Got gold on all the races on Waking Shores. I love dragon riding. They better keep this feature for future expacs.
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World of Warcraft: Dragonflight |OT| House of the Dracthyr
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Fwiw I've been a healer my entire WoW career, and I took off most of Shadowlands so I'm a little rusty, but Evoker is by far the most I've struggled to pick up a healer in any MMO. I even clicked with original AST in FFXIV within a few hours, but Evoker is really unique and weird in fun ways, but also difficult ways. I consider myself a damn good healer too, but jeez.
So I don't think it's fully on you being new to healer, Evoker healing is especially difficult and complex.
I'm enjoying Dragonflight so far. I'm almost to 70 and working my way through the 3rd questing zone
Yeah, I was getting a better feel for it after a few more dungeons but it's still tricky.
The Tuskarr dungeon is a nightmare! The disease effects or whatever they are are just… and all the fears and stuff. Ugh. I know it's like day 3 so it'll get smoother over as people learn mechanics but still, not a good feeling place to heal, haha.
First time I'm seeing this bug iirc. Can walk around and still see people doing their thing, but can't interact with anything, or log out. Had to kill the game.
Lasted a good 15 minutes while I was here thinking "it's going to doisconnect me sooner or later", well nah
Edit : oh "character already exists" reminds me of a nightmare a few years back
Lasted a good 15 minutes while I was here thinking "it's going to doisconnect me sooner or later", well nah
Edit : oh "character already exists" reminds me of a nightmare a few years back
You mean when the camera rotates like 30 degrees left or right direction like as if it's looking/pointing at something else? That's happening to me too. I think the last time I had this was in BfA, didn't have it at all in Shadowlands, now again in Dragonflight
I think I very much am not a fan of just how fast I managed to hit 70 before even really getting into Azurespan. My natural impulse was to fly off to the main hub city and start running dungeons and crafting and I still haven't remotely finished Azurespan.
If I can say this much about Shadowlands, I really enjoyed the campaign pace going from covenant to covenant.
That aside, the more I'm digging into the new crafting changes the more intimated I am by it. It is exciting however so I'm looking forward to getting a handle of it.
If I can say this much about Shadowlands, I really enjoyed the campaign pace going from covenant to covenant.
That aside, the more I'm digging into the new crafting changes the more intimated I am by it. It is exciting however so I'm looking forward to getting a handle of it.
If i were blizz I'd just test in PTR enabling every flying mount to the dragonriding system (with missing animations), enable it in every continent and remove legacy flying. And see what happens. If it goes well, then maybe they can justify giving more specific animations to different mount skeletons a couple patches down the line or 11.0
No, with crafting orders you can request a leatherworker to craft something for you even if it's bind on pickup. For public orders (like an auction house, anyone can do it for you) you need to supply all the materials first, for private (friends, specific players and guild only) you can supply as little as you want and as long as the leatherworker has other materials they can make the item for you. You then pick it up from the crafting order menu.
Yeah, that was the first dungeon me and my pals ran while we were levelling. Think we wiped 3 times before the first boss just from the disease debuff, our healer was a druid so they had no way to stop it. Shamefully, it wasn't until the 3rd wipe that I remembered my Dark Iron Dwarf racial ability removes disease lol.
Thankfully it should get easier once people learn which mobs to prioritise and what not to pull on top of things (looking at you big fear causing dude). Also apparently once people get 25 Dragon Isles alchemy, they can use the cauldrons that are all over the place to give everyone a remove disease button.
This is making me really tempted to jump in XD
What's the deal with Evoker healing then? If they're trickier to heal with, are they also easier to simultaneously DPS with to make up for that? Or does it seem more like a balance issue?
I adore healing in MMOs. Typically play resto druid when I dip into WoW, but ESO is my primary MMO these days since it gives you a lot of freedom in how you build your playstyles, and I gravitate towards healer/buffer/DPS hybrids there for really fast dungeon runs. Wondering if Evoker might scratch that itch too.
I haven't played yet, but isn't one of the reasons the new flight works so well because the dragon Isles are specifically designed for it? Not sure how enjoyable it would be in older zones, like flying across the barrens. Do Evokers still get to use the new flight mechanics in old zones?
It's also worth noting Blizz only copied GW2's griffon flight model for Dragonflight. GW2 also has a completely different (and equally unique) flight model for dragon mounts. And multiple different ground mount movement models. If Blizz really are learning from GW2 then they won't simply slap their new flight model on everything. They'll be more likely to introduce new mechanics/animations for other mounts.
I'm really glad to see so many people asking for an old world revamp like Cata 2.0 too, but I've been expecting that for years now and gave up hope when Shadowlands was announced of it ever happening =( There were so many opportunities, and I feel like BfA going back to that Horde/Alliance focus was the best time, but they opted for new islands yet again. Maybe it will happen. They have a lot of high quality assets for it that could be used (Arathi Highlands got entirely modern assets for a BfA PVP zone, but were never applied to the main zone for example).
