Kinda understand what theyre saying, its not like anyone calls the second spongebob movie a sequel to the first one
I doubt it. Just because it's not a sequel to the first film doesn't mean the first film never happened. That's like saying Steve should've been alive in Justice League because it wasn't a sequel as well.So that's why Steve is alive, because the first film never happened and not magic or something?
Fuuuuuck this opinion. The main theme to Wonder Woman is the best one going in super hero movies rn.
Ah, so they're lyingThank you.
It's a god damn sequel to the 1st one no matter how you try to phrase it.
It's like they don't have a clue at all.Because if there's one thing audiences can't stand these days, it's sequels.
Good god, WB.
Spongebob doesn't belong to a cinematic universe where everything is connected.
So exactly the opposite of what most people want then. =/
Reading about all these different joker movies, the new Batman, how they might be rebooting Suicide Squad... like, I don't even want to waste my time. There's nothing to get invested in if it's just a bunch of standalone movies.
I don't know why they're being so weird about this.
It's the second Wonder Woman movie, it takes place in the time line after the first one, it's a sequel.
There are even pics with Chris Pine's character somehow being back and in the 80's.
Even if he's an illusion or clone or something it's still a direct callback to a character in the previous movie.
Silly question.
So, same time line but stand alone story? Is Trevor only in flashbacks then?
Silly question.
It's not that I can't enjoy solo comic book movies. It's that I enjoy them so much more when they're connected. So does everyone else, it would seem. That's kinda why the first Avengers blew up in the first place.
After that, it's kinda hard to care too much about one-off superheroes. I enjoyed Wonder Woman and I'm sure I'll enjoy this one as well, but I dunno if it's gonna be a day one thing. It's more exciting when you know all the solo films are eventually building to something bigger. I devour every new MCU film during its first showing because I want to see how it fits into the universe they've built, see if it changes anything.
There's also the issue that audiences are now conditioned to expect that from superhero films, so it's gonna be really weird and confusing if there really are gonna be multiple actors playing different versions of the same character in different continuities.
...okay? I'm talking about comic book movies.
I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say here.
uh, sure. That's wholly irrelevant to the discussion in this thread though."There's nothing to get invested in if it's just a bunch of standalone movies. "
Let me rephrase maybe. Did you ever get invested in non comicbook movies?
uh, sure. That's wholly irrelevant to the discussion in this thread though.
Wonder Woman is a superhero. Now that the MCU has given us 20+ comic book movies in an interconnected universe, it's tough to get excited by one-off's again. Sequels are popular for a reason, especially for superheroes. In a way, MCU is putting out 3 sequels a year in a franchise we've been following for over a decade. It's like comfort food for my eyeballs.
Superhero movies are intrinsically kinda silly (especially as I get older), so removing that comfort food aspect negates a lot of the appeal to me.
It's like you can't read.So for movies it is not neeeded, but for (comicbook) movies it is?
Aquaman made more than most Marvels and it was standaloneIt's like you can't read.
I never said it was needed. I said, specifically, that comic book movies are more enjoyable to me when they're part of an interconnected universe. The undeniable success of the MCU (and The Avengers in particular) suggests that a large percentage of viewers feel the same way, so it's not exactly a controversial statement.
This. The first movie still happened. They're just not following up on any threads from it.It's a sequel, just not a direct sequel.
Why was that so hard?
Is Aquaman not part of DCEU now?
Why the hell didn't they just say that, then? lol, jesus.This. The first movie still happened. They're just not following up on any threads from it.
It's like you can't read.
I never said it was needed. I said, specifically, that comic book movies are more enjoyable to me when they're part of an interconnected universe. The undeniable success of the MCU (and The Avengers in particular) suggests that a large percentage of viewers feel the same way, so it's not exactly a controversial statement.
The new Wonder Woman is still connected... its still Gal Gadot. The new aquaman acted like the justice league never happened, and it was better for it. They tried the extended universe with justice league, Batman v superman, suicide squad kinda. It failed because they didn't let each movie be it's own thing. Theyre doing what they should've done before, focus on the individual films, build the audiences relationship with the characters. The new spiderverse movie isn't connected to anything, yet people still love it.Is Aquaman not part of DCEU now?
That's a stupid gotcha, in any case. Clearly standalone movies can still make money, but it's undeniable that a huge part of the MCU's appeal is the fact that it's all connected. People aren't tearing up during the latest Endgame trailer because the movie just looks so good as a standalone picture.
I would've enjoyed BvS more if it took place in TDK timeline though. I also would've enjoyed seeing Harvry Dent have some sort of cameo in MoS. TDK was also pre-Avengers.How many enjoy Dark Knight more because Scarecrow shows up again? Like literally noone cares and the movie isn't for the worse due to it.
It'd be fine if they weren't making multiple Joker movies with different actors and rebooting stuff like Suicide Squad so soon after the original. That's just putting comic book level timeline complexity into movies. I'm a nerd and even I can't be bothered with that shit.The new Wonder Woman is still connected... its still Gal Gadot. The new aquaman acted like the justice league never happened, and it was better for it. They tried the extended universe with justice league, Batman v superman, suicide squad kinda. It failed because they didn't let each movie be it's own thing. Theyre doing what they should've done before, focus on the individual films, build the audiences relationship with the characters. The new spiderverse movie isn't connected to anything, yet people still love it.
Aquaman treat JL as canon actually. Mera mentioned something like saving Atlantis by defeating motherbox or something.The new Wonder Woman is still connected... its still Gal Gadot. The new aquaman acted like the justice league never happened, and it was better for it.
Me thinks it'll completely ignore the BvS/JL continuity of Wonder Woman suddenly vanishing from the face of the earth after WW1.
Guess we don't have to worry about Wonder Women trying to inconspicuously save the day in the 80s :P
Honestly if the movies are good I doubt people would care. And don't comic books do that all the time? Different authors having different interpretations and such? And what Marvel did with their movies has paid off, Feige is a genius. But the idea that one offcomic book movie is a waste of time because there won't be a sequel or whatever is insane to me. A good movie is a good movieIt'd be fine if they weren't making multiple Joker movies with different actors and rebooting stuff like Suicide Squad so soon after the original. That's just putting comic book level timeline complexity into movies. I'm a nerd and even I can't be bothered with that shit.
What they should've done before is wipe everything and start fresh with an actual vision. Or just salvage the DCEU. It wasn't irreparable, early MCU had some stinkers too. This new approach is just bogus.