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Milo Rambaldi

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Alright, you've convinced me, guess I'll give it a go lol!

edit: I wonder if they'll have BfA on sale anytime soon...
It's been on sale recently a few times but I'm not sure about right now.

That rag statue is very cool but that kind of stuff isn't for me. I usually regret buying CE-type stuff.
I don't like statues generally so I usually sell that stuff on eBay to people who missed out (oops) but I like the mounts and the art a lot. Maybe I'll put Rag up somewhere. Who knows.
 

Milo Rambaldi

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Presumably they'll be timewalking raids so gear level shouldn't matter too much.

They're also making the new CE mounts available on the shop for people who just want the ivory mounts.
 

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They're releasing a Collector's Edition. With no new expansion coming out or attached. For $99.

Blizzard's price gouging is alive and well, I see.

Nice to hear Classic's release date, though. Cautiously looking forward to it.
 

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Screens of a new cinematic are being leaked currently, I would link some but the stuff I find keeps getting taken down.

Looks like we're with Saurfang again as he heads to Nagrand and talks to Thrall. Thrall looks a lot like movie Durotan.
 

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Screens of a new cinematic are being leaked currently, I would link some but the stuff I find keeps getting taken down.

Looks like we're with Saurfang again as he heads to Nagrand and talks to Thrall. Thrall looks a lot like movie Durotan.
When might this cinematic be released?
 

Milo Rambaldi

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Screens of a new cinematic are being leaked currently, I would link some but the stuff I find keeps getting taken down.

Looks like we're with Saurfang again as he heads to Nagrand and talks to Thrall. Thrall looks a lot like movie Durotan.
They probably won't but I hope they
kinda touch on what happened with Thrall after the Enh Shama scenario in Legion
. It's a kinda neat plot point. I hope it's not like Neptulon's return and they're like "it's fine. you don't need to know."
 

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When might this cinematic be released?
I imagine near 8.2, though I did see somebody say tomorrow, but there isn't anything substantiating that. I guess it was shown at a recent "WoW summit" with influencers and such.

They probably won't but I hope they
kinda touch on what happened with Thrall after the Enh Shama scenario in Legion
. It's a kinda neat plot point. I hope it's not like Neptulon's return and they're like "it's fine. you don't need to know."
They might be leaning in that direction since he is hanging out in Nagrand. He's shown shirtless on a farm wielding some big axe.
 

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rofl i just saw those leaks, thrall legit looks exactly like Durotan.

I'm all in for Nagrand in CGI glory though.
 

Milo Rambaldi

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I imagine near 8.2, though I did see somebody say tomorrow, but there isn't anything substantiating that. I guess it was shown at a recent "WoW summit" with influencers and such.



They might be leaning in that direction since he is hanging out in Nagrand. He's shown shirtless on a farm wielding some big axe.
All I can imagine is (Pre-Spoiler for Avengers Endgame)
a Thanos in Endgame tending the farm in a "happy" life since he lost his powers or something.
and then they just go "oh everything is fine let's go!"
 

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My favorite was the Hellscream cameo

Makes me sad that we will probably never see another Warcraft movie. The CGI is so good.

 

Milo Rambaldi

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I wouldn't be opposed to a second WC movie if the writing was a bit better and they didn't have to condense so much into one film but I also wouldn't mind the WoW Cinematics team getting a chance to take a shot at making a feature film either.

I don't think any of them would turn out to be Oscar level writing films but I think the cinematic movies would definitely be entertaining.
 

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I wouldn't be opposed to a second WC movie if the writing was a bit better and they didn't have to condense so much into one film but I also wouldn't mind the WoW Cinematics team getting a chance to take a shot at making a feature film either.

I don't think any of them would turn out to be Oscar level writing films but I think the cinematic movies would definitely be entertaining.
My only complaint about the movie is that the humans didn't really mesh that well with CGI and Orcs, wish they would have gone full CGI and included Taurens, Undead and Trolls.

Imagine Thunder Bluff. Oooff.
 

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My only complaint about the movie is that the humans didn't really mesh that well with CGI and Orcs, wish they would have gone full CGI and included Taurens, Undead and Trolls.