The PvP situation for Horde is pretty dire at the moment. Alliance has less active PvPers so they're getting the good "your faction needs more soldiers" bonus honor for queueing for BGs. As a result, they're accumulating Honor way faster and decking themselves out in full PvP gear, which gets boosted to ilvl 411 in BGs.
I spent 6~ hours PvPing nonstop yesterday to grind out my PvP set. In that time I won two BGs. The rest were one-sided steamrolls. For a little context, I, a squishy caster, would have 330k~ HP unbuffed in a battleground. I would load in and take a look at my teammates, and virtually all of them have under 200k. Naturally, the geared Alliance would kill them in roughly three GCDs.
I spent 6~ hours PvPing nonstop yesterday to grind out my PvP set. In that time I won two BGs. The rest were one-sided steamrolls. For a little context, I, a squishy caster, would have 330k~ HP unbuffed in a battleground. I would load in and take a look at my teammates, and virtually all of them have under 200k. Naturally, the geared Alliance would kill them in roughly three GCDs.
Question: it's been a very, very long time since playing WoW and I randomly decided to jump in. Does this game not have level sync for dungeons like FFXIV does?
I queued up as a healer on my holy priest, and after a few minutes it asks me if I want to look outside my current expansion because it's taking a long time. I'm level 30 and get put into a level 60 BFA dungeon. We survived about half of it fine until a HUGE pull where DPS grabbed most of a room, and then the tank berated me and left because I was level 30.
I guess I'm just confused why the game dropped me in there if I wasn't supposed to be there yet! So much to relearn after years oF FFXIV.
I queued up as a healer on my holy priest, and after a few minutes it asks me if I want to look outside my current expansion because it's taking a long time. I'm level 30 and get put into a level 60 BFA dungeon. We survived about half of it fine until a HUGE pull where DPS grabbed most of a room, and then the tank berated me and left because I was level 30.
I guess I'm just confused why the game dropped me in there if I wasn't supposed to be there yet! So much to relearn after years oF FFXIV.
Level sync for dungeons in WoW is a bit different compared to FFXIV. Instead of it being "Everyone is put down to level 20 for this level 20 dungeon," everyone stays at their current level but the enemies dynamically change their level to match them. So you may group with a level 50 who is fighting level 50 mobs and a level 15 who's fighting level 15s simultaneously. This can result in some trouble when the healer is a low level and doesn't have much of their toolkit.
That said, lower level players are weighted to do a lot more damage and healing than higher level ones while in level synced dungeons, so it kinda evens out.
Also, your queue times took forever because everyone's on their main characters progressing in the newly expansion content.
NO. There is no reason to remove an ability that many people like and rely on. I like Dragonriding but it is not a 1 to 1 substitute for traditional flying by any means. And there is no reason to deprive people of an aspect of the game they like. Extend Dragonriding to as much of the world as is possible, but don't ruin other peoples fun.
Dragonriding for transporting yourself is fun...but man is it weirdly fun to land dramatically and kill any critters who happen to be nearby
100% agree with this. We need dragonriding in every zone but not change my other mounts/systems
They don't need to remove old flight. They just need to never enable it again going forward. This way they can keep the focus on new shit and out with the old shit. Time to move on. No one's fun is being removed by killing off the old flight, that's some weird baby attachment. It's time to embrace the new!
This and maybe design areas with it in mind in future expansions. Keep extending the system and make it evergreen. It should be the default mount until proper flight is unlocked in every expansion. It promotes exploration and you still get to "fly". Better than being grounded for months in end.
You don't speak for everybody. It's important to remember that everybody has a different World of Warcraft experience. Some people are world firsters. Some people push mythic 20's. Some never enter instance, and like running around in the world. And some don't like having to be "turned on" when flying from place to place. Making flying require interaction and skill gameifies a portion of the game that was valued downtime for some people.
I suspect that dragonriding will be the default from now on. But there is no need to ban normal flying forever in new expansions. Dragonriding already has a speed advantage that will make it the choice of most.
I think you guys missed the part of "PTR" in my post ;). Disabling legacy flying just to test it, then later decide what to do and how if dragonriding works fine in older content and/or if people miss legacy flying and learn about what people like and hate about dragonriding and legacy flying.
I think I'd be down for legacy to be removed though, but I'd have to try it and see if I'd actually miss it. Or at the very least give option to use mounts as legacy or dragonriding as a setting or something, that should work.
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I'm no lore expert, but I think that there is no way to experience all of the story in one playthrough. At least when you want to also gain levels.
There is an NPC named "Chromie" and you can talk to her to select an addon you want to level in. Then you can experience the story of this specific addon until you reach the current level for Dragonflight.
