welp - guess it wasn't a bug
Huzzah!
welp - guess it wasn't a bug
Ahhh I see, I was thinking I would get an option to just skip when he offers the quest. Are those the only two times you can skip?The first time you go to the Halls of Origination with Magni, before you walk in you can talk to him again and skip. The second skip is when Ra-den tells you to go under the Mogushan Palace, you can talk to him again and skip that part.
I always wondered why the payout was so low to begin with. It pretty much made the daily quests meaningless unless you wanted the rep.
welp - guess it wasn't a bug
I always wondered why the payout was so low to begin with. It pretty much made the daily quests meaningless unless you wanted the rep.
I know LFR isn't everyone's cup of tea, but it's pretty disappointing to realize that it's the exact same looking gear as what you can get from the assaults. Chasing that gear is what keeps me invested. I thought changing from class to armor type tier gear was supposed to free up the artists to do more diverse or higher quality sets. This whole expansion is such a bummer to me. I still love the game and hope shadowlands is a return to Legion level quality.
I swear Tier sets need to return for Shadowlands and be extremely hyped up
I swear Tier sets need to return for Shadowlands and be extremely hyped up
I'm reserving judgement until I see more of theclass hallcovenant armor sets. I wouldn't mind an armor set you can continually upgrade or something.
Really, anything would be better than how BfA handled raid armor. Because wow! Those are almost universally ugly.
Exactly! If they made a unique set per armor type for assaults/visions, plus unique sets per armor type for the raid, that's still less total than one tier set per class...Yeah, no class sets? Well, okay I guess we will just get a ton of varied sets for each armor type. Hahah, well no, no you won't.
Exactly! If they made a unique set per armor type for assaults/visions, plus unique sets per armor type for the raid, that's still less total than one tier set per class...
Yup, just go on Artstation and look at people making "Warcraft-Inspired" armor. Hell, there was that dude that made class-race specific armor sets, and at least 75% of them were brilliant!I think with losing Azerite Powers AND Artifact Powers there's really no excuse. We didn't get the quality of art that was reasoned with the raid sets they promised so I'd rather have tier sets with bonuses than nothing at all. If your team is so out of art ideas then hire new artists. I hate to be blunt but there's plenty of people who can design things for these classes. And with them constantly inventing and revisiting lore I'm sure they could come up with new or different takes on things we've seen before.
Yup, just go on Artstation and look at people making "Warcraft-Inspired" armor. Hell, there was that dude that made class-race specific armor sets, and at least 75% of them were brilliant!
"Getting rid of tier sets will let us make higher quality, more creative armor sets!" reeked of bullshit from the get-go.
Now I'm imagining Tomb style tiers where we get Heart of Fear/Bastion of Twilight sets remade with extra tentacles on them.That would be sexy as hell to have a corrupted Pandarian set and a corrupted Uldum set.
Now I'm imagining ToS style tiers where we get Heart of Fear/Bastion of Twilight sets remade with extra tentacles on them.
Now I'm imagining Tomb style tiers where we get Heart of Fear/Bastion of Twilight sets remade with extra tentacles on them.
Mogu armor but the only difference is they have a tentacle for a tail
Can't forget the eyeballs.
Just make armor made from eyeballs.
They were being a little cagey about them returning during Blizzcon, and they made a statement later that if they came back it wouldn't be at launch.I'm kind of optimistic: I feel like tier sets would have been in the announcement if they were coming back. I guess anything can happen though. Blizzard might turn the lead up to Shadowlands into a BFA apology tour.
I'm kind of optimistic: I feel like tier sets would have been in the announcement if they were coming back. I guess anything can happen though. Blizzard might turn the lead up to Shadowlands into a BFA apology tour.
Yeah, if they come back in SL I expect them to be in the 2nd raid tier at the earliest.
They were being a little cagey about them returning during Blizzcon, and they made a statement later that if they came back it wouldn't be at launch.
That would be kind of like how it worked in MoP and WoD so... some hope there?
Yeah, if they come back in SL I expect them to be in the 2nd raid tier at the earliest.
I mean, even then, you were getting tier gear, art-wise.yep. An Emerald Nightmare "no tier" raid and then BOOM a Nighthold tier set. Beautiful.
Right, which is why I'm a little curious why they'd say that unless they've already locked in the art for the first raid and realized that they needed to bring tiers back after that somehow.
I don't even know how I'm feeling about Shadowlands at this point. I obviously would love for it to be good but my faith in Blizzard as a company hasn't been improving at all over the past year or so.
Legion was not good at all. People only remember 7.3 legion for some reason. 7.0 and EN were absolute shit, 7.2 was "every week you get quest of kill 8/30/100 demons and like it" and tomb of soakgeras was one of the worst raid ever made.For sure, if Shadowlands ends up being a BFA style fuck up, then I am probably out at that point. They seem to have a dud expansion every other one so the moment we get two in a row is the moment I retire.
Legion was not good at all. People only remember 7.3 legion for some reason. 7.0 and EN were absolute shit, 7.2 was "every week you get quest of kill 8/30/100 demons and like it" and tomb of soakgeras was one of the worst raid ever made.
Legion had good points, unlike bfa tho, like suramar was one of the best content ever. I still wouldnt say legion was a good expansion overall.
Of course anything compared to the massive pile of crap that bfa is looks good lmao.
Legion was not good at all. People only remember 7.3 legion for some reason. 7.0 and EN were absolute shit, 7.2 was "every week you get quest of kill 8/30/100 demons and like it" and tomb of soakgeras was one of the worst raid ever made.
Legion had good points, unlike bfa tho, like suramar was one of the best content ever. I still wouldnt say legion was a good expansion overall.
Of course anything compared to the massive pile of crap that bfa is looks good lmao.
People already forgot how class design was bad before you maxed out your artifacts or when it took 1 month to drop a single legendary and it was sephuz or shitty prydaz.
The rewards were higher on the PTR. They were changed in response to feedback that it's quite a bit of time required to stay on schedule with your cloak (before there was any weekly limit to cloak progress).Wow, glad to hear about the rep and mementos boost for assaults and dailies.
it's always such a head-scratcher for me when numbers/tuning passes happen and the changes are this drastic. Like, wow, someone made a bad prediction right from the start on what an acceptable reward would be in this case. This is a 400% increase for mementos. Lol
I don't even know how I'm feeling about Shadowlands at this point. I obviously would love for it to be good but my faith in Blizzard as a company hasn't been improving at all over the past year or so.
People already forgot how class design was bad before you maxed out your artifacts or when it took 1 month to drop a single legendary and it was sephuz or shitty prydaz.
I really think they did , most people are fine with legiondaries nowdays for some reason. I cant even express my feelings to how fucking awful it felt to drop a legendary and it was the most shit one you could have dropped, and now you're sol for another month before you can compete with people who lucked out.I assure you no one has forgotten about either of those things.
Legion was not good at all. People only remember 7.3 legion for some reason. 7.0 and EN were absolute shit, 7.2 was "every week you get quest of kill 8/30/100 demons and like it" and tomb of soakgeras was one of the worst raid ever made.
Legion had good points, unlike bfa tho, like suramar was one of the best content ever. I still wouldnt say legion was a good expansion overall.
Of course anything compared to the massive pile of crap that bfa is looks good lmao.
Yes, can we please get another MoP-quality expansion? thanks.Thank you for telling me how I feel about one of my favorite expansions of the game. I'm glad you could clear this up for me as it has been bothering me since 7.0.
Let us only rejoice and sing the praises of expansions that ResetERA user Dalik deems good.
I really think they did , most people are fine with legiondaries nowdays for some reason. I cant even express my feelings to how fucking awful it felt to drop a legendary and it was the most shit one you could have dropped, and now you're sol for another month before you can compete with people who lucked out.
Do we also not wanna talk about how you couldnt play your other specs cause of the AP grind? or how awful was playing alts at the start with almost nonexistant catch ups?
The whole binary is what the system was at first? not sure i follow. If you didnt have cloak as retri paladin you had a -10% dps debuff compared to people who had it. What is not but objective truth about this? helm/prydaz/bracers/boots literally had zero dps gain. There's no hyperbole.I mean, I'm sorry you feel that way, but none of it is some objective truth about the game and I specifically disagree with pretty much the entirety of it. Your view on legendaries for example is the exact type of hyperbole that made actual discussion about the system impossible. The whole binary "it's either the best or the worst" paradigm is incredibly stifling to reasonable opinions.
Im not of that school of thought. I wasnt around BC, but story wise at least was trash.Nah. Anything after Burning Crusade was trash or did you miss that memo?
I mean I got Sephuz on a healer before it even procced on dispels. Thank heavens it was a resto shaman and it actually had an interrupt. I remember when they added a socket to every legendary ring and neck to make people want to equip them. I remember when they raised the base ilevel of legendaries by 15 ilevel to make people equip them. I remember them changing how both Prydaz and Sephuz procced so they were more desirable (Prydaz especially was a joke at launch).I really think they did , most people are fine with legiondaries nowdays for some reason. I cant even express my feelings to how fucking awful it felt to drop a legendary and it was the most shit one you could have dropped, and now you're sol for another month before you can compete with people who lucked out.
It was annoying, but 99% of the player base isn't playing at a level where it mattered. I had dogshit legendaries and it didn't stop me from walking over other DPS with the good ones. EN was such an easy raid it didn't really matter, anyway. By the time we were in Nighthold, the legendary drop rate was at a point where you were getting them pretty frequently, and the "bad" legendaries had been buffed to be mostly usable without issue.I really think they did , most people are fine with legiondaries nowdays for some reason. I cant even express my feelings to how fucking awful it felt to drop a legendary and it was the most shit one you could have dropped, and now you're sol for another month before you can compete with people who lucked out.
I mean I got Sephuz on a healer before it even procced on dispels. Thank heavens it was a resto shaman and it actually had an interrupt. I remember when they added a socket to every legendary ring and neck to make people want to equip them. I remember when they raised the base ilevel of legendaries by 15 ilevel to make people equip them. I remember them changing how both Prydaz and Sephuz procced so they were more desirable (Prydaz especially was a joke at launch).
IIRC, all of those changes happened in 5-6 months. That didn't fix everything of course, but that was responsive. It didn't make everything better, but they fixed Legion with those smaller, incremental changes, for the post part. I remember Nighthold being a guild killer because of artifact power. I remember Broken Shore being crap.
I think Legion is a good expansion despite all that. Legion had other parts that worked and were fun. It wasn't perfect. I complained quite a bit about it at the old place and here. But I still think it ended up being good, even if I was still annoyed about situations like the fire mage bracers or the rogue shoulders.