Imagine Thunder Bluff. Oooff.
The main issue with the movie ass that it left a lot to you knowing what was going on in advance. You don't notice when you're already in on the lore, but they explain next to nothing besides the fel

Also why was Dalaran already flying
 

Milo Rambaldi

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My only complaint about the movie is that the humans didn't really mesh that well with CGI and Orcs, wish they would have gone full CGI and included Taurens, Undead and Trolls.

Imagine Thunder Bluff. Oooff.
I mean this could be my thirst talking (hint: it is) but as long as they keep Human Khadgar around I'm good. He was so nice to look at.

Everything else can be CGI. He can just be greenscreened in when he's needed.
 

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OK, he doesn't look quite as much as durotan in the clearer shot. I think there is actually a little Metzen influence though.

Also looks like he got himself a big ol axe to replace the doomhammer.
 

Milo Rambaldi

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It's kinda like how Jaina looks more like whats her face. You know. I can't think of her --- Laura Bailey.

I swear Sylvanas looks like Jennifer Garner sometimes. Don't @ me.
 

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hot take: i thought the movie was actually okay-ish. Partially just because of all the fanservice. It wasn't, like, very good outside of Orc parts, but I didn't hate it at all.

And speaking of cinematics, the WoD one is my favorite. "We will never be slaves!" always gives me chills. The music rules, too. WotLK is a close second.
 

Milo Rambaldi

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The movie was decent especially for a video game movie. It just needs some kinks worked out.

The Cata cinematic gets me though. I love Deathwing's voice and general presence (which is lol since he was barely in the expansion). the launch of Cata was when I was most invested in WoW so I maybe sorta got a little emotionally invested when the world was "destroyed."

I'm sorry.
 

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I like Cataclysm's and Battle for Azeroth's

Cataclysm because it really hammers home how bad it all gets, and how Deathwing truly is a force of nature. His presence alone is enough to decimate areas.

Battle for Azeroth because it let's the major players have their moments. Even as horde that mass rez is amazing
 

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The BFA cinematic was so fucking amazing. I loved how everyone was portrayed and I am definitely not an Alliance player.

Sylvanas comes off as so smooth and awesome and in charge and just amazing and.... in game she's the greatest evil or something. -_- There's a huge disconnect between the cinematic and what happens in the game and thanks i hate it.
 

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Is this it?

I'd rather have a cinematic from Sylvanas, or hell, Azshara's point of view instead of another Saurfang one at this point. I already know he's just going to talk about honor and how he doesn't like the Horde as it is right now before even seeing the cinematic.

in game she's the greatest evil or something. -_- There's a huge disconnect between the cinematic and what happens in the game and thanks i hate it.
She isn't "evil" to most of the Horde though , at least according to one of the devs (can't remember who said it). She's well respected.
I can't remember if that interview was before or after Teldrassil though (probably after).
 

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The BFA cinematic was so fucking amazing. I loved how everyone was portrayed and I am definitely not an Alliance player.

Sylvanas comes off as so smooth and awesome and in charge and just amazing and.... in game she's the greatest evil or something. -_- There's a huge disconnect between the cinematic and what happens in the game and thanks i hate it.
All this shit got kicked off by a misunderstanding and the cinematic implied that Sylvanas understood this, then as we got further into this expansion they tried to make the Alliance as justified as possible by having her commit warcrime after warcrime

Then they implied that it's because she's tired of the back and forth and wanted to end it permanently
 

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I'd rather have a cinematic from Sylvanas, or hell, Azshara's point of view instead of another Saurfang one at this point. I already know he's just going to talk about honor and how he doesn't like the Horde as it is right now before even seeing the cinematic.


She isn't "evil" to most of the Horde though , at least according to one of the devs (can't remember who said it). She's well respected.
I can't remember if that interview was before or after Teldrassil though (probably after).
You'll probably find no one in this topic who will defend her as much as I will however... What the devs say (probably Afrasiabi and I probably mangled that spelling) versus what we're show in game is drastically different. Obviously there's an intended twist but like none of the leaders want her around anymore, her intentions are vague and muddied and not in a good, "mysterious" character kind of way. She's been retconned to have been a part of the original Undercity revolt and condoned using the plague at Wrathgate... It's just bad.

Sylvanas was always an in the shadows, get it done but for the good of the Horde kind of character and now she's just being written as a Garrosh 2.0 which we've hashed out a thousand times before on this forum. However, in the trailer, I see the Sylvanas who helped Varian fight in the Legion cinematic but this time she's heroically defending and assisting the horde against whatever the Alliance is attacking them for. Actually, thinking about it now, this trailer makes zero sense in the context of why this trailer is happening. No one Horde-side in the trailer behaves the way they do in the actual in game representation of this battle. There's a disconnect somewhere and the characters (and by extension the players) are suffering for it.