The workaround is, that you can set your character to not gain any XP, so you activate this at lvl 58 and then you can switch to different addons at Chromie. But once you hit lvl 60 (the start of Dragonflight), you have no longer access to timewalking. You either make a new character for each old expansion or stop the XP gain for one char.
I honestly find it really hard to break down why I find it so difficult. They have a lot of setup and combos. You can apply 'echo' to people which means the next heal you cast will get duplicated onto that person. This allows you to do some really interesting stuff with doubling up a HoT spell on a tank, or how you spread out your healing to the group, but it pulls from a limited resource pool called "essence". I find those pretty hard to manage the economy of so far.
There's also issues with the fact that they don't really have a lot of sustained healing. Your main generic heal is really weak and takes a long time to cast, it's nearly worthless.
I find myself in a lot of situations where i'm not sure of the next step yet. I used my essence, people are still taking damage, my healing breath is already down... so now what? Usually the answer is one of my huge CDs, but they have super short range so i then have to figure out how to reposition myself. Range and positioning is a factor in a way it's never been for other healers, even Paladins aren't this restricted.
So it's a ton of planning and knowing fights, with your ability to pivot and reacting sometimes being very limited if you planned poorly.
It's a fascinating puzzle. If you want to check out how complicated some of their healing stuff gets, look at some of the sections in here: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/preservation-evoker-pve-healing-rotation-cooldowns-abilities
especially around abilities like Temporal Anomaly.
I am fishing for the first time in over a decade probably. What.
Also, I kind of wish I would of updated my addons before I decided to dive back in, because there are some things I'm sorely missing, but can't be assed to mess with right now while I'm leveling.
Also, I kind of wish I would of updated my addons before I decided to dive back in, because there are some things I'm sorely missing, but can't be assed to mess with right now while I'm leveling.
All this being in Dragon Isles is making me want to level my Evoker to 70 before I had intended.
Also, regarding story/narrative: I'm surprised that there are some fairly major groups/factions that are basically totally ignored in the main campaign but are treated as pretty important. Like the Sundered Flame (the Dracthyr faction who said "fuck these dragon assholes" at the end of the starter zone instead of joining the H/A) and the black dragonkin who are hostile/neutral to Wrathion and Sabellian due to having been manipulated by the Twilights Hammer. I'm sure there are more. On the one hand it's cool for the sidequest stuff to have meaningful story content, but on the other you'd think they would at least introduce some of these groups in the main narrative.
Also, regarding story/narrative: I'm surprised that there are some fairly major groups/factions that are basically totally ignored in the main campaign but are treated as pretty important. Like the Sundered Flame (the Dracthyr faction who said "fuck these dragon assholes" at the end of the starter zone instead of joining the H/A) and the black dragonkin who are hostile/neutral to Wrathion and Sabellian due to having been manipulated by the Twilights Hammer. I'm sure there are more. On the one hand it's cool for the sidequest stuff to have meaningful story content, but on the other you'd think they would at least introduce some of these groups in the main narrative.
I absolutely adore the music and just questing / leveling so far. My only issue is I am almost 65 on my mage and I haven't even started the second zone.
Got caught up doing my professions, getting glyphs and doing some side quests.
Not that it matters I will do all the zones to completion anyway.
Got caught up doing my professions, getting glyphs and doing some side quests.
Not that it matters I will do all the zones to completion anyway.
You should download the CurseForge application, super duper easy to update and download addons, literally 1 button to press and then /reload while in-game.
I disagree. Ban it from here on out. Time to move on. If people want downtime, then they can just stop playing. Time to embrace new play patterns. Flying should absolutely require interaction and since travel is a big part of world and even dungeon design, it's time to cut the excess and focus on the core.
Those rares are World Quests now, you join them as soon as you approach them.
I get why profession specializations are "permanent" right now, but is it always going to stay that way? I've surely boned myself already, not really understanding what everything does. So, not being able to refund my points is causing a little bit of a headache for me.
Dragonriding feels really great once you get all the glyphs and complete the talent tree. It kind of makes the world seem very small though - idk if it's that or the landmass itself, but this feels like the smallest expansion in terms of area size we've gotten, and SL was already bad on that front.
Ah, gotcha! Don't really care about gaining levels really, I just want to experience the whole thing. Didn't know you could lock XP gain, that's good. I'll likely do that then, thanks!!
In terms of land mass, The Dragon Isles is the second biggest continent, only behind Northrend.
ive just been doing whatever quests i come across and im 64 already and havent even finished in the first zone lol.
Leveling is much too fast. I don't really understand why they decided to scale XP that way but here we are.
Same, just hit 65.
Although I don't care about my level if everything is just going to scale. Allows me to care more about my professions and achievements and exploration than just grinding levels.
Pretty sure thats just how it is now, I always try to start a convo in general, its tougher these days.
The evenings always more popping tho.
I think its just a Retail thing, but I did notice with this expansion a bigger incentive to group up and chat!
