WONDER WOMAN 1984 Is Not A Sequel And Will Be A Standalone Adventure

KtotheRoc

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I can see they are truly taking inspiration from the comics, and making continuity as complicated and nonsensical as humanly possible.
 

ReiGun

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I guarantee it's not as big a deal as anyone in this thread or talking about the movie is making it out to be. The first trailer is gonna hit in like 4 months, be a Wonder Woman movie, and everything will be fine.
 

Mobu

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Kinda understand what theyre saying, its not like anyone calls the second spongebob movie a sequel to the first one
 

Spyder_Monkey

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So that's why Steve is alive, because the first film never happened and not magic or something?
I doubt it. Just because it's not a sequel to the first film doesn't mean the first film never happened. That's like saying Steve should've been alive in Justice League because it wasn't a sequel as well.
 

pokeystaples

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I would be just okay if each WW movie was just a random one off story from her incredibly long history. I don’t really care about the continuity thing if the movie is good.
 

Nikus

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So just like Captain America 2 was not a sequel to the first one because it was set a long time after... but it was still a sequel because you know... same characters, and it's chronologically set after.

 

Davilmar

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Pretty dumb way to describe the movie, when they could have just called it a loose sequel. Hell, part of the reason I hate MCU is because of the albatross of connecting every damn movie to one another. I like standalone movies, but sequels with some background connections work fine.
 
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So exactly the opposite of what most people want then. =/

Reading about all these different joker movies, the new Batman, how they might be rebooting Suicide Squad... like, I don't even want to waste my time. There's nothing to get invested in if it's just a bunch of standalone movies.
How did you ever enjoy movies?
I don't know why they're being so weird about this.

It's the second Wonder Woman movie, it takes place in the time line after the first one, it's a sequel.

There are even pics with Chris Pine's character somehow being back and in the 80's.

Even if he's an illusion or clone or something it's still a direct callback to a character in the previous movie.
I think that is the point. What happened in the first one has no real affect on 1984.
 

molnizzle

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How did you ever enjoy movies?
Silly question.

It's not that I can't enjoy solo comic book movies. It's that I enjoy them so much more when they're connected. So does everyone else, it would seem. That's kinda why The Avengers blew up in the first place.

After that, it's kinda hard to care too much about one-off superheroes. I enjoyed Wonder Woman and I'm sure I'll enjoy this one as well, but I dunno if it's gonna be a day one thing. It's more exciting when you know all the solo films are eventually building to something bigger. I devour every new MCU film during its first showing because I want to see how it fits into the universe they've built, see if it changes anything.

There's also the issue that audiences are now conditioned to expect that from superhero films, so it's gonna be kinda weird and confusing if there really are gonna be multiple actors playing different versions of the same character in different continuities.
 
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Clu

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I don't get what they are trying to say really, just say its a continuation of the story presented starting in WW. They seem they want to go out of their way to say it's stand alone.

Only way I can think they are trying to say is how Aquaman is a continuation of Justice League and not a squeal to it, but even that doesn't really work. Its a damn sequel to WW, call it that lol
 
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So then why is Steve Trevor in it...
So, same time line but stand alone story? Is Trevor only in flashbacks then?
New story, new Trevor.
Silly question.

It's not that I can't enjoy solo comic book movies. It's that I enjoy them so much more when they're connected. So does everyone else, it would seem. That's kinda why the first Avengers blew up in the first place.

After that, it's kinda hard to care too much about one-off superheroes. I enjoyed Wonder Woman and I'm sure I'll enjoy this one as well, but I dunno if it's gonna be a day one thing. It's more exciting when you know all the solo films are eventually building to something bigger. I devour every new MCU film during its first showing because I want to see how it fits into the universe they've built, see if it changes anything.

There's also the issue that audiences are now conditioned to expect that from superhero films, so it's gonna be really weird and confusing if there really are gonna be multiple actors playing different versions of the same character in different continuities.
I didn't ask about comicbookmovies
 

Rendering...

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If the movie takes place in the timeline of the original one at a later point, it's a sequel. I'm not fond of dumb word games.
 

SharkJohnson

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It would honestly be very next level if this and a potential third movie were just retelling a of the first film, set in different time periods. Would the masses even notice? Probably not. God I wish this was happening.
 

molnizzle

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"There's nothing to get invested in if it's just a bunch of standalone movies. "

Let me rephrase maybe. Did you ever get invested in non comicbook movies?
uh, sure. That's wholly irrelevant to the discussion in this thread though.

Wonder Woman is a superhero. Now that the MCU has given us 20+ comic book movies in an interconnected universe, it's tough to get excited by one-off's again. Sequels are popular for a reason, especially for superheroes. In a way, MCU is putting out 3 sequels a year in a franchise we've been following for over a decade. It's like comfort food for my eyeballs.

Superhero movies are intrinsically kinda silly (especially as I get older), so removing that comfort food aspect negates a lot of the appeal to me.
 

Jogi

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Don’t really care either way. I think forcing a connected universe can , at times, hamstring a Universe. I’m just here for great movies, no matter the connection to another. Shrugs.
 
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uh, sure. That's wholly irrelevant to the discussion in this thread though.

Wonder Woman is a superhero. Now that the MCU has given us 20+ comic book movies in an interconnected universe, it's tough to get excited by one-off's again. Sequels are popular for a reason, especially for superheroes. In a way, MCU is putting out 3 sequels a year in a franchise we've been following for over a decade. It's like comfort food for my eyeballs.

Superhero movies are intrinsically kinda silly (especially as I get older), so removing that comfort food aspect negates a lot of the appeal to me.

So for movies it is not neeeded, but for (comicbook) movies it is?
 

molnizzle

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So for movies it is not neeeded, but for (comicbook) movies it is?
It’s like you can’t read.

I never said it was needed. I said, specifically, that comic book movies are more enjoyable to me when they’re part of an interconnected universe. The undeniable success of the MCU (and The Avengers in particular) suggests that a large percentage of viewers feel the same way, so it’s not exactly a controversial statement.
 

hoju

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It’s like you can’t read.

I never said it was needed. I said, specifically, that comic book movies are more enjoyable to me when they’re part of an interconnected universe. The undeniable success of the MCU (and The Avengers in particular) suggests that a large percentage of viewers feel the same way, so it’s not exactly a controversial statement.
Aquaman made more than most Marvels and it was standalone
 

molnizzle

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Aquaman made more than most Marvels and it was standalone
Is Aquaman not part of DCEU now?

That’s a stupid gotcha, in any case. Clearly standalone movies can still make money, but it’s undeniable that a huge part of the MCU’s appeal is the fact that it’s all connected. People aren’t tearing up during the latest Endgame trailer because the movie just looks so good as a standalone picture.

This. The first movie still happened. They're just not following up on any threads from it.
Why the hell didn’t they just say that, then? lol, jesus.
 

chrisPjelly

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Me thinks it'll completely ignore the BvS/JL continuity of Wonder Woman suddenly vanishing from the face of the earth after WW1.

Guess we don't have to worry about Wonder Women trying to inconspicuously save the day in the 80s :P
 
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It’s like you can’t read.

I never said it was needed. I said, specifically, that comic book movies are more enjoyable to me when they’re part of an interconnected universe. The undeniable success of the MCU (and The Avengers in particular) suggests that a large percentage of viewers feel the same way, so it’s not exactly a controversial statement.
How many enjoy Dark Knight more because Scarecrow shows up again? Like literally noone cares and the movie isn't for the worse due to it.
 

hoju

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Is Aquaman not part of DCEU now?

That’s a stupid gotcha, in any case. Clearly standalone movies can still make money, but it’s undeniable that a huge part of the MCU’s appeal is the fact that it’s all connected. People aren’t tearing up during the latest Endgame trailer because the movie just looks so good as a standalone picture.
The new Wonder Woman is still connected... its still Gal Gadot. The new aquaman acted like the justice league never happened, and it was better for it. They tried the extended universe with justice league, Batman v superman, suicide squad kinda. It failed because they didn’t let each movie be it’s own thing. Theyre doing what they should’ve done before, focus on the individual films, build the audiences relationship with the characters. The new spiderverse movie isn’t connected to anything, yet people still love it.
 

molnizzle

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How many enjoy Dark Knight more because Scarecrow shows up again? Like literally noone cares and the movie isn't for the worse due to it.
I would’ve enjoyed BvS more if it took place in TDK timeline though. I also would’ve enjoyed seeing Harvry Dent have some sort of cameo in MoS. TDK was also pre-Avengers.

Again, obviously, superhero movies can be fine as solo films. They’re just more interesting when they’re part of a larger universe.

I feel like you’re trolling me right now. The MCU is as popular as it is because it’s an interconnected universe. Period. That’s, like, half the point of it.

The new Wonder Woman is still connected... its still Gal Gadot. The new aquaman acted like the justice league never happened, and it was better for it. They tried the extended universe with justice league, Batman v superman, suicide squad kinda. It failed because they didn’t let each movie be it’s own thing. Theyre doing what they should’ve done before, focus on the individual films, build the audiences relationship with the characters. The new spiderverse movie isn’t connected to anything, yet people still love it.
It’d be fine if they weren’t making multiple Joker movies with different actors and rebooting stuff like Suicide Squad so soon after the original. That’s just putting comic book level timeline complexity into movies. I’m a nerd and even I can’t be bothered with that shit.

What they should’ve done before is wipe everything and start fresh with an actual vision. Or just salvage the DCEU. It wasn’t irreparable, early MCU had some stinkers too. This new approach is just bogus.
 
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hoju

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It’d be fine if they weren’t making multiple Joker movies with different actors and rebooting stuff like Suicide Squad so soon after the original. That’s just putting comic book level timeline complexity into movies. I’m a nerd and even I can’t be bothered with that shit.

What they should’ve done before is wipe everything and start fresh with an actual vision. Or just salvage the DCEU. It wasn’t irreparable, early MCU had some stinkers too. This new approach is just bogus.
Honestly if the movies are good I doubt people would care. And don’t comic books do that all the time? Different authors having different interpretations and such? And what Marvel did with their movies has paid off, Feige is a genius. But the idea that one offcomic book movie is a waste of time because there won’t be a sequel or whatever is insane to me. A good movie is a good movie