years that did not exist in the 250 years prior.

We can all make our guesses but my guess is our parenting changed.

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No. It's the guns. Stop trying to pretend it isn't the stupidly high availability of guns. No other country has this problem.