I have a lot of feelings about this.
 

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However, in the trailer, I see the Sylvanas who helped Varian fight in the Legion cinematic but this time she's heroically defending and assisting the horde against whatever the Alliance is attacking them for.
Yeah, her monologue seems to imply that this was a direct result of what happened with Varian in legion, and that Genn (and Jaina) are revenge crazy and Sylvanas is letting it ride because it can't be helped. She also joins her army instead of using them as fodder like she does in-game
 

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Yeah, her monologue seems to imply that this was a direct result of what happened with Varian in legion, and that Genn (and Jaina) are revenge crazy and Sylvanas is letting it ride because it can't be helped
Yep and I honestly think that somewhere along the lines when this trailer was being conceptualized someone was like "we need the tie in novel so make up some conflict" and it directly clashed with the original intent and now we've had a shit ton of handwaving and character assassination to get us to the story they decided to tell anyway. "No one will notice. It's fine."

I don't care if she leaves the position of Warchief (even if I think she could be a good leader if given a fair shake) but if she's killed off or dies a villain I will be fucking pissed. Somehow even more than I am already.

Again, feelings.
 

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Yep and I honestly think that somewhere along the lines when this trailer was being conceptualized someone was like "we need the tie in novel so make up some conflict" and it directly clashed with the original intent and now we've had a shit ton of handwaving and character assassination to get us to the story they decided to tell anyway. "No one will notice. It's fine."

I don't care if she leaves the position of Warchief (even if I think she could be a good leader if given a fair shake) but if she's killed off or dies a villain I will be fucking pissed. Somehow even more than I am already.

Again, feelings.
I was always under the assumption that they thought the Alliance got shafted in the last couple of expansions, losing Theramore, Varian, having nothing to do in WoD, etc, so this was their way of giving them a decent plot. Only issue is that the Alliance needs someone to fight or they fall apart. And since they all have some degree of beef with Sylvanas (nature-wise for the night elves, Varian for the humans, Gilneas for the Worgen, etc) she was the prime candidate
 

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I was always under the assumption that they thought the Alliance got shafted in the last couple of expansions, losing Theramore, Varian, having nothing to do in WoD, etc, so this was their way of giving them a decent plot. Only issue is that the Alliance needs someone to fight or they fall apart. And since they all have some degree of beef with Sylvanas (nature-wise for the night elves, Varian for the humans, Gilneas for the Worgen, etc) she was the prime candidate
After Legion showed us the whole "cooperation" angle I fully expected the conflicts to just kinda become problems both sides had to tackle. Anecdotal, but I see a lot of people who just don't think the factions would go back to hating each other after everything we went through and I kinda agree. Plus I need a gameplay update where I can party with friends who refuse to, ahem, see the Light play Horde. The War in Warcraft doesn't have to be faction conflict. There can be more.

And yes, faction conflict should still be a thing but it shouldn't be the driving force anymore imo. It's tired. But PVP solves that problem if you make PVP lore and have the leaders go "We're at peace with the Horde/Alliance but these idiots can't keep it in their pants so we don't condone their actions so let them get themselves killed or something" and have little PVP storylines over resources and shit - idk.

But I swear to god if we lose another Horde leader in any way I may lose my mind.

and this is the most Warcraft discussion I've had (and this topic has seen) in a while and it gets my blood pumping. it gives me life.
 

Milo Rambaldi

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It’s good but I drastically prefer new model Sylvanas with her battle mail. The armor looks incomplete without it.

Still way better than any cosplay I’ve ever done. Which is coincidentally also an archer.
 

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Sylvanas is garbage. Even Garrosh was better, and he was as low tier as you could get.

Can't wait for Blizzard to make her the new Lich Queen and put out another fanservice expansion, this time Northrend 2.0.

/s

RIP Vol'jin, and I never thought I would miss green Jesus.
 
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We really need a Warcraft series in order to be able to do the lore justice. Too much lore to try and fit into a 2 hour movie.

I wonder if that 15th anniversary CE will be available at Best Buy? Probably won't have a discount though as its not software. Hmm.