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Anoregon

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That's correct. Weapon DPS is purely a function of ilvl, in the same way that primary stats are.

I'm also fairly confident that all weapons of a particular type have the exact same speed now. Think that changed in either Warlords or Legion.
Yeah, weapon speed has been normalized for a while. So basically ilvl is king, with the only caveat being certain corruptions. Infinite stars is worth like 10 ilvl for example.
 

Magnus

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I found them about the same so far. Did a +1 (Kelsey) on my firs go just now. Wasn't close. But +2 would have been.
I have 3/3 and 1/1 in the tree so far (left side) and had a 474 cloak for that run.
 

Berordn

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I found them about the same so far. Did a +1 (Kelsey) on my firs go just now. Wasn't close. But +2 would have been.
I have 3/3 and 1/1 in the tree so far (left side) and had a 474 cloak for that run.
Kelsey definitely seems to be the easier choice, at least with the firey affix this week.


I think it'll hurt their viewership if they do this, tbh
Their viewership will definitely take a dip at first, but given how easily they can push people to the new platforms in their own launcher, I'm skeptical it's going to be that big a deal. Everyone's trying to erode Twitch's dominance so it's no surprise after so many big names started moving to other platforms, and the impact will probably be negligible in the long term for the big companies.

It's the streamers who face a harder time, since they're going to be more immediately impacted by the events no longer being on their platform.
 

Hixx

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I find it pretty dubious that people will have trouble moving over to youtube...
They tried it with one of the big Counter-Strike leagues. It wasn't as much of a disaster as ESL going exclusive to Facebook but viewerships dropped quite substantially. People, for whatever reason, are incredibly loyal to Twitch.
 

BeepBoop

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They tried it with one of the big Counter-Strike leagues. It wasn't as much of a disaster as ESL going exclusive to Facebook but viewerships dropped quite substantially. People, for whatever reason, are incredibly loyal to Twitch.

If you follow like 10, 20, or whatever amount of people on Twitch, it is easier to just stick to Twitch since you have many other choices that just fill up the time you used to spend watching that particular thing instead of changing to some other site. There is a thing where viewers will just go to someone else on the same platform to fill the void, it is just Twitch is the majority of Live Streaming in terms of # of people and that.

Is anyone going to realistically keep like 4 different streaming platforms open and keep checking between them if things go Live?

I imagine for the people who left Twitch (ninja, shroud, etc), the viewers who moved with them were probably only watching those streamers and nothing really else on Twitch.
 
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lol. The Druid I just did, was an alt that leveled fully through AV from 110 during the anniversary so even now this dude is still wearing 200 ilevel rings and shit. Surprised I was able to actually kill shit.

Edit: Also and maybe it's just me, but does this World Boss seem to have a higher drop rate than normal? I am 7/10 from drops from her, and 2 of them got a drop on both the normal and token roll.
 
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Milo Rambaldi

Milo Rambaldi

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Failed another vision run because of that bouncing bullshit. There's literally no skill involved with something like that and it's also incredibly unfun. I'm so goddamned angry right now.
 

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A ton of level 6 key spam this weekend.

Its kinda crazy to see ilvl 445 gear that can get corruption bonus drop from a chest like that.
 

Jag

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Failed another vision run because of that bouncing bullshit. There's literally no skill involved with something like that and it's also incredibly unfun. I'm so goddamned angry right now.
Yeah, i'm doing the bare minimum on my alts in SW and saving the vessels for next week. Hopefully the affix won't be as punishing.
 

JCizzle

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I don't know why I was thinking of this today, but I wonder what class or spec would make a good ranged plate and melee cloth? Those are the two outliers in terms of armor type representation. Moving something like unholy DK to range would piss off folks just like the survival hunter change. I doubt it's something they'll ever do, but I was having a hard time thinking of good possibilities.
 

Berordn

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I don't know why I was thinking of this today, but I wonder what class or spec would make a good ranged plate and melee cloth? Those are the two outliers in terms of armor type representation. Moving something like unholy DK to range would piss off folks just like the survival hunter change. I doubt it's something they'll ever do, but I was having a hard time thinking of good possibilities.
I've long fantasized about a ranged Paladin spec that used holy magic to deal damage. In the olden days this was almost viable with Holy Spec, but that died pretty fast.

I imagine a blademaster class could make melee cloth a thing? But so many abilities that would go to them are spread across other classes right now so that doesn't seem super likely.
 

JCizzle

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I've long fantasized about a ranged Paladin spec that used holy magic to deal damage. In the olden days this was almost viable with Holy Spec, but that died pretty fast.

I imagine a blademaster class could make melee cloth a thing? But so many abilities that would go to them are spread across other classes right now so that doesn't seem super likely.
OOoo, that's a good call. I could see that being really flashy if they did the effects right.
 

Shahadan

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Lmao I failed my first horrific vision. I thought I could run to the cathedral and shadowmeld but that didn't work, of course. Couldn't kill Alleria as a Disc before sanity reached 0.

Boo. Lesson learned
 

Yunsen

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Lmao I failed my first horrific vision. I thought I could run to the cathedral and shadowmeld but that didn't work, of course. Couldn't kill Alleria as a Disc before sanity reached 0.

Boo. Lesson learned
Swapped my Priest to Shadow so I can solo the Visions. Normally main Holy but I know Disc well too.
 

FLEABttn

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Is anyone going to realistically keep like 4 different streaming platforms open and keep checking between them if things go Live?
is the implication here that people watch OWL because it's simply on and not because they particularly care for it specifically? Because if I like OWL and I know when the games are on and the only thing I have to do it head over to youtube instead of twitch, that's a *real* low bar of stuff I need to do to watch it.
 

BeepBoop

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is the implication here that people watch OWL because it's simply on and not because they particularly care for it specifically? Because if I like OWL and I know when the games are on and the only thing I have to do it head over to youtube instead of twitch, that's a *real* low bar of stuff I need to do to watch it.

Well I imagine most people have a priority of Streamers to watch, maybe OWL is #2 and you only watch it when #1 isn't on, but if #1 and #3 are on Twitch and 1 ends and 3 is on, you are just gonna probably stick to Twitch and not watch OWL since it requires extra effort to go elsewhere

With OWL having home games this Season the times it is on also wont be as easily known because they are being played at local stadium times instead of set times per week
 

Berordn

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I mean I love Khadgar as well and would love for him to come back, but all this kill off Magni talk is some slander dammit.
The other part with Magni (much like the rest of BFA) is the sense that his grand plotline has led us to this. When he popped up again in Legion, with what seemed like a great purpose, it was kind of exciting and there were hints at something interesting going on when he joined us on Argus. But now he just sits around in the chamber and guides us into doing things that ultimately further N'Zoth's plans until MOTHER catches a lucky break and fixes everything.

He's kinda... worthless? Like, if you removed him from BFA and just had it be the Cenarion Circle and Earthen Ring trying to fix everything, nothing would change.
 
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Milo Rambaldi

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The other part with Magni (much like the rest of BFA) is the sense that his grand plotline has led us to this. When he popped up again in Legion, with what seemed like a great purpose, it was kind of exciting and there were hints at something interesting going on when he joined us on Argus. But now he just sits around in the chamber and guides us into doing things that ultimately further N'Zoth's plans until MOTHER catches a lucky break and fixes everything.

He's kinda... worthless? Like, if you removed him from BFA and just had it be the Cenarion Circle and Earthen Ring trying to fix everything, nothing would change.
Exactly this. And you can kinda feel that Blizzard felt the same way to an extent by making him accompany you in the new scenarios and being pretty strong (as he probably should be considering) but then he just stops again. He's barely present - and he failed his mission IMO - there's still a giant sword STUCK IN THE PLANET
 
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Hrmm, maybe he isn't annoying to me because I play with the sound off at all times. Anyway, I have always liked Magni and I hope they continue to use him in some way.
 

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So far the new bosses seem pretty cool. Got to 5/12 heroic, and could've been 6 as we got the dog boss down pretty close but ran out of time.

I got to 38 corruption after resistances and the eye/circle zone you need to run out gets huge at that level compared to when you're at 20 haha.

Everything else about this patch has been kinda disappointing so far.
 

Anoregon

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I hope Lor'themar and Thallysra are totally absent for all of Shadowlands, then show up at the very end totally unaware of what's been going on cuz they've been fucking the whole